Re: uboot version? wiki not accurate
Helmut Tessarek ??: Hi, I'm still using my original uboot version and I think it is time to upgrade. Unfortunately the wiki seems not to be accurate, because it states the following: The latest bootloader binary builds can be found under http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/ . All versions of the GTA02 (Neo FreeRunner) that have been sold to the public are version 5 hardware, so look for a file with gta02 and v5 in the name, for example: uboot-gta02v5-latest.bin This is the listing of the above link: [ ] dfu-util22-Oct-2008 01:31 579K [ ] gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 280 [ ] gta01bv4-u-boot.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 214K [ ] gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 308 [ ] gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 22-Oct-2008 01:31 211K [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081021.rootfs.jffs2 22-Oct-2008 01:31 34M [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081021.rootfs.tar.gz 22-Oct-2008 01:31 28M [ ] testing-om-gta01-20081022.uImage.bin22-Oct-2008 01:31 1.7M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081021.rootfs.jffs2 22-Oct-2008 01:31 41M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081021.rootfs.tar.gz 22-Oct-2008 01:31 30M [ ] testing-om-gta02-20081022.uImage.bin22-Oct-2008 01:31 1.7M I assume that gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin is the correct image, but how can I be sure? Furthermore, what is gta02v5_and_up-lowlevel.bin? Is there a stable version of uboot, or are there only daily builds available? Helmut You mena in this page? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot If it is. Can somebody feel free to fix it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New home for the New FDOM
*Updated Duke3D a version without sound but that works like a charm an has a semitransparent buttons Nice to know people appreciate my work ;) By the way, I fixed the .desktop file (I'm like you, I don't like testing so much...) Turning sound back on is just a matter of changing the config file. -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
Dear community, http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/is-openmoko-working-on-there-back-to.html And please read my comment below. I have to say I don't like opinions like this but I will take it as a result of high expectation. We will keep sending to the public list once we have something, commit to public scm, etc. but we certainly won't do _weekly_ release. For now please be patient and let the engineers work. Now for the status update this week: Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right word). He is now working on the touch screen usage, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html Olv and Erin is working on reducing boot time. Currently it's reduced from 2:35 (Om2008.9) to around 1:40. One minute less in one week, and Olv just got back from hospital last Monday. We will merge this into OE once we get it organized properly. Jeremy is working together with kernel guy (aka Matt Hsu) to look into the possible improvement, namely take a screenshot and show it first during resume. It's a common technique in mobile phone. Julian is working on the python loader. He is new to python but he got very good helps here in the office such as Guillaume, etc. He still got some distro work to finish so it's going to take a while before he can work full time on this. Currently we have a major blocker #2071. It can be solved by update EFL, but no icons will show up in illume. This seems to be a different bug, but we are having an evas-native related issue on the build server so the EFL packages are not updated correctly in downloads.openmoko.org. This prevents people from confirming it and fire another bug. EFL ABI changed along with the svn rev increment last week, so Installer and Locations won't work without rebuilding. Although people already got reassigned, but nobody will give Om2008 love except us and holger, so we will fix the issues above and update testing repo soon. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rcp works, konqueror+fish not
I have the same problem - can't upload with fish://, both with qtextended and FDOM. And sftp:// doesn't work either. It tells me the password is wrong :S So I'm using scp to copy filest to my Freerunner. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Hendrik Siedelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/22 Aapo Rantalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can rcp files from computer to my freerunner, but with konqueror and fish:// I can only download not upload. Moko just disconnects when I start uploading. Freerunner is running fdom and my computer is running Ubuntu: 8.04, Qt: 3.3.8b, KDE:3.5.9, Konqueror: 3.5.9. I just installed Debian on Freerunner and now konqueror+fish works, so I think it is about dropbear, not konqueror. (Debian has Dropbear sshd v0.51and fdom 0.49, maybe this is the point) -Aapo Rantalainen I don't really know whats the difference, but konqueror+sftp:// works out of the box on every image I used, so I think the problem is indeed fish. hendrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rcp works, konqueror+fish not
Fish document says, that perl is used if it installed on target. Freerunner Debian has perl 5.10.0 I installed perl to my FDOM from repository, it is version 5.8.8. Do not work. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:47:03PM +0800, John Lee wrote: Now for the status update this week: Olv and Erin is working on reducing boot time. Currently it's reduced from 2:35 (Om2008.9) to around 1:40. One minute less in one week, and Olv just got back from hospital last Monday. We will merge this into OE once we get it organized properly. some bootcharts here: http://people.openmoko.org/olv/tmp/ bootchart* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)
