RE: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried everything, and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a try. Can you confirm what freerunner and android versions please There is an Android build for the Freerunner (GTA02), not for the Neo 1973 (GTA01). There is a stable release candidate (v0.2 RC1) based on Android Cupcake and there is a build of Android the master branch, which is more experimental. More info can be found on http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Niels. _ Windows 7: helpt je meer voor elkaar te krijgen. http://windows.microsoft.com/nl-BE/windows7/products/home?os=win7 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
Amazing stuff, congrats! -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 01:59:52AM +0200, pike wrote: On April 1st, 2009, Werner Almesberger wrote April 1 is not over yet ;-) [1] Following up on that discussion, I decided to write a bunch of shell scripts to read/write sms, calls, manage your address book etc. At first, they were basicly mdbus wrappers. But it apparently took me a full year get the details right. And today is a nice day to release what I have http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone I'm curious what y'all think. My aim was to write something that would beat the guis: quicker to load, easier to work with, more reliable, and, when using a gui like FatFingerShell [2], prettier :-) But to be honest, I'm not there yet. I learned the nitgrit of bash, sed and awk along the way; most of the code already looks like babytalk to me now, but well it works. $2c, *-pike [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2542865%7Ca2568942 [2] http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/web.html Hi, Haven't tried yet, but from description it looks usefull (I'm using my neo mostly only remotely over ssh connection :)). So I'm already preparing bb recipe for that to put it in shr-u feeds. Thanks! -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
Hi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone Haven't tried yet, but from description it looks usefull (I'm using my neo mostly only remotely over ssh connection :)). So I'm already preparing bb recipe for that to put it in shr-u feeds. That sounds great. Not exactly sure what it means though :-) Let me know if you need anything. for example .. I've put the tarbal up on google code but I could put the sources under public svn there if thats easier ? thanks, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:35:25PM +0200, pike wrote: Hi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone Haven't tried yet, but from description it looks usefull (I'm using my neo mostly only remotely over ssh connection :)). So I'm already preparing bb recipe for that to put it in shr-u feeds. That sounds great. Not exactly sure what it means though :-) Let me know if you need anything. I have .ipk now http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/thone_0.5-r0.4_all.ipk But it's just converted tgz-ipk made by bitbake. for example .. I've put the tarbal up on google code but I could put the sources under public svn there if thats easier ? Yeah, would be nice to have it somewhere in tar.gz or svn in form of just source files and simple Makefile which has only target install which moves source files to right target dirs. BTW: Haven't seen your real name to fill AUTHOR field properly.. but nick will be enough if it is intentional ;). Cheers, -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Noel noe2...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody knows a kernel and a basic phone application that work with Neo Freerunner? I gave up on this quest a few months back and bought an n900. I love it - it has all of the advantages I liked about the FR (can ssh into it, run most standard linux software, etc.), *but* it works as a phone. Good luck! Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone?
[cut] I gave up on this quest a few months back and bought an n900. I love it - it has all of the advantages I liked about the FR (can ssh into it, run most standard linux software, etc.), *but* it works as a phone. Sad, but true... for now. I believe it will be better :) -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: I decided to write a bunch of shell scripts Yup, really nice stuff;). Thanks. Hope you bring it to completion;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/fso] w/o sim battery empties alarmingly fast
well, i have to confess, i fell off the waggon and bought an n900, too -- already got the impression i was one of the last of the mohicans using the fr as sole phone (or phone at all). anyway, now the fr doesn't have a sim card anymore, i expected the battery to last much longer than the usual 3 days -- but, actually, it goes flat very, very fast! what does fso do when no sim is detected? imo it should disable everything related to telephony and thus save a lot of power, but that doesn't seem to be what happens. the second best bet would probably be to manually diasble all kind of stuff in some config files, but which would that be? but i would very much prefer the first scenario, allowing me to put a sim back in and use the fr as a phone w/o any changes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-launcher updated
