Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Tobias Pankrath
> Since you're the guy working the electric schematics of the device, > can I ask you to consider an FM radio receiver in future iterations, > please? GTA04 or 05 or whatever. I believe, from a previous post to > the list, that this is a particularly popular mobile-phone feature in > Indi

Top Content page view of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread BrendaWang
Hi, all: Attached files is the Top 100 content page views of wiki. Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_200805_(TopContentReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmo

Browser Report of Wiki

2008-06-02 Thread BrendaWang
Hi, all: Attached file is browser report of wiki. Period is 1,May ~31 May. Brenda Analytics_wiki[1].openmoko.org_200805_(BrowsersReport).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.o

Re: OpenMOKO availbility

2008-06-02 Thread Dennis Wollersheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It will be available soon (within one month would be my guess). Does anyone else have a better guess? You cannot book an order at present. I reckon they will be able to ship to Pakistan. Cheers Dennis Masoom Alam wrote: > Hi every one, > > I wa

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Stroller
On 3 Jun 2008, at 02:36, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > ... GTA03 -the recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric > schematics of the device > right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't > change ;), fixing > some "bugs"/annoyances/EndOfLive-chips-issues of GTA02/FR (like >

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Jun 2008, at 23:44, Sergey Volkov wrote: > ... > I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. > ... > Could anybody unveil the GTA03 mystery? What are the hardware > specs, will the > shared-slow-videoRAM-bus issue be fixed (for me it's the main reason > to wait for the next dev

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Jun 2008, at 12:06, Mathieu Rochette wrote: > > I recently discover the foxytag project . I'm wondering if this > apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D > amAze will soon integrate foxytag but I think the software > requierement are the same as each apps is a ja

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-02 Thread Vinc Duran
This is more what I was thinking. Most folks have a trusted system, some where with remote access. At work, a friends', perhaps someplace akin to google docs. You find a computer and send your phone the wipe code. Or the lock up tight and phone home code, or even the delete the private stuff, act l

Re: OpenMOKO availbility

2008-06-02 Thread JW
soon should be less than 1 month please wait for official announcement i believe one of the german distributors is taking advance orders i think trisoft.de or could be pulster.de jw 2008/6/3 Masoom Alam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi every one, > > I wanted to ask, that when the latest version of

Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-02 Thread Lally Singh
Seen this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7430768.stm http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/02/nvidia-launches-tegra-hopes-to-change-the-smartphone-mid-game/ "The Tegra line will be all-in-one, integrated systems on a chip, containing an 800MHz ARM CPU, GeForce GPU, image processor, HD video pro

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Sergey Volkov
2008/6/3 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while > now. So mickeyl says "it's about evolution, not revolution". GTA03 -the > recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device > right now) is an impr

OpenMOKO availbility

2008-06-02 Thread Masoom Alam
Hi every one, I wanted to ask, that when the latest version of the openmoko will be available (seems a stupid question, as we can see a lot of posts on the mailing list :)). Actually, I dont want to wait for one year this time, therefore asking this question. Plus, is there is any possiblity at t

Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-02 Thread Bin Chen
Hi, As discussed before, seems there is 3 gsmd outstanding... gsmd, gsmd2, ophoned Which one is going to be the default gsm daemon in openmoko? I just take a look at gsmd2, it is actively developed. Thanks. Bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list com

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while now. So mickeyl says "it's about evolution, not revolution". GTA03 -the recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't change ;), fixi

Re: FoxyTag. Political aspects.

2008-06-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:29, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/6/2 Mathieu Rochette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I recently discover the foxytag project . I'm wondering if this >> apps could >> run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D > > hopefully not, those things are odious. > > maybe stick to

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Mathieu Rochette wrote: > I recently discover the foxytag project > . I'm wondering if this > apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D > amAze will soon integrate foxytag > but I think th

RE: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Horton
I too am interested in this HXD8 vs. GTA0x thing. Also, is the HXD8 open hardware too or closed to Dash only? Can I run Openmoko on it if I buy one? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sergey Volkov Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:44 PM To: comm

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Dean
This is GTA03 - http://walkingice.twbbs.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=715 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Sergey Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, openmoko community. > > I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. Wiki says > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA that GTA03 is

Re: possibility to purchase a moko before beginning of July

2008-06-02 Thread Steven Kurylo
> Cool, I'm in Vancouver Canada. I guess considering Taiwan is a Pacific > coast neighbour some might actually get shipped through our port. For > Canadians, will it make more sense to order online or look for a > distributor? Far as I know you can either order it from California when the web st

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok, i'm not 100% correct. It seems that this technic is somewhere in a gray zone.Some people, e.g. a policeman who told me, think it would fall under §23 StVO. But this seems to be not clear. See (german): http://www.focus.de/auto/zubehoer/radar-wa

Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Sergey Volkov
Hello, openmoko community. I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. Wiki says http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA that GTA03 is actually HXD8, a car navigation system. This claim is based on a post by Michael Lauer, http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017061.html.

Re: Induced hardware issue with 01?