El jue, 23-10-2008 a las 22:18 +0200, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Hi David, There is a purple brained Tux on the FDOM page at http://www.tuxbrain.com/fdom_en.html Looks cool, isn't it ? :) Is that FDOM's pet or your company's ? FDOM's, Is a Fat and Dirty penguin with brained reminiscence :) If it's FDOM, is the picture copyleft ? Yes If it is copyleft, would you care to add it to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution ? I will as soon as I can :) The wiki s needs more pretty pictures. I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from a brief the demo tour Minh -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
Dear John, I agree that the blog post, and especially the title, was closer to low-level sensational journalism than to international diplomacy. I was kind of shocked as you probably were to read Openmoko has announced their 'Back to basics' plan a week ago. It's time to review. I am afraid that Brankz took my proposition that being nice and polite is mostly optional in the Open Source world too litteraly. But this is a blog, so could we simply assume that it was late in the evening, and when one writes as much as the author does, and one has a point clearly and simply written, sometimes ones overlook the smooth feelings aspects ? Having said that, regular status updates are good for everybody. Community loves it. Management loves it too, and for good reasons. May I compare with what Michael did with the Community updates series to keep everybody up to date on the hardware release ? You are a bit in the same situation with the software release. So thanks for the weekly update, and keep them coming, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 22:36:51 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: How exactly does it not work? Are you extracting the data out of the struct with the operators as described in http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/qdbusargument.html ? Thank you very much, I didn't notice the Class qdbusargument and got it working the following way: QDBusMessage PositionReply; PositionReply = GPSPositionInterface-call(GetPosition); QListQVariant ReplyData; But now I want to read the Satellite information and there I have to use qdbusargument, so thank you for that hint. By the way I'm writing a complete class to read all GPS Infos and I will make it public on the wiki when it's done. All the best Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM pet Tux (other distros too)
The wiki s needs more pretty pictures. I will try to add some screen captures too, when my neo comes back from a brief the demo tour Cool. Actually that was a subliminal message to other distribution managers. Especially to SHR and ASU, since Qt, Debian and Android more or less already have a visual identity, and FSO is a project not a distribution. Maybe we could associate the ASU series with Openmoko's slanted guy in a circle logo ? Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
Sorry, maybe I was a little to the point on that blog post. But I and several others had a big discussion about Openmoko and their way of communicating things. Mostly (and that's only my experience) when something new is announced, the developers goes crazy and the first week is the most active week of the new direction. So I had hoped to see the first steps of the new direction by now. Now I've looked almost everywhere (or everywhere I know to look) and I didn't see any start of a changing (No new posts on the bugs trac). So I was a little disappointed. Also I had promised myself to do a weekly roundup for the community, so sorry if a weekly update is to fast. It's just what I said to myself to do. So John Lee: If openmoko is busy with their 'back to basics' plan, than the post was to picky. It should been written more smooth. Sorry it wasn't. But by the things that were public at the moment, I couldn't know Openmoko was certainly busy with their 'back to basics' strategy. For the people not knowing where we are talking about, this is the blogpost: http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/is-openmoko-working-on-there-back-to.html Minh Ha Duong wrote: Dear John, I agree that the blog post, and especially the title, was closer to low-level sensational journalism than to international diplomacy. I was kind of shocked as you probably were to read Openmoko has announced their 'Back to basics' plan a week ago. It's time to review. I am afraid that Brankz took my proposition that being nice and polite is mostly optional in the Open Source world too litteraly. But this is a blog, so could we simply assume that it was late in the evening, and when one writes as much as the author does, and one has a point clearly and simply written, sometimes ones overlook the smooth feelings aspects ? Having said that, regular status updates are good for everybody. Community loves it. Management loves it too, and for good reasons. May I compare with what Michael did with the Community updates series to keep everybody up to date on the hardware release ? You are a bit in the same situation with the software release. So thanks for the weekly update, and keep them coming, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Is-Openmoko-working-on-their-%27back-to-basics%27-plan--tp1371346p1371412.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Tux image
Hi all on http://nwyfre.homelinux.net/alg_plaatjes/MokoTux1.jpg I have an image for OpenMoko. Where on the Wiki could I put it (and is there a preferred size?) Paul -- Better wade back mid water than gang forward and drown. (Scottish Proverb) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
