On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:58:10 Tim Newsom wrote:
> Or how about this... Cases from recycled materials..
>
> Neo1973.. Free your phone, open your horizons, save the world...
> Good for you, great for the environment.
Swiss PET recycling organization currently has a campaign like that: "Don't
th
That's not as far as it goes, either -- if the software required to set up
and maintain a geolocation database is free and open source, then anybody
who does not trust the central provider can set up a dedicated machine with
any desired level of security and privacy measures taken.
There are some
On 7/4/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You seem to imply that there is a technical infeasibility that cannot be
overcome. If the public point database were segregated by a UNIX-style
permissions system and connected to via SSH, wouldn't it be just about as
safe as any public file server
I'd also be interested in some 3d-scans of the Neo's cover, because I want a
stainless-steel cover :)
There are a lot of people with the equippment to build covers, but less with
3d scanners.
2007/7/3, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 9:50, Michael Sersen wrote:
> About custo
You seem to imply that there is a technical infeasibility that cannot be
overcome. If the public point database were segregated by a UNIX-style
permissions system and connected to via SSH, wouldn't it be just about as
safe as any public file server or database? Files that are "shared" can be
acces
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:03:47 adrian cockcroft wrote:
> I've been designing cases for the homebrew mobile club, posting the design
> files on the wiki and producing them on a 3D printer.
>
> http://www.hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=Portrait_oriented_case
>
> I can get these individually made
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 17:03:13 Attila Csipa wrote:
> Neo1973, like, without case/microSD/power adapter/battery/etc (possibly
> even without display), just the finished PCB with components ?
I think Sean is actively working towards that goal. At least he seemed to like
that idea very much. Migh
On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OpenMoko was offered a "custom" Sponsorship which includes a booth but not
a speaking opportunity. However, we are free to organize a BoF. I presume
there is interest in such?
If so, I'll go ahead and schedule one.
I'll go ahead and thr
yea that would be great, then we can have a section on the wiki where there
would be alot of countries and the people in each country can then discuss
about the dates and make an agreement
On 7/3/07, Thomas Gstädtner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,
before some days Hans van der Merwe asked,
Nick Johnson wrote:
> Why not just use NMEA sentences directly? They're simple to read, and
> more versatile.
Sure. Just wanted to skip the math and modularize the thing.
- Werner
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On 7/4/07, Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The "current location" interface should probably be generic, e.g.,
reading messages from a Unix domain
socket. We can then feed it with fake test data and/or slap on a
converter from NMEA.
Why not just use NMEA sentences directly? They'r
Hi all,
I was wondering of any of the Gtk gurus hanging out here could do
me a little favour. I have this idea that's haunting me in my
sleep, but I don't have the time to implement it. It should be
really easy to do, though.
The idea is to have a GPS tracker/mapper that uses a very simple
GUI wi
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Ryan Prior wrote:
On 7/3/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>
> Hey! I just noticed that we are listed on the conference homepage!
> http://www.ubuntulive.com/ Hopefully this will increase awarenes
I'm not familiar with spreadshirt's stuff, but I know that some of the
shirts on cafepress are done with a direct dye process(dye goes directly
into the fabric)... which means no big plasticy sticky thing on the shirt(I
really hate that stuff). If spreadshirts can give the same thing, I don't
rea
Note...
I did ask about permission and we were told to wait on discussing with
official personel till phase 2 of the phone. So scanning the actual
case and building a knockoff would (in my opinion and until I am
corrected by FIC / Sean or other person with some authority) be a
violation of t
Hi,
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:46:23 -0700
"Brad Pitcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the status on the availability of openmoko t-shirts in the
> US? I checked on cafepress and spreadshirt.com and I couldn't find
> anything. I'd really like one of those shirts to wear at Ubuntu
> Live/OSCON
Calendar and contact sync will be by SyncML so we don't need to write desktop
apps for sync. The phone appears as a USB network device among other things,
so should be able to use the computer's network connection if everything's
configured correctly. There might be a case for a helper app to do
On 7/4/07, Niels L. Ellegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That sounds like great fun. Do you plan to introduce a central server
and use a critical radius of a kilometer, or do you want to use
wifi. I guess that wifi requires a fairly large userbase. Is it
possible to design a system that worked wi
On 7/3/07, Urivan Saaib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I noticed the freebase.com website requires invitation, do you have access
to it? Also, the license of the service is free for non-commercial only, do
you have any considerations in this topic? How will this affect the
adoption of new development
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:56, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
Also.. to follow up on what Adrian recently said.. The tech shop also
has a CNC milling machine. I'm no expert, but I believe that the idea
is that you put a CAD file in one side and take out a completed part
out the other. So... if you hav
On 7/3/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
>
> Hey! I just noticed that we are listed on the conference homepage!
