Re: Open Source AHRS project: giving away hardware
Sounds like a fun challenge. I'd take it up if I wasn't already so busy. After all, who in their life hasn't at one point wanted to write an Unscented Kalman Filter? ;-) Just out of curiosity, is OpenPilot.org not a viable solution? --Ben On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: Hello, With the idea of spurring interest in the development of a software Attitude Heading Reference System for the GTA02, I am going to be giving away twelve (12) Golden Delicious NavBoard V2s to developers that are willing to work on this idea. I have been frustrated by lack of an available AHRS for Linux-based systems for many years now. The closest thing available is the FoxAHRS: https://github.com/FedericoLolli I believe it runs on the ARM-based G20 board: http://www.acmesystems.it/FOXG20 I might be wrong but anyway the idea is to get a working 100% open source AHRS than can run on the GTA02 and GTA04. Ideally it should be entirely self-calibrating (i.e. figure out what's level and calibrate the compass via GPS track by an easy calibration or self-calibration method). This is what the boards look like: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v2 It has a 3D ITG-3200 Rate Gyro, the HMC 5843 magnetometer and BMP 085 barometric sensor. It's a board you must solder internally to the GTA02. Anyone that actually ends up contributing to this project will also be given a Navboard V3, which has a better magnetometer, to make sure it works that one as well (I paid good money for the V3 boards so I don't want to give them away to people who may not ever end up installing them). If anyone that is a serious contributor needs some help, I would be more than willing to help out with stuff like free brand new GTA 02s (850Mhz or 900Mhz, I have both brand new in stock) , new batteries. Serious hackers don't need to worry about damaging their GTA02, I will provide replacement units to anyone who does and is serious about this project. I also have a early GTA04 fully assembled with new case/screen/battery to give away to a serious contributor who would be willing to ensure that the AHRS code would run properly on this platform as well. You may reply to me privately or via this list. Pascal Gosselin pas...@wi-flight.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mounting FR in car for GPS usage
Years ago I found a cheap magnet mount at a truck stop and have been very pleased with it. A round, rubberized magnet is adhered to the dashboard (just pull off the backing, like a sticker) and a thin, flat, hardly noticeable plate sticks to the back of the Freerunner. Easy to snap on and easy to grab and go. This looks like something similar: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-UNIVERSAL-DASH-CAR-HOLDER-MAGNET-MOUNT-CRADLE-FOR-MOBILE-SMART-PHONE-MP3-NEW-/371015224338 —B On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Hello, Has someone a good idea or solution how to mount the FR device in the car, visible by the driver to be used as GPS maps? I think the best place would be near the windshield in the drivers corner. Thx matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 work (was: Openmoko's downfall (was changing IMEI))
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote: On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste time on the kernel instead of working on the problems that prevent the board being used? Why are you not spending this time working on the power drain? When you start working on the master or PhD thesis to resolve the power drain, I'm sure you'll find the community will be more supportive After much study, I have discovered that the biggest power drain appears to be coming from certain posts on the mailing list which ridicule and demoralize the people actually doing the work in this community. When people volunteer to work on free software/hardware projects, they are doing something to make the world a better place and they should be paid back with, at the least, our respect. —Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] new svg keyboard
I love it. I hadn't known it was missing before, but I am glad *somebody* finally put a tea key on a keyboard. :-) (Err... I mean☺) —B On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Francesco De Vita francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hello everybody I took advantage of the holidays and I made a new SVG keyboard, cute, only qwerty, not so finger friendly but nailstylus friendly for sure. Why I did that? - no matter what, the Freerunner screen it is what it is (not so finger friendly) - no existing finger friendly keyboard suits my fingers - I only use qwerty - I wanted a better looking keyboard Screenshots here [1], here [2], here [3] and here [4]. It is a replacement for the existing svgkbd, if you want to try it make sure to backup the contents in /opt/qtmoko/etc/im/svgkbd/ and then copy-past there the files in the archive [5] (don't wget it, it couldn't work with dropbox). Restart QtMoko and enjoy. For now the keyboard is designed for the italian language. If you're not able to DIY and want a help for a different character set, I could help on request. Happy holidays and happy new year! Joif [1] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d5v33v4va2j5z9/RDIsCK-WpG/svg1.png [2] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d5v33v4va2j5z9/W-V1dpphZe/svg2.png [3] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d5v33v4va2j5z9/0aVKRpdmc1/svg3.png [4] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d5v33v4va2j5z9/eUx_oAcuat/svg4.png [5] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5d5v33v4va2j5z9/CY3sKbPjnP/svgkbd.tar.gz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Use of a FreeRunner