John, this new Update is an excelent move in several aspects. Keep it going, and thank you very much!! Citando John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear community, http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/is-openmoko-working-on-there-back-to.html And please read my comment below. I have to say I don't like opinions like this but I will take it as a result of high expectation. We will keep sending to the public list once we have something, commit to public scm, etc. but we certainly won't do _weekly_ release. For now please be patient and let the engineers work. Now for the status update this week: Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right word). He is now working on the touch screen usage, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html Olv and Erin is working on reducing boot time. Currently it's reduced from 2:35 (Om2008.9) to around 1:40. One minute less in one week, and Olv just got back from hospital last Monday. We will merge this into OE once we get it organized properly. Jeremy is working together with kernel guy (aka Matt Hsu) to look into the possible improvement, namely take a screenshot and show it first during resume. It's a common technique in mobile phone. Julian is working on the python loader. He is new to python but he got very good helps here in the office such as Guillaume, etc. He still got some distro work to finish so it's going to take a while before he can work full time on this. Currently we have a major blocker #2071. It can be solved by update EFL, but no icons will show up in illume. This seems to be a different bug, but we are having an evas-native related issue on the build server so the EFL packages are not updated correctly in downloads.openmoko.org. This prevents people from confirming it and fire another bug. EFL ABI changed along with the svn rev increment last week, so Installer and Locations won't work without rebuilding. Although people already got reassigned, but nobody will give Om2008 love except us and holger, so we will fix the issues above and update testing repo soon. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tux image
Hi Paul, what about here somewhere: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Artwork ? A selection of sizes is nice, also the vector source if you did it in some vector-based program! Thanks, - Gunnar Paul wrote: Hi all on http://nwyfre.homelinux.net/alg_plaatjes/MokoTux1.jpg I have an image for OpenMoko. Where on the Wiki could I put it (and is there a preferred size?) Paul -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tux image
Hello Gunnar http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Artwork Neat! I had looked for something like this but failed to find... I put the images up there, in 4 flavours/sizes. A selection of sizes is nice, also the vector source if you did it in some vector-based program! No vector-source, sorry. I just stuck some images together. ;-) Paul -- Better wade back mid water than gang forward and drown. (Scottish Proverb) http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
Citando Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. I've been using ASU (OM2008.9) since the beginning as my daily and only phone for months now, without great problems. It stinks for SMS texting, and it is a PITA to find a contact on the list (both of these are bad designs of Qtopia), but otherwise it does the job well. The only big problem is a denial-of-service that happens because os resume problems... sometimes I get an SMS or some other event that wakes up the phone, and if I don't touch the screen, it stays awake until the battery dies. This is why sometimes I wake up to a dead phone, even though I went to bed leaving it almost fully charged. :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi Max, Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Well, on standard 2008.9 or so, you should be able to install opkg install jamvm to start with. Starting a visual java program from the command line (logging in via ssh) would then be: export DISPLAY=:0.0 jamvm -jar myJar.jar If you are running Debian, you can even install classpath, openjdk, harmony etc, but they tend to be quite slow (but Java5) HTH /peter http://www.oredev.se - Be there or be gone. GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Max, Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help to run java apps on openmoko
Hi Girish, I've been running gvSIG mobile [1], a java app, on Jalimo [2]. gvSIG mobile isn't freely available yet, but keep an eye on planet.openmoko.org for an announcement in the (hopefully) near future. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ [2] https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page 2008/10/24 Girish Revadigar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Max, Thank you for your reply. From the information on this site, looks like we need to do some external work to get java run on openmoko. Can you please suggest some java packages available which can be installed in openmoko? Thank you Girish On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Max Giesbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java ? please update if necessary... Girish Revadigar schrieb: Hi, I am new to openmoko. I want to run one of my java based GUI application on openmoko. But when I tried to check for the java support on the newly brought model, I found there is no java utility pre installed (Any JVM for running java apps). So can you guide me how can I set up my openmoko to run java applications on it? Is there any extra package I need to install? Please guide me, without finding it I can't proceed. Your valuable suggestion will be greatly helpful for me. Thank you Regards Girish +91 99867 64809 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- exactt technology Dipl. Inf. (FH) Max Giesbert Schießstättstr. 16 T: +49 17 75 07 53 44 D-80339 München F: +49 89 1 22 21 97 02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