There is no new commit on http://code.google.com/p/shr-launcher/source/list :/ That's right. Changed (broke ;-) too many things - so left that code as is. This version has a few more bugs to iron before I commit. This ipk is a pre-release to check if there are still some show stoppers left. Maybe this week more at the most. not sure how for others, but for me the bottom application icon list has not been visible for some weeks now, even in the latest ipk... am i missing something? cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-launcher updated
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: not sure how for others, but for me the bottom application icon list has not been visible for some weeks now, even in the latest ipk... am i missing something? might have something to do with the new illum2 reconfiguration? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
Hi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone I have .ipk now http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/all/thone_0.5-r0.4_all.ipk Cool! Thanks! Now, as was to be expected, I fixed some bugs and upped a new version, 0.6 .. with a different url .. wouldnt it be easier if I hosted that ipk myself, on googlecode ? .. so i was trying to untarzip your ipk file to see if I could update it but it gives tar: invalid tar magic. isnt it a tarzip ? I'm wondering how to proceed. Never done this. Given the way .ipk works, I dont see the need for a makefile. BTW: Haven't seen your real name to fill AUTHOR field properly.. but nick will be enough if it is intentional ;) . Yeah, pike will do :-) thanks, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
Hello Pike, --- On Tue, 3/30/10, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: On April 1st, 2009, Werner Almesberger wrote April 1 is not over yet ;-) [1] Following up on that discussion, I decided to write a bunch of shell scripts to read/write sms, calls, manage your address book etc. At first, they were basicly mdbus wrappers. But it apparently took me a full year get the details right. And today is a nice day to release what I have http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone I'm curious what y'all think. My aim was to write something that would beat the guis: quicker to load, easier to work with, more reliable, and, when using a gui like FatFingerShell [2], prettier :-) But to be honest, I'm not there yet. I learned the nitgrit of bash, sed and awk along the way; most of the code already looks like babytalk to me now, but well it works. Grrreat!.. :-) Thanks a lot!. I will test your job on fatfingershell asap and I'll let you know how it goes. Since new libsdl lets us run/rotate sdl applications on fb directly it would be possible to start the system with just a shell to work :) Rafael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thone 0.5
pike wrote: And today is a nice day to release what I have http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Pike/Thone Looks great ! Finally a UI that's friendly also with users who are hackers ;-) It would be nice to avoid modal dialogs, like the one in $TH_MENU_SMSREAD. Why not simply remember the last message read and have commands del(ete), re(ply), n(ext), p(rev), etc., that operate on whatever was the last message ? mh worked like this, and it was quite nice to use. sms read can still print a hint what commands may be useful next, but without a modal dialog. (As an advanced feature, there could then be an option for an expert mode that turns off the hints.) If there's an undo, you also don't need to ask before dangerous operations. By the way, regarding overlay keyboards, in cases where fatfingershell is too crowded or narrow, perhaps the following approach may be worth considering: - use a 4 x 6 grid (or similar) - use the keys on the leftmost column as modifiers, e.g., with the following functions: - Left: use left half of the keyboard - Shift: shift, pressed in combination with Left and Right - Right: use right half of the keyboard - Fn: special functions/characters - for the remaining positions, select the layout according to the modifier(s) pressed Typical use would be two-handed. E.g., if we assume a split through the middle of a regular keyboard, we'd get something like this: Modif. LeftRight -- - - Left1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Shift Q W E R T Y U I O P Right A S D F G H I J K L Fn ? Z X C V B N M ? ? ? is something non-alphanumerical. Space, Enter, and Delete come to mind. We can use Shift+Number for special characters. To type Hello, one could - hold Right+Shift then tap H - hold Left and tap E - hold Right and tap L, then holding Right tap L again - keep holding Right and tap O If modifiers are sticky, also single-handed use would be possible, but slower. Right+Shift could correspond to a location somewhere around the bottom of the Shift area, or a transition of in Right to between Right and Shift (rolling the finger.) The multi-touch effect would be possible because touching positions X and Y looks like a touch at a position in the middle between the two. A sequence like Left-E would then look like this: - press somewhere in Left (let's call this vector X, from the origin) - point moves - without releasing - somewhere near the top of W or Q (let's call this vector Y, from the origin) - we calculate the real second position as X+2*(Y-X) Just an idea for whichever April 1st is next :-) - Werner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