I'm sure it could; your FreeRunner is a complete computer. The question is if you have the time (or money to hire someone) to write the glue script that will put all the pieces together. Let's see, the parts you'll need are: 1. Check your mail account (fetchmail or python's imaplib) 2. Do a regex check to see if it's important (egrep/python/perl/awk/...) 3. Convert it to SMS format 3a. MIME extract (munpack or python's email package) 3b. Optionally remove HTML markup (lynx -dump or Beautiful Soup's get_text() function) 4. Send it as an SMS messages (dbus to FSO works but may not be best practices) —B On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote: People, I have not used my FreeRunner for ages and probably should donate it someone who can make use of it but a thought occurred to me: It would be good to have something that could act like a SMS server eg I have a demand where if an (urgent) email comes into a particular account, that the contents of the email are able to be resent as an SMS out through a mobile device gateway to a number of phones - could OpenMoko be rejigged to do this somehow? Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v58 - best way to upgrade
I've got v58 working now (thanks to the logging kludge) and have not had a problem with resuming yet. I did have a lot of reports initially of people trying to call me and my phone not ringing, but after I turned off multiplexing in Neocontrol things seem to be better. (I've never had to turn off multiplexing before, so I'm not sure why that helped this time.) Speaking of kernel bugs, I did have a kernel panic when a second call came in while I was already on the phone. [Fortunately, (thanks to the nifty design of the Freerunner) I was able to keep talking on the phone even with a hung kernel!] By the way, call waiting did work in the previous version of qtmoko, but it had a bug such that I wouldn't be able to hear the other person until I put them on speaker phone. —B On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday, December 22, 2013 06:47:05 PM Nick wrote: Many thanks Radek for keeping QtMoko going! My FreeRunner has been my daily phone for about the last year thanks to it, and it generally works really well. Can I upgrade to v58 by just doing a 'apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade', or should I flash it afresh? Hmm there have been a lot of changes, e.g. in apt sources.list, so reflash is IMO better. It should be ok to backup and restore your /home/root dir. Btw i have doubts that our 2.6.39 kernel is really bug free. My Freerunner failed like 3 times to resume during those 6 days i am using it :( I wonder if it is just my phone or others seen it too? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Larger capacity battery
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:39 AM, joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: Maybe useful background can be found in: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 jOERG, That's a pretty handy page. I hadn't realized LiIon batteries varied much by manufacturer. Is there a similar script for the Freerunner which can perform the same battery capacity test? —B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
There must be some timing problem. It can be quite tricky to debug it, because with logging it works and with debugging enabled it works too. Timing with the AT communications? Would that be the chat script? 3/ implement better screen locking. Now if you lock screen and receive phone call the screen unlocks and never locks again. I'd like to have it locked once the call ends. That would be a nice one to fix. If I don't notice that I've received a text message or call, I'll sometimes find later that the phone is very warm and the battery nearly dead even though I haven't been using it. 4/ maybe fix the wifi dialog It would be nice if it was sane. But even just ditching it and having something simple, even trivial like OpenWRT's ewoc-cli script, would be an improvement. —B P.S. I've got my phone working again with v58. Apparently my kernel hadn't flashed correctly. And like everyone else, I had to enable logging to get past the number pad screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
Weirdly, I'm getting a panic on boot with the JFFS2 images for rootfs and u-boot. I'll try resending with dfu-util again. —B P.S. When I mentioned using 'dd' before to write directly, I meant to say 'nandwrite'. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Francesco De Vita francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Thank you Radek, the jffs2 image works on NAND! But, as happened for the uSD version, the system stops at the PIN screen. However, as you suggested, enabling the modem logging solves the problem. Regards Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Friday, December 13, 2013 02:59:01 AM Ben Wong wrote: What's the checksum supposed to be for the QTMoko files? a76072c1c9dce4eb2b07235f7cc307fe qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58.ubi 50baec96657802b5a053fa0ef6b777a2 uImage.bin-2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 Yup, that's what I'm getting. This is strange - it works for me. Are you using dfu-util or dd to write to the NAND? Are you booting with qi-v58.udfu? Is the tarball ok at least? I tried qi-v58 first then qi-v56 as a test. Neither worked. Haven't tried the tarball; I don't have an SD card handy and (correct me if I'm wrong) there's no way to unpack the tarball onto the NAND unless you've already booted from SD. I notice that v58's .ubi file is 101MiB. This is probably a red-herring, but is there any known problem with crossing the 100MiB threshold? [Oh wait, ignore that, I just checked and v54's .ubi was 142MiB.] —B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