Nik Lutz wrote: The code is a real hack - I see it as a proof of concept for my initial idea: The keyboard should have two modes. - A fullscreen-mode with plenty of space for big buttons and a textfield. - a minimized-mode with at least two buttons: one to switch to fullscreen. The second to PASTE the text that was written in fullscreen-mode to the target. I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; however the idea is really nice to me. I'd like to get a keyboard exactly like that (and with a dictionary-based typo check like the illume standard keyboard does)! I think that just adding to the Illume keyboard the ability of going fullscreen (after rotating to landscape) with an its own text field to be used as a temporary text field would be cool! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: rcp works, konqueror+fish not
mc also implements fish, so the cause is the same. The fcntl module isn't included in the standard images but is used - see .fishsrv.pl on a machine where fish has worked. This needs to be transferred though, so if shell-based transfers aren't working the perl ones can't either. Thomas Köckerbauer wrote: Just a guess, but could it have something to with that that dropbear is used as ssh server and not openssh (maybe different behaviour)? If I remember correctly also browsing using a Shell link in midnight commander does not work, this could be the same issue. Am Friday 24 October 2008 09:28:57 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen: Fish document says, that perl is used if it installed on target. Freerunner Debian has perl 5.10.0 I installed perl to my FDOM from repository, it is version 5.8.8. Do not work. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
using the FR as a daily phone
On Friday 24 Oct 2008 4:44:55 pm Vasco Névoa wrote: Citando Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone (motoming A1200) and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone. I've been using ASU (OM2008.9) since the beginning as my daily and only phone for months now, without great problems. It stinks for SMS texting, and it is a PITA to find a contact on the list (both of these are bad designs of Qtopia), but otherwise it does the job well. The only big problem is a denial-of-service that happens because os resume problems... sometimes I get an SMS or some other event that wakes up the phone, and if I don't touch the screen, it stays awake until the battery dies. This is why sometimes I wake up to a dead phone, even though I went to bed leaving it almost fully charged. :( Don't you find it a little too slow to really work with? Or is it only me? It almost tests my patience. qtextended is rather fast. Since, i use this now as my primary phone i thought id try the available distributions to see what i can use on a daily basis. I tried ASU which was rather bare as is meant to be and still slower than my patience. Then i tried the older FDOM which atleast demos the capability of the device but suffers the same slowness as the ASU. I am now about to try the latest ASU which my work well but i do not expect much in terms of speed. Next, ill try the qtopia 4.3 since i have heard it is more stable. Does the ASU ship with same qtopia applications? If it does than qtextended defenitely has better usability. Actually, i find qtextended to be quit stable except that it suffers bugs that make it annoying to use. Is qtextended (x11) available on debian? I found debian to be fast! My dream setup would be qtextended on x11 running on debian. I am generally fond of debian and Qt too. I use the KDE desktop and do software development with Qt and my daytime job is in the low level embedded (bare metal) space. Ps. Is there developer documentation that explains details? I see files like the gsmhandset.state and im not sure how all this works? clearly all the distributions for the FR seem to use the same file concept but im not sure this is a freedesktop.org standard either. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
Did not tested it yet, but I think a big keyboard is a good idea. Big keyboard with a tiny text field (reasonably tiny :)) would be great to rapid texting without any guessing system. Leonti On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nik Lutz wrote: The code is a real hack - I see it as a proof of concept for my initial idea: The keyboard should have two modes. - A fullscreen-mode with plenty of space for big buttons and a textfield. - a minimized-mode with at least two buttons: one to switch to fullscreen. The second to PASTE the text that was written in fullscreen-mode to the target. I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; however the idea is really nice to me. I'd like to get a keyboard exactly like that (and with a dictionary-based typo check like the illume standard keyboard does)! I think that just adding to the Illume keyboard the ability of going fullscreen (after rotating to landscape) with an its own text field to be used as a temporary text field would be cool! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
External wired small USB keyboard
Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using the FR as a daily phone
On Friday 24 Oct 2008 7:58:59 pm Kishore wrote: Ps. Is there developer documentation that explains details? I see files like the gsmhandset.state and im not sure how all this works? clearly all the distributions for the FR seem to use the same file concept but im not sure this is a freedesktop.org standard either. OK that file is part of alsa and details seem to be documented at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem I must spend more time reading through the wiki! ;) -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Looks very cool. The most important question is, What logo is on the meta/super key? Hopefully not the windows logo. -feywulf --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:20 AM Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Thanks. However, non flexible was also a requirement, since a solid underground is not always available. As for the logo on the meta/super key... Where is the openkeyboard.org ;) feywulf wrote: Looks very cool. The most important question is, What logo is on the meta/super key? Hopefully not the windows logo. -feywulf --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:20 AM Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
European Freerunner in USA?