> http://www.ubuntulive.com/ Hopefully this will increase awareness and
> interest.
That probably means that FIC
Is it legal to sell these cases? The design may be based in no small
part on work done by FIC, who will not be impressed by us stamping on
their IP. We don't want to take the piss - they are helping us a lot.
Making a few one-offs for ourselves, with no profit is ok, but as soon
as we start marke
What's the status on the availability of openmoko t-shirts in the US? I
checked on cafepress and spreadshirt.com and I couldn't find anything. I'd
really like one of those shirts to wear at Ubuntu Live/OSCON.
Thanks,
Brad
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A company called bugLabs is working on this concept.
http://www.buglabs.net/
They have not publicly announced the details of their product, but the
idea of modular (probably open source) pocket consumer electronics
seems to be their focus.
Hank
On 7/3/07, Jonas Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey! I just noticed that we are listed on the conference homepage!
http://www.ubuntulive.com/ Hopefully this will increase awareness and
interest.
That probably means that FIC / OpenMoko paid Canonical / Ubuntu a bunch of
money -- evide
Yes, we are at booth #30, and the exhibit hall is free.
Note online registration closes July 21, 2007, after which you may have to
pay. According to the conference website, The onsite registration fee is an
additional $100 to the Standard Price. I'm not clear whether this includes the
exhibit hal
So... the question is...
a) is it possible to convince Nathan or Gordon to sell these
things through their websites for $65 - $147?
I can sell it through my website: http://www.handheld-linux.com
although I currently focus on the European markets only (due to tax
and duty complexity).
But there's another way to think about this...
I think if you ran these numbers past a business person in the states
they would have all sorts of problems. You're talking about a fair
amount of investment for "not all that much" return. I mean if we
knew the Neo was going to sell as many un
Yup. And as Tim points out, if the case only lasts a year, recycle it
and get a new one.
On Jul 3, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Al Johnson wrote:
If you're exposing your phone to that much UV you'll probably have
problems
with other components before the case. PET transparent enough to UV
that it's
You're going to be in the exhibit hall, right? So we can come for free?
-Brad
On 7/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Tim Newsom wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:24, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> Dear Community,
>>
>> Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a
Also.. to follow up on what Adrian recently said.. The tech shop also
has a CNC milling machine. I'm no expert, but I believe that the idea
is that you put a CAD file in one side and take out a completed part
out the other. So... if you have the CAD files for a case, you could
feed them int
On 7/3/07, Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you're going to be at the O'reilly Open Source Conference in
Portland, show up for the OpenMoko BoF session on Thursday night. Jon
Philips has said he will bring his phone and hacker toolbox, so you can
lay hands on the real thing.
http
Just to close this thread, here's the link to info about the spot that
Mr. Bergstrom reserved:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/view/e_sess/14810
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On 7/3/07, Uncle Kridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Spots are already filling up fast:
> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/58/b
If you're exposing your phone to that much UV you'll probably have problems
with other components before the case. PET transparent enough to UV that it's
the bottle of choice for solar water disinfection.
http://www.sodis.ch/Text2002/T-Howdoesitwork.htm
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:48, Matthew S.
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:07, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
Oh... but doesn't PETN have some issues with long-term durability when
exposed to UV?
On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some
other clear plastics.
True en
Hi,
I don't think your idea is that bad at all, but it doesn't look like
something that's possible. OpenMoko wants all software on the phone to
be open-source, thus no ad-ware lock-in is possible. It's reversible.
Plus, the phone won't be any cheaper because of this reversibility.
But that's jus
If you're going to be at the O'reilly Open Source Conference in
Portland, show up for the OpenMoko BoF session on Thursday night. Jon
Philips has said he will bring his phone and hacker toolbox, so you can
lay hands on the real thing.
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/view/e_sess/1
I would be very interested in a tamper-proof case with separate
branding. For phones given to low-wage employees and/or teenagers, this
is a requirement (tamper proof meaning seals would have to be broken to
open the case). Etching on the back of the case would include
reward/delivery instruc
Okay... this topic has been discussed to death, here and elsewhere.