The size should be ok. NAND is IIRC 256MB. Would you be interested to try jffs2? I can do it and upload quite easily. Sure, I'd give that a shot if it's easy for you to do. I seem to have more corruption problems from ubifs than jffs2, so wouldn't mind going back. —B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v58 with 2.6.39 kernel and improved power management
Thanks for the update, Radek and Paul! I'm downloading v58 now and looking forward to having a stable system. By the way, I'm glad to see two big user interface bugaboos for me (vibration when resuming and hanging up when hitting answer twice) have been fixed. I think my only other bothersome bug is the way the Terminal interacts with the onscreen keyboard; almost always when switching applications the keyboard disappears and so does the button for showing the keyboard! I have to close the app and restart it to get a keyboard again. (Alternately, I can use one of the themes, like Finxi, that have a toggle keyboard icon builtin, but I prefer the look of Mokofaen.) —B On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, QtMoko v58 for Freerunner is now out! You can download here [1] and visit our homepage [2] for more info. Here is list of changes since last Freerunner release: * gta02 kernel upgrade to 2.6.39 * hack to stop vibrating after resume * show end call button after 2s to avoid unwanted press * improved colors in qmplayer encoding * better name of encoded movie in qmplayer * using emdebian for some packages * using glamo-mplayer as package * suspend in locked screen is now after 3s * accelerometers are now in module and disabled by default (see below) 99% of the credit for this release goes to Paul Ferster. He managed to find the suspend/resume problem and finally after years we have stable kernel. Many thanks! As a side effect while playing with the new kernel i have discovered power management bug in lis302dl (accelerometer) driver. The module seems to eat ~6mA in suspend. So by default the module is now not loaded and accelerometers are not working. On the other side, the current in suspend is now between 4..6mA which gives ~200 hours in standby! If you want to use accels you do: echo lis302dl /etc/modules echo joydev /etc/modules As for the other changes. I plan to start using Freerunner as my daily phone now so i had to fix one old problem. When i answered phone call i often accidentaly pressed the Accept call button twice. After first press the button changed to End call and the second press ended the call immediately. This is now fix and there is 2s interval where second press is ignored. Another problem noticed was that sometimes the phone would start vibrating after resume. So there is now hack that stops vibrations after each resume. Another nice thing is that i am now using emdebian and i have rebuild a few packages with useless python dependencies. The result is that tarbal size went from 161MB - 88MB and ubifs 146MB - 102MB. So if you are still using Freerunner i hope it can work for you nicely. Cheers Radek Btw - anyone has working GPS on Freerunner? I cant get fix and it seems it's not SW problem. It would be nice to have it working again... [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ [2] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
Hey Joif, You're not alone. I get the same message with v58 in NAND; haven't tried on SD yet. I thought it might be DFU transferring the file system incorrectly, but seeing that you have the same problem, I think perhaps the image on sourceforge is corrupted. What's the checksum supposed to be for the QTMoko files? —B On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Francesco De Vita francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hello Flashing QtMoko v58 I discovered that I'm not able to boot any more from NAND. This is what I receive after pressing the power button: UBI error: process_eb: bad image sequence number 1588845893 in PEB 1971, epxected 1933142073 slab error in kmem_cache_destroy(): cache `ubi_scan_slab': Can't free all objects UBI error: ubi_init: cannot attach mtd6 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [c002b0f0] (unwind_backtrace+0x0/0xf0) from [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) from [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) from [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) from [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) from [c0027730] (kernel_thread_exit+0x0/0x8) With v55 it seems to boot correctly but the process stops after the first configuration, and rebooting gives just a black screen. With v56 I have similar errors like above. Any hints on what's going on? I'm so sad... Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] cannot boot from NAND