I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.
Is there any way to downgrade back to stable? On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 Benedikt Schindler wrote: hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved yet. so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time) But now i don't have any desktop icons. also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now. i restored the old ~/.e directory but that didn't changed anything. some ideas? thx beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
David Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Why not a Tux? That would cover a greater market. Note that a sticker should be on the package, specifically designed for Linux. Alternatively, what would be a more generic symbol for meta/super? In that case you can 'use' it with Win/Mac/Lin. Joseph Reeves wrote: Unfortunately it's the Windows key, more pictures here: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 If interest is high enough, however, I could probably get a batch produced with whatever logo people want. Openmoko key anyone? Joseph 2008/10/24 feywulf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks very cool. The most important question is, What logo is on the meta/super key? Hopefully not the windows logo. -feywulf --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:20 AM Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? -- Joakim Verona I'm not the best person to respond to this, but I think the most compatible network would be T-mobile. Not sure on your roaming options. There are several prepaid options from T-Mobile ($1/day, 10¢/minute, etc.) on their site http://www.t-mobile.com and they include t-zones (limited internet access). Hope this helps, -- Bryan DeLuca [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Do you have any prices? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
2008/10/24 Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Do you have any prices? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
Are the files available via rsync? If so, it would be trivial for me to add it to our mirror. I'm lazy, so I'd rather not write new scripts ;). -- Eldon Koyle -- Those who do not do politics will be done in by politics. -- French Proverb On Oct 24 19:53+0200, David Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) Regards -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Or it could be left blank so any image could be applied to it. A sticker decal sheet to apply one of a selection of different images to let it appeal to as large a group as possible. It might be hard to get a sticker that wouldn't come off when rolled up. On older Unix keyboards the meta/super key had a diamond shaped graphic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key -feywulf --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 12:42 PM Why not a Tux? That would cover a greater market. Note that a sticker should be on the package, specifically designed for Linux. Alternatively, what would be a more generic symbol for meta/super? In that case you can 'use' it with Win/Mac/Lin. Joseph Reeves wrote: Unfortunately it's the Windows key, more pictures here: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080716 If interest is high enough, however, I could probably get a batch produced with whatever logo people want. Openmoko key anyone? Joseph 2008/10/24 feywulf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks very cool. The most important question is, What logo is on the meta/super key? Hopefully not the windows logo. -feywulf --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: External wired small USB keyboard To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 10:20 AM Hi, We don't have any with a built in USB hub, but you may be interested in: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex Especially the smaller model: http://oadigital.net/hardware/duraflex/duraflex-mini Cheers, Joseph 2008/10/24 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm looking for a wired small USB keyboard to use on a Freerunner. I'm looking for one: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack Especially the last requirement is hard to match (find). So far I'm stuck with: http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsm.htm http://www.fentek-ind.com/kbmsmusbb2.htm http://www.directron.com/kl51.html http://www.directron.com/psk3100u.html Does any of you know of a keyboard matches more of the above requirements? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
2008/10/25 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - which is small in size, max 12 inch or 30 cm wide - has qwerty layout - has preferably no multi media buttons / hot keys - has preferably no LEDs - has a type A USB hub - has a mini type B USB jack i think you're going to find that last one near impossible. i'd suggest hack one your self, or buy an adapter. i got one for US$3 try this for small: http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10779 82mm wide or this http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10838 218mm wide no hub in either though iirc some people here had problems with using hubs in keyboard on the neo - power draw i think was an issue. might want to check the archives before looking ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