Let me recap by saying:
a. A constellation of cooperating devices is bad because you have to
make each device smart enough to talk to each other device, and know
what it's supposed to do. And as Fabien points out, testing
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Tim Newsom wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:24, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community,
Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live
(http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll be
demoing and talking about both the platform and the
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community,
Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live
(http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll be
demoing and talking about both the platform and the Neo. If you're in
town, please stop by!
Thanks
Oh... but doesn't PETN have some issues with long-term durability
when exposed to UV?
On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as
some
other clear plastics.
True enough, and i stand corrected. Their flexibility may
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:24, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community,
Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live
(http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll be
demoing and talking about both the platform and the Neo. If you're in
town, please stop by!
Th
Or how about this... Cases from recycled materials..
Neo1973.. Free your phone, open your horizons, save the world...
Good for you, great for the environment.
--Tim
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> Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some
> other clear plastics.
True enough, and i stand corrected. Their flexibility may even be a benefit --
i drop my current phone often enough and it survives; i would hope for
something similar on my Neo when I get it. May
That's not necessarily true.. Look at plastic bottles.
Clear soda bottles are fairly strong and not nearly as brittle as some
other clear plastics. Plus, that plastic is useful as injection
material.
Plus, if it were cheap enough to get new cases, most people would not
care if they dropped o
There are several types of clear plastic which could be used to fulfill
this idea.. Both as plastic injection and liquid casting material.
--Tim
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 9:50, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Case modding for phones, cool.
Maybe we sho
Dear Community,
Michael Shiloh has volunteered to setup a booth at Ubuntu Live
(http://www.ubuntulive.com) July 22 to 24 in Portland, Oregon. He'll be
demoing and talking about both the platform and the Neo. If you're in
town, please stop by!
Thanks so much for the help Michael!
-Sean
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 9:50, Michael Sersen wrote:
About custom case design for the Neo and beyond; I am very interested
in this idea. I have a cnc router at my disposal and can make custom
parts from materials such as Corian and exotic hardwoods and some soft
metals. I'd love to see some spec's,
2 points:
1.) Aluminium would be quite cool. I would like to have such a case, too.
But the problem is, that the gsm radiowaves are not able to pass the
aluminium. Probably that's the same with the GPS and the W-LAN? I don't
know. There is mobile phone made by Porsche and - I think - Sagem. It is
I've been designing cases for the homebrew mobile club, posting the design
files on the wiki and producing them on a 3D printer.
http://www.hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=Portrait_oriented_case
I can get these individually made for $40 or so each at
http://www.techshop.ws
a custom case for th
2007/7/3, cedric cellier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
-[ Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:44:10PM +0200, Foucault de Bonneval ]
> If yes, does some of you living in Paris would like to share the
shipping
> cost ?
Yes Monsieur !
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> Maybe we should have like transparent ("see-through") casing.
Ah, but transparent plastic is always more brittle than coloured plastics... I
would hate my Neo cracking as easily as a CD case...
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 11:35:57 Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL P
Hello,
before some days Hans van der Merwe asked, if it is possible to do group
purchases (in South Africa).
Unfortunately he got no answer, so I'd like to ask again.
I'm from germany and I think there are many people here who like to buy a
GTA01 device.
If everyone orders a single device it are
-[ Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:44:10PM +0200, Foucault de Bonneval ]
> If yes, does some of you living in Paris would like to share the shipping
> cost ?
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Hi,
On 7/3/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Case modding for phones, cool.
Maybe we should have like transparent ("see-through") casing. Why do
we need closed cases for open hardware and software?
SK
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What if FIC sponsored a community ZPrinted ? Just upload your CAD
files to get your homebrew case, together sent with electronics kit.
http://www.zcorp.com/
Other resources:
http://www.redeyerpm.com/Default.aspx
http://www.absprototypes.net
There are even online PCB assembling services nowadays
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 8:59, no_use wrote:
these are exactly the reactions i got from my friends.. specially as
the
mainbord seems rectangular, i wouldn't like to see it with this rounded
top and bottom..
..and all i want is 3G.. :(
So add case design ideas to the wiki where previously noted.
I
Yup,
I'd be glad to :)
Cheers,
FLorent
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If you want, say, phone, music and camera capabilities:
- either you have plenty of pockets, then you buy a proper camera, a proper
phone and a proper mp3 player
- or you don't want to carry an extra 2kg in your pants, then you buy an
all-in-one device; then compactness is a must.