2008-06-02 Thread Joachim Steiger
Lon Lentz wrote: > I have an 01BV4, which I may have banged around one too many times. > > Just started having a problem where if I put a little pressure on > the back just below the battery, the unit cuts power. I have to remove > the battery for a minute or two before I can boot it back up.

Re: possibility to purchase a moko before beginning of July

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Steven Kurylo wrote: > > Not even two hours ago Steve sent an update on production status. > Yup I'm aware of that. This email is just contingency planning just in case they get a production run out in time, if not it's all good. > >> Will access be via distributors/resellers, >> online st

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Dean
If you're speeding, you're already breaking the law. Good people have an ethical imperative to ignore and oppose unjust law. I'd love to see a Trapster[1] app on Openmoko. I was made aware of this project because of the Dash GPS-device which was made in association with FIC/Openmoko, so I've got m

Re: possibility to purchase a moko before beginning of July

2008-06-02 Thread Steven Kurylo
> Just out of curiosity, I'm going on Vacation in July and I was wondering > about how to snag one. Not even two hours ago Steve sent an update on production status. > Will access be via distributors/resellers, > online store or some other method? > > Should I be getting in touch with local rese

Re: Pick up service in fremont CA

2008-06-02 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Does this mean instead of having the Freerunner couriered to us, we could go and pick it up? If so that rocks, I should be in Mountain View (visiting Google's HQ :) round about the 9th of July, and picking up a FreeRunner would certainly be a lot cheaper then the $200 or so shipping costs to South

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 16:45:19 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > > > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during

Induced hardware issue with 01?

2008-06-02 Thread Lon Lentz
I have an 01BV4, which I may have banged around one too many times. Just started having a problem where if I put a little pressure on the back just below the battery, the unit cuts power. I have to remove the battery for a minute or two before I can boot it back up. Just handling the phone is

Re: possibility to purchase a moko before beginning of July

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Hi. No biggie on the timing here guys, no pressure at all. I'm just happy to have a free device finally. Just out of curiosity, I'm going on Vacation in July and I was wondering about how to snag one. Will access be via distributors/resellers, online store or some other method? Should I be

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/6/2 Mathieu Rochette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I recently discover the foxytag project . I'm wondering if this apps could > run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D hopefully not, those things are odious. > amAze will soon integrate foxytag but I think the software requierement ar

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 02 June 2008, Mathieu Rochette wrote: > Hello, > > I recently discover the foxytag > project. I'm wondering if > this apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll > definitly buy one :D > amAze will soon in

RE: silence (re mass production status) is deafening

2008-06-02 Thread steve
_ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron K. Jeffries Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:09 PM To: OpenMoko Subject: silence (re mass production status) is deafening (I am not complaining, just sayin'...) We're not hearing much about the status of product

Pick up service in fremont CA

2008-06-02 Thread steve
We will support pick up service in Fremont, CA. Drop me a line if interested. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: silence (re mass production status) is deafening. calling Steve at home is a no no.

2008-06-02 Thread steve
I pulled the carrot out of the ground and it still hasn't grown. Go figure! We are on what I would call a 'week for week" slip. we test for yield, we come closer. we test again. we get another slot to test. It's more painful than planter warts, hemmaroids ,hang nails or kidney stones. when we

Re: What will be shipped with FreeRunner?

2008-06-02 Thread Vinc Duran
And should we really expect those expensive looking laser styli? Styluses... On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Alexander Frøyseth < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > What is going to be shipped with the FreeRunner, in single and 10 packs > Are the headset in the box? > > Alexander Frøyseth > > __

Re: What will be shipped with FreeRunner?

2008-06-02 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > What is going to be shipped with the FreeRunner, in single and 10 packs > Are the headset in the box? If you check the mailing list you will find out that the headset, stylus and neo punch is not part of the bo

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Be careful with such software. In germany e.g. such Software is forbidden. Greetings Bastian Mathieu Rochette schrieb: | Hello, | | I recently discover the foxytag project . I'm wondering if this apps

Re: FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On 2008-06-02, at 18:47, Bastian Muck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Be careful with such software. In germany e.g. such Software is > forbidden. Are you sure about that? According to FAQ: "Laws usually prohibit radars detectors and system that perturb their functi

What will be shipped with FreeRunner?

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Hello What is going to be shipped with the FreeRunner, in single and 10 packs Are the headset in the box? Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: new iphone - not interested at all

2008-06-02 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Absolutly and totally agree with you Robert --- El lun, 2/6/08, Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > De: Robert Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: Re: new iphone - not interested at all > Para: "List for Openmoko community discussion" > Fecha: lunes, 2 junio, 2008 10:13 > Hi, > I

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > > of the response, another unsolicited command s

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 15:31:57 Bin Chen wrote: > >> > 1.) Disable sending unsolicited responses between commands. There's a > >> > 07.07 command to control that. > >> > > >> > 2.) Allow sending unsolicited responses at all times (this is better > >> > for latency) and dedicate an own GSM channel f

Re: atomic clock / radio-receiver chip

2008-06-02 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
IHMO, Doris and Poséidon precision is also pretty astounding, albeit not so well-known ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DORIS_(geodesy) . Rodolphe Le dimanche 01 juin 2008 à 23:04 +0200, Philippe Guillebert a écrit : > cdr wrote: > > the atomic clock(s) arent orbiting the earth, > > Hey, > > Acco