I finally worked out what I was missing here. So for anyone else in the same bemused state: you have to have some SIM contacts! did not see that thread before -- but yes. it is so since zhone started.probably everybody presumed you know that. bot do not despair! the wiki has imo a description where to patch zhone to read from a vcard file instead. i installed osmo for calendar/contacts/... and luckily it uses those files, so i recently fiddled with zhone and found where to patch to make it read all my numbers into zhone's contact list. it's a bit late today, but i look at my code tomorrow and create a patch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
Why not use bittorrent? Then everyone who benefits, can also contribute, effortlessly. Alastair Johnson wrote: Alastair Johnson wrote: David Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time. Mirror now available at: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New home for the New FDOM
Thanks for GNUChess! Steve Ben Hussey wrote: ftp://ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, There is a new FDOM release uploaded at ... no, NOT at compartida.net as the topic suggest FDOM has a new home at http://www.tuxbrain.com/fdom_en.html and if you ask yourself why is because Tuxbrain is my brand new company and I finally have my own server to upload those light images Saergio please configure compartida as mirror if you don't mind This release is plenty of new things, the first and I believe the most Important is that you don't need to reflash your neo to FDOMize it :) Thank's to Nacho, Armin and all of you who have give us ideas and links we have created the FDOMizer :) It can be considered a instruction's log of what we do from a OM2008.X to transform it to a FDOM, The script has been structured to be able to update previous versions of FDOM to the latests one. even it has a only fix option in case some opkg update upgrade mess up things... better to say try to put order in the mess we created without success :) I have to say we have no much time to test it so surelly this is the most unstable release of FDOM we have released, but thanks of the script you will know exactly what we have done an will be easy to know how to fix it, if you want to collaborate to improve Fdomizer for next release fell free to register on the devel list. Here is a few of the improvement we have added to this new version (maybe some of them will half-work and one or two doesn't work at all yet but surely in near future they will) you can take a look directly at the script to see what and how is installed. here I post a list commented that can be used as guide to next steps (fix all that doesn't work out of the box) *dillo (this is FAST app definition ;) it's a pity it doesn't comes with ssl included) *ePdfview, not tested yet *gutenflash (is so geek app that is a must), *qt-x11 calculator works fine :) *lint-wifi(no wifi arround when I tested) *fbreader(install but not apear on the main screen, must investigate why) *Updated remoko to 0.3.2 (do not work for a dependency problem python-textutils packages seem to have bad MD5 from every where I try to download) In the game part :) *Updated Duke3D a version without sound but that works like a charm an has a semitransparent buttons *Pingus :) since I know it exists I was willing to have them on the neo *of course the venerated openmoocow!!! so silly that you must smile any time you upside down your neo *And this one is for steve GNUChess ;) And a lot of cosmetic fixes(arrange icons, submenus, search bar on contacts...) and some no so cosmetic (hwclock, alsa states, storage issue...) thanks to Armin And if you visit the page you will see one thing even my coadmins doesn't wait for }8-) Things to improve that I'm not proud of, GPL stuff, I was intended to document where any piece of code comes from but I have no time to do that, so I will try to improve this making comments on the script itself any time I put a binaries directly and revamped confs. Pindgin It has been update in angstrom repository and it segfaults, surely is dependency issue but I need more time to test. In the first start you must disable automated sleep for a couple of minutes to let the system time to stabilize. Well surely you will discover a lot more things to not to be proud of, but that's what we like it, FAT and DIRTY ;) David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions, watch out!! there is a Linux in you pocket ;) The link titled, ftp://ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases, points to the same url but with FDOM in capital letters. So I get a file not found error. The fdom needs to be changed to lowercase in the url. -Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Keyboard