This is my main phone, so I've reverted to v55 (the latest one I could find on sourceforge) and it seems to be working. —B On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jorge xxo...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, same here. No booting from NAND. On 12/12/13 23:59, Ben Wong wrote: Hey Joif, You're not alone. I get the same message with v58 in NAND; haven't tried on SD yet. I thought it might be DFU transferring the file system incorrectly, but seeing that you have the same problem, I think perhaps the image on sourceforge is corrupted. What's the checksum supposed to be for the QTMoko files? —B On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Francesco De Vita francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hello Flashing QtMoko v58 I discovered that I'm not able to boot any more from NAND. This is what I receive after pressing the power button: UBI error: process_eb: bad image sequence number 1588845893 in PEB 1971, epxected 1933142073 slab error in kmem_cache_destroy(): cache `ubi_scan_slab': Can't free all objects UBI error: ubi_init: cannot attach mtd6 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [c002b0f0] (unwind_backtrace+0x0/0xf0) from [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) [c02aba94] (panic+0x58/0x174) from [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) [c0008cc0] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x294) from [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) [c0008f6c] (prepare_namespace+0x8c/0x1c8) from [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) [c00089b4] (kernel_init+0xfc/0x130) from [c0027730] (kernel_thread_exit+0x0/0x8) With v55 it seems to boot correctly but the process stops after the first configuration, and rebooting gives just a black screen. With v56 I have similar errors like above. Any hints on what's going on? I'm so sad... Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: i am still undecided if i should admire or pity the thread starter, if he honestly believed that this community would be able to succeed where ubuntu failed -- and on top of that to jump from todays GTA04 to the device as imagined by ubuntu ... Go with admire. :) I'm not saying we'd succeed, I'm just suggesting that we could do with failing the way Ubuntu did. By putting out a bold idea, Ubuntu moved the idea of an open source phone forward from the standard it's gotta be Android mentality, spurred themselves to innovate, and proved there was a demand for something else. Of course, what that something else is is different for everybody, but we don't have to please everyone. Our community's niche is not in being the most whizbang or the cheapest or the prettiest. I believe the folks in this community have the ability to offer the only free-as-in-freedom phone/computer and that's worth something. Not to everybody, but to some percent. Ubuntu's failure included over 5000 orders for units at $700 each. Could we have 5% as much fail as Ubuntu? Yes. But we'd need to get the word out and I'm just suggesting now might be a good time, while people are still wondering what to do with that extra $700 PayPal just refunded to them. :) —Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM card backup
Four years ago this worked for getting data from a SIM card: http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg55862.html qtmoko SMS messages are saved in an sqlite3 file under Applications/qtopiamail/ On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Алексей fl...@member.fsf.org wrote: 1) How may I backup and restore all the data including sms messages and phonebook from a sim card? 2) How to backup qtmoko sms messages and phonebook? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Battery
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM, NeilBrown ne...@suse.de wrote: On the GTA04 I just read /sys/class/power_supply/bq27000-battery/charge_full and /sys/class/power_supply/bq27000-battery/charge_full_design and divide one by the other. Does the GTA02 not have something similar? Did anyone ever figure this one out? On my GTA02 (Linux 2.6.34), I see /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_full, but no charge_full_design. --B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
Well, the deadline is up. The pledges rolled in and they got $12.8 million, which sounds amazing until you see that their goal was for $32 million. I guess that means all that money is getting refunded and there will be no Ubuntu Edge. Here's Shuttleworth's upbeat closing comment: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=activity I wonder if OpenPhoenix has an opportunity now, with all those frustrated would-be buyers out there. --B On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] what will happen with all that funded money if Ubuntu fails to reach their goal? OK, finally found it: http://www.indiegogo.com/how-pricing-works-on-indiegogo -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how big is the advantage of the gta02s and gta04s regarding private data?
Ask them if they have actually read the contracts they have signed in order to use their device. I have, and I actually like the ones I'm bound by (e.g., GNU GPL). Most people nowadays assume that there is no alternative to a lopsided contract in which the user must cede all rights. To me, one of OpenMoko's greatest successes was proving that it is possible to have a sane, understandable contract and still use a cell phone. --Ben On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:57 PM, robin spielr...@web.de wrote: hi, I was just wondering what facts one would/could/should have at hand when arguing with an iphone or android owner regarding privacy in respect to the latest news on information harvesting? gta02/gta04 surely give you root rights right from the beginning but as far as I understand calls still are going the standard way and if you were into facebook it would matter which device you'd be using. so what is the main benefit which may be used as a selling point for gta04? r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how big is the advantage of the gta02s and gta04s regarding private data?