For many featur
About custom case design for the Neo and beyond; I am very interested
in this idea. I have a cnc router at my disposal and can make custom
parts from materials such as Corian and exotic hardwoods and some soft
metals. I'd love to see some spec's, maybe .dwg's or .dxf files of
the current case,
Hello Openmokogeeks,
will it be possible for FIC to group some GTA01 shipping ?
If yes, does some of you living in Paris would like to share the shipping cost ?
Thanks to all and for everything, you are doing great job !!!
Regards,
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Hans van der Merwe schrieb:
> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 16:52 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote:
>
> Some of the guys here at work (actually most of them) seem to hate the
> rounded sides/corners of the phone - any plans maybe on making it
> rectangular?
>
>
> ps. Im an engineer - I dont care what it look
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 16:52 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote:
> First they wil lthink that it's a rip-off of the iPod customisation.
> Then they will think that it's not useful, not functional, only
> thrown-away money.
> Then they will see how cool it looks at their buddy's neo, and will
> buy one for
cool idea! I want to have one with the GNU logo on the back. :)
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Al Johnson writes:
>I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by most
>distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint than
>dpkg/apt or rpm/yum. There are several GUI frontends to this, but GPE-Package
>is probably a good starting point as it uses GTK
complete compatibility would be awesome! the ajax apps are not really cool
for my opinion, but better than nothing. ;) I would like to see the faces of
all the apple fanboys out there, when they hear that we can use their
apps.^^
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On Tue, July 3, 2007 2:33 pm, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
> On a related note I think that Slashdot once had a story about a
> (bluetooth based??) Japanese dating gadget that worked in a similar
> fashion. They had to buy the gadget, encode their preferences, and
> then wait for the unexpected buzz
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 16:43, Florent THIERY wrote:
> over http tunnel or wifi/bluetooth direct home connection) on an
> NSLU2/WL-500G like companion device.
Apropos NSLU2, some time ago I made a couple of industrial-style data
collecting NSLU2-s which have usb Wifi and/or a GM862 gsm/gprs modul
Also spracht Hans van der Merwe (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:33:04 +0200):
> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:53 +, Lalo Martins wrote:
>> ... ipkg is already installed on the moko image,
>> and comes pre-configured to download packages from the net (but the
>> repository is still empty, of course).
>
> Ah,
Case modding for phones, cool. You could have one machined out of
aluminum, and as long as the FIC hardware doesn't change too much over
the years, you could keep updating it with the latest boards. Assuming
that you could order the boards from FIC without the case, or are
willing to buy and
First they wil lthink that it's a rip-off of the iPod customisation.
Then they will think that it's not useful, not functional, only thrown-away
money.
Then they will see how cool it looks at their buddy's neo, and will buy one
for themselves ;)
On 7/3/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Quite self-explanatory:
http://www.rev2.org/2007/07/02/top-25-web-apps-for-the-iphone/
I'm not saying "we have to do the same", but if we manage complete
compatibility... (which should be possible as soon as we have a
functional gdk webkit port -- which is almost there).
An interesting aspect fo
I have been thinking a little more about this and I struck upon an
idea... What if you could buy a custom case with a custom message on
it.
I am not talking about painted messages but letters and shapes cast into
the plastic shell.
Raised, sunk, custom fonts etc.
Naturally we can't just repl
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:53 +, Lalo Martins wrote:
> Also spracht Al Johnson (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:23:56 +0100):
> > I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by
> > most distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint
> > than dpkg/apt or rpm/yum.
>
Also spracht Al Johnson (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:23:56 +0100):
> I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by
> most distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint
> than dpkg/apt or rpm/yum.
I was going to say that. ipkg is already installed on the moko i
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 4:01, Robin Paulson wrote:
excuse my ignorance, but do you mean a 3d scanner as in a device for
measuring a 3d object?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_scanner
if you do, and have a Neo, that would be awesome. any chance of using
it to produce an electronic model of the case
Hey.
I was also thinking about some
usb-interfacing-docking-station-sort-of-thing. Since I am a bit into
woodcarving, i was thinking about making som sort of "wooden outer envelope"
which interfaces through usb, has an incorporated usb-hub, some sort of
d-pad and maybe other functionalities (like
"Nick Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The other idea for a 'killer mobile gps app' that occurred to me is
> some sort of dynamic-flash-mob system, where you can express
> interest in various activities, and it'll detect whenever a
> 'critical mass' of people for a given activity are close e
I would definitely be interested in a 'gaming' case for the neo - it
opens up the possibility of having emulated games on the it, which
would be huge.