on 2007.2: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./fingerkeyboard.py, line 62, in module import etk ImportError: No module named etk :( I also like the Idea, though, but some thoughts: - The fullscreen keyboard should also have a 'paste' button, so that when you select the field (i.e: a cursor appears), the fullscreen keyboard immediately pops up, you type what you want, and you press the 'ok / paste' button which makes the fullscreen keyboard dissappear and pastes the text you've entered into the text field. Maybe this could even be the enter key? - I'd prefer not having to go from portrait to landscape and back every time I have to type something - if this could be done in portrait mode somehow, that would be very nice. - if at all possible, making it terminal-friendly would also be a bonus. I'm thinking that certain keys (like the arrow keys) should immediately send that key signal, rather than having to arrow / paste. But then maybe the terminal isn't very friendly to a fullscreen keyboard... -Dale Leonti Bielski wrote: Did not tested it yet, but I think a big keyboard is a good idea. Big keyboard with a tiny text field (reasonably tiny :)) would be great to rapid texting without any guessing system. Leonti On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nik Lutz wrote: The code is a real hack - I see it as a proof of concept for my initial idea: The keyboard should have two modes. - A fullscreen-mode with plenty of space for big buttons and a textfield. - a minimized-mode with at least two buttons: one to switch to fullscreen. The second to PASTE the text that was written in fullscreen-mode to the target. I've not tested your keyboard due to some python errors (etk.TextView wasn't recognized, and I had not time to workaround/fix it; however the idea is really nice to me. I'd like to get a keyboard exactly like that (and with a dictionary-based typo check like the illume standard keyboard does)! I think that just adding to the Illume keyboard the ability of going fullscreen (after rotating to landscape) with an its own text field to be used as a temporary text field would be cool! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Openmoko working on their 'back to basics' plan?
John, Thank you very much, it's reassuring to hear these updates and to know that you guys are indeed working on it. I think that you'll make alot of people very happy if you keep updates like this coming! Don't let a couple of negative opinions worry you. Personally I've had times when I've screamed 'god damn OM!' to myself, although I do my best to refrain from making any negative comments like that in public because it's not constructive and I'd rather encourage you guys. But I think it's safe to say that many of us have been frustrated at one point or another by an apparent lack of progress towards a working phone in the past. Also, many of us were overjoyed when you made the 'back to basics' announcement, and therefore can't wait to see some results. Keeping us in the loop with whatever you can, even if it's very minimal, will stop people from being impatient and frustrated. This update is a very good thing, and I hope to see more of these updates (or, better, images / updated software!) as often as you can manage it! :) -Dale P.S: Boot time reduced by one minute already?!? nice work! :O John Lee wrote: Dear community, http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/is-openmoko-working-on-there-back-to.html And please read my comment below. I have to say I don't like opinions like this but I will take it as a result of high expectation. We will keep sending to the public list once we have something, commit to public scm, etc. but we certainly won't do _weekly_ release. For now please be patient and let the engineers work. Now for the status update this week: Tick merged the qtopia echo patch (#1267), it works, no echo but the audio sounds a little bit less 'vivid' (not sure if this is the right word). He is now working on the touch screen usage, see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002712.html Olv and Erin is working on reducing boot time. Currently it's reduced from 2:35 (Om2008.9) to around 1:40. One minute less in one week, and Olv just got back from hospital last Monday. We will merge this into OE once we get it organized properly. Jeremy is working together with kernel guy (aka Matt Hsu) to look into the possible improvement, namely take a screenshot and show it first during resume. It's a common technique in mobile phone. Julian is working on the python loader. He is new to python but he got very good helps here in the office such as Guillaume, etc. He still got some distro work to finish so it's going to take a while before he can work full time on this. Currently we have a major blocker #2071. It can be solved by update EFL, but no icons will show up in illume. This seems to be a different bug, but we are having an evas-native related issue on the build server so the EFL packages are not updated correctly in downloads.openmoko.org. This prevents people from confirming it and fire another bug. EFL ABI changed along with the svn rev increment last week, so Installer and Locations won't work without rebuilding. Although people already got reassigned, but nobody will give Om2008 love except us and holger, so we will fix the issues above and update testing repo soon. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
Thanks Alastair. Alastair Johnson wrote: Alastair Johnson wrote: David Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time. Mirror now available at: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/mirror/ftp.tuxbrain.com/openmoko/fdom/releases/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