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, robin spielr...@web.de wrote: and if you were into facebook it would NOT matter which device you'd be using. True enough. I'm getting kind of tired of The Cloud knowing everything I share with my friends. I've heard that Diaspora (joindiaspora.com) has better privacy. Does anyone here use it? What's a good Diaspora program for the Neo? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth Keyboard
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: Thank you Radeck, I'm glad to have the Docked keyboard back: it is priceless when sending SMS via vnc! Nice tip, Giacomo. That reminds me that my biggest bugaboo with QtMoko is that I have never been able to get my bluetooth keyboard to work. It's quite frustrating to have to plug my Neo into a PC just so I can ssh into it with a proper keyboard. I seem to remember Radek saying about a year ago that the issue was not too hard to fix, but I think nobody has stepped forward to do it. I started reading the QT documentation myself, but was daunted. I suspect simple for Radek is still too hard for lesser-mortals. ;-) --B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko packages for old input methods
Thank you for doing this. As nifty as the idea of the translucent keyboard was, I think I would go back to the predictive keyboard (as used in SHR) if I could. --B On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, I have started packaging old input methods for QtMoko. You can find armel (Neo) packages here: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/category-input.html The packages are still unfinished and some input methods dont work yet. Here is current status: - Big landscape keyboard: unusable - quite strangely stretched - Docked keyboard: usable, package is missing icons for arrows and other symbols - Finger friendly keyboard: usable, same as docked - Non docked keyboard: same as above - Predictive keyboard: makes QtMoko hang on startup Maybe some of the issues can be made by manually copiing files from old QtMoko tarball [1]. I'll try to finish up the packages in next few days and also provide armhf variants. Regards Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Old/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Mokofaen red signal strength icon
Yes, I too had thought red meant super duper must be 110% signal strength. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: I've been wondering for some time what it means when the GSM signal strength icon goes red, and whether/how that's different from the icon disappearing altogether, and whether/how either of those are related to modem crashes. After consulting the code, I see that: - disappeared completely = 0% signal strength - all red = 1-20% signal strength - 1 blue bar = 21-40% - 2 blue bars = 41-60% - 3 blue bars = 61-80% - 4 blue bars = 81-100% Now that I know that, I suggest that the all red icon is quite unintuitive, and that it would be more intuitive if changed to the same grey colour as used in the blue bar icons. Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme, update
Theming *is* a critical task. I use only the MokoFaen theme because (a) it looks much better and (b) the default Finxi theme had a bug (at one point) where if you hung up the phone with the number pad showing, the menu was messed up the next time you were in a call. MokoFaen has always worked great for me. --Ben On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:45 AM, francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hi list! I'm going to work to an update for the MokoFaen theme for QtMoko. I'm planning a few changes to it but I really would like to have some feedback from the community. Usually I just follow my taste, but I admit that my work sometimes lacks beauty and functionality. So I'm asking you to give me some hints, to tell me what you like, what you don't like, what features do you want. For now I found some aspects that I would like to change: - The theme became heavy, if you use a GTA02 you can notice a less responsiveness of the system, compared to the default Finxi theme. I have to lighten the graphical elements; - The theme became also heavy from an aesthetic point of view, maybe a more minimal style could be pleasant; - In the home screen there are a lot of infos displayed, maybe they can be regrouped in a more efficient way, I'm thinking about something like conky [1] or conky-colors [2]; - After a series of test, at least on my GTA02, the use of the lock-screen button in the home screen causes several freezes. So now I'm using the power button to put my GTA02 in suspend and I'm going to remove the lock-screen button from the homescreen. I know that theming is not a critical task, for me it's just an amusement, but your opinions and help could be really useful. Regards Joif [1] http://conky.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=92328 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: I don't know how to tell my procmail to discard completely off topic messages like these. It's been awhile since I used procmail, but I believe the recipe to add to your procmailrc is: :0: * ^From:.*commun...@lists.openmoko.org * ^Subject:.*\bOT\b trash # Save to a file named trash. Could use /dev/null. For those who use Gmail, here's an image of how to mute the conversation: http://imagebin.ca/view/2drcc4.html --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: This subject is covered in Ellen Spertus’s 1991 paper titled “Why are There so Few Female Computer Scientists?”: http://people.mills.edu/spertus/Gender/pap/pap.html Thanks for the link. Reading it reminds me of the time I was writing a paper which had many examples of computer users. For half of them I used female pronouns. I was amused and slightly disturbed that my co-author (from the Netherlands) fixed my mistakes by changing them all to male. --Ben P.S. To gmail users: Never want to see this thread again? Click More Actions - Mute. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to transfer SMS from your old phone?