Thanks.
Richard
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:40:50 +0100
Urivan Saaib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> I was thinking of something ala DNS, where the application can
> discover pieces of metadata associated to real-world items (you name
> it
I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by most
distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint than
dpkg/apt or rpm/yum. There are several GUI frontends to this, but GPE-Package
is probably a good starting point as it uses GTK+ already.
http://gpe.
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Dylan McCall wrote:
There is another aspect.
Privacy.
For example, I might be happy to be visible to other phone users in
50-100m, and my friends.
I certainly do not want to be locatable by a random person over the
internet.
This does imply some sort of server, to which I upload my position,
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Will phase 1 be useful to normal users - like my wife?
Is there a reason for her to fork out $300 to get a phone that functions
just as good as her current SonyEricsson T360? (obviously excluding all
the fancy stuff that is possible, but not yet implemented)
The basic a
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 11:49 +0100, Urivan Saaib wrote:
> Hans,
>
> Debian ? Ubuntu? Click N Run? :) That of course is a 'commercial' venue.
> Other than that, I guess an apt-get/yum repository can make it.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Urivan Flores-Saaib
>
> ==Original message text===
Nick,
I noticed the freebase.com website requires invitation, do you have access
to it? Also, the license of the service is free for non-commercial only, do
you have any considerations in this topic? How will this affect the
adoption of new developments?
Also, custom metadata repositories and rep
On 7/3/07, Urivan Saaib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nick,
I was thinking of something ala DNS, where the application can discover
pieces of metadata associated to real-world items (you name it) categorized
in a standard an open way. Users could add/edit/remove their own choices to
customize what
Hans,
Debian ? Ubuntu? Click N Run? :) That of course is a 'commercial' venue.
Other than that, I guess an apt-get/yum repository can make it.
Regards,
-Urivan Flores-Saaib
==Original message text===
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:37:14 +0100 Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Is there
Nick,
I was thinking of something ala DNS, where the application can discover
pieces of metadata associated to real-world items (you name it) categorized
in a standard an open way. Users could add/edit/remove their own choices to
customize what they want from their devices (getting closer to/get
Is there a project (or plans for one) to simplify adding and removing
apps to the Moko?
Users will want to download and install apps - from official repos (and
obviously 3rd party)
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Will phase 1 be useful to normal users - like my wife?
Is there a reason for her to fork out $300 to get a phone that functions
just as good as her current SonyEricsson T360? (obviously excluding all
the fancy stuff that is possible, but not yet implemented)
The basic apps on the wiki is very bas
On 7/3/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a 3d scanner that I am planning to employ for building models if
no one gets to it before I do.
I would be interested in finding out which formats people think should
be used for the models.. Also, assuming I can get things together what
is
Jonas Meyer wrote:
> Instead of monolithic do-everything
> devices, create many single purpose devices that do their jobs very
> well, and can be chained together.
I've been thinking about the same thing. With the recent arrival of
USB-connected monitors (powered by DisplayLink chips) and wireless
On 7/3/07, Mathias Rüdiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No excuses left Nick. Seems that you have to write a wefi clone :)
Looks like it. ;)
Actually, I was thinking something more OpenMoko specific - a sort of
enhanced PIM that lets you store locations and contacts (and contacts
with locations)
No excuses left Nick. Seems that you have to write a wefi clone :)
Mathias
Mikko Rauhala schrieb:
ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:31 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti:
NZ has GPRS, but my understanding was that the AGPS requires the
network to explicitly support it to get the assist data - that's
certainl
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 10:31, Jonas Meyer wrote:
> Disadvantages:
You forgot the most important disadvantage: bulk. It's not uncommon in modern
devices for the connectors (especially if they need to be good for thousands
of insertions) to be a major problem in layout design because of the space
Quoting Jonas Meyer on 07/03/2007 08:31 AM UTC:
> The typical cell phone (including the Neo) is built upon the idea of
> putting as much functionality as possible into one device. And
> manufacturers have gotten very good at this. What if one took the UNIX
> approach to hardware development. Ins
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:31:03 -0400
Jonas Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just recently got my first bluetooth headset. This is only relevant
> because it got me thinking.
>
> The typical cell phone (including the Neo) is built upon the idea of
> putting as much functionality as possible int
Spots are already filling up fast:
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so someone fill it out soon if they would like to see one.
I'm on it...
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