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Bin Chen
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 02 June 2008 15:11:17 Bin Chen wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: >> >> I am just looking

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 15:11:17 Bin Chen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > >> I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > >> has been processed. Suppose a com

Re: Map Overlay OF Wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Stroller
On 2 Jun 2008, at 10:14, Lasse Poulsen wrote: ... I've made some calculations on relations between number of visitors and population of the countries. ... PDF: http://static.silenzio.dk/om/wiki.openmoko.org_pop.pdf Considering the effort you've put into this I hope you'll forgive me for m

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Christian Benke wrote: Oh, and not to forget the choice - people are not homogenized - "We have created the software this way and this is the right way, you can't dislike it, obey" doesn't happen, hundreds of people create and recreate the software to reflect their individual choice and it's much

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Bin Chen
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: >> I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition >> has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time >> of the response, an

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-06-02 Thread Brad Midgley
Clinton >> It should be no problem. You just have to set up your routing tables >> correctly > > I think this should work automagically using pppd on both ends. still... you can't bridge the ppp adapter so it will have to be on its own subnet that you masquerade or route appropriately. -- Brad

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the > name is the same: > > AT+CREG? > > +

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joachim Steiger
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: >> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) >> by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) >> id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 >> Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread Rahul Joshi
I completely see where you are coming from. Comparisons are inevitable and imo your points are mostly valid here. Android vs Openmoko vs iPhone OSX. You can take this comparison out of the community but you cannot escape it. I bet everyone have put their 2 cents to it already, and so some ppl are h

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: > Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: > > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) > > by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) > > id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 > > Received: from smtp115.s

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: > Hi, > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the > name is the same: > > AT+CREG? > >

Will it be possible to buy FreeRunner in China?

2008-06-02 Thread Leon Goo
Hi, I'm in China, and since FreeRunner is being produced here, is there any chance I can have it shipped directly form the factory? Otherwise, the shipping cost from Europe or U.S. will be much higher. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Schreiber
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:54:23PM -0700, Ian Stephen wrote: > On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote: > > If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery > > life, any suggestions? > > I've got a Nokia N800. Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some > things 800 doesn't. Ke

FoxyTag

2008-06-02 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Hello, I recently discover the foxytag project. I'm wondering if this apps could run on the freerunner, if so I'll definitly buy one :D amAze will soon integrate foxytag but I think the software requierement are the

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) > by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) > id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 > Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.88]) > by sita.

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 01:21:03 Christian Benke wrote: > So who of you is thinking about buying the new iphone instead of an > openmoko in case the technical specs really improve(3G, better > resolution)? > I'd love to have a open smartphone, but there are so many compromises > with the openmoko pr

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread Christian Benke
> Note: Yes, it's a bit melodramatic on the surface, but I think we can all > start to feel the undertow of a lot of political, social and philosophical > movements once again under way globally. I have this uneasy feeling that > our choices around freedom just may have much more significant impli

Re: Seat in embedded Linux training session offered to a contributor

2008-06-02 Thread Michael Opdenacker
On 05/15/2008 11:30 PM, Michael Opdenacker wrote: > This could be useful for contributors to the OpenMoko project, > especially for people who wish to learn more about the kernel and about > embedded specific topics... > > At Free Electrons, we decided to offer a free seat in our upcoming > embedde

gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Bin Chen
Hi, I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the name is the same: AT+CREG? +CREG: 2 (1) +CREG: 0,1 (2) The (1) is an unsolicited c

Re: Map Overlay OF Wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Lasse Poulsen
On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:39:07 +0800 BrendaWang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear All: > Attached file is the Map overlay of wiki. > Period : > 1, april ~7, May > I've made some calculations on relations between number of visitors and population of the countries. This can't really be used for any

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread joakim
Christian Benke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Good evening! > > So who of you is thinking about buying the new iphone instead of an > openmoko in case the technical specs really improve(3G, better > resolution)? Personally, the interest in the Iphone kind of baffles me. So, I will stick with ope

Re: OpenMoko on Treo 650

2008-06-02 Thread Kyle Gordon
No problem, I'll ask them. Thanks for the info Kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kyle...I build Openmoko for the Treo 650 some times ago, but it is _very_ slow. GSM doesn't really work. There isn't much progress on porting Linux to Palm Treo 650. Maybe you can ask in the #hackndev channel on free

Re: new iphone - not interested at all

2008-06-02 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi, I for one am completely blind when it comes to proprietary technology nowadays. I am not interested in any device that offers substantially less freedom than what is provided by OpenMoko. 'Proprietariness' is kind of zero factor for me: Multiplied with any cool feature factor it will cause *zer

Re: do not need _any_ interface features

2008-06-02 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
Hi. Michael Kremliovsky pisze: If I do not want to have any UI and I do not need voice, can I reliably send data with a reasonable speed? If so, what are the benchmark speeds? You mean sendig data via GPRS? Throwing away GUI and other CPU consuming services won't help in this case as neo is 2G