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: When the calypso is off (and it's always off unless GSM resource is requested), it's perfectly ok to swap SIM cards. Thanks, Paul! That's exactly the information I was looking for. I'll try this next time, $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy GSM disabled [ Swap SIM here, unless previous command failed ] $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy GSM auto --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to transfer SMS from your old phone?
My older brother, a world traveler, had a box full of SIM cards from
which he wanted to back up all the old SMS and address books. We used
my FreeRunner to do it using a quick hack script I wrote that dumps
the info to a text file. The result was not in UTF-8, so I wrote a
tiny C program to fix it. I'm sure my method could be vastly
improved, but this works. I've pasted them below for everyone's
enjoyment.
By the way, the slowest part of the process was rebooting the
FreeRunner between each SIM. I didn't want to risk my FreeRunner by
hot-swapping the SIM (and SD card since that's in the way). Does
anyone know if it would have been safe to do that?
--Ben
- Start backupsim.sh -
#!/bin/sh
exec 1simbackup-$(date '+%Y-%h')
echo GetSimInfo
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd \
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device \
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimInfo
echo
for book in $(mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd \
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device \
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.ListPhonebooks \
| tr ',' '\n' | egrep -o '\w*')
do
echo $book
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd \
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device \
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrievePhonebook \
$book
echo
done
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd \
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device \
org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook 'all'
End of backupsim.sh
Start sim2utf8.c
#include stdio.h
main() {
int c;
char h[3];
while ((c=getchar()) != EOF) {
if (c== '\\') {
c=getchar();
if (c!='x') {
putchar('\\');
putchar(c);
continue;
}
c=hexme (getchar(), getchar());
putchar(c);
continue;
}
putchar(c);
}
}
int hexme(int x, int y) {
if (x= '0' x='9')
x=x-'0';
else
x=x-'a'+10;
if (y= '0' y='9')
y=y-'0';
else
y=y-'a'+10;
return x+16*y;
}
End of sim2utf8.c
P.S. I pasted the text instead of using MIME attachments (or an
external web site) because I'd like this to be google-able.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to transfer my old SMSes from my previous Windows Mobile
phone to my Openmoko FreeRunner. I vaguely remember to have seen
instructions on a user page on the wiki about how to do this. But I
cannot find this page any more.
Please, let me know how to do this if you know.
Thanks,
Jan.
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Re: SHR clock reset
Bizarrely, my Freerunner also got the wrong time yesterday. Is there something special about October 1st? I'm running SHR testing, but I booted into an old copy of SHR unstable and it also go it wrong. The first time the date was 1970 (the epoch), the second time it thought it was 1933! (Negative time? I'm curious how that happened.) I'm hoping it was just that I was near a badly configured cell tower. When I checked it again later, after I got home, the time and date had reset itself correctly. On the other hand, I have *never* seen a cell in the US with the time misconfigured. I'll test it again when I head back to the same area next week. --Ben 2009/10/1 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt: I've started experiencing the same in the last few days. The Neo's clock had always been impeccably correct, until now. Now it was half an hour late and I set it by hand. It appears the clock is drifting, and otimed isn't keeping it in sync with the GSM. The only hints in frameworkd.log are: 2009.10.01 18:05:25.88 otimed INFO loaded timesources [GPSTimeSource, NTPTimeSource checking 134.169.172.1 every 600 seconds] 2009.10.01 18:05:25.124 otimed INFO loaded zonesources [GSMZoneSource] 2009.10.01 18:05:25.138 frameworkd.subsystem INFO subsystem otimed took 1.53 seconds to startup 2009.10.01 18:06:27.163 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 18:06:27.357 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 18:16:39.457 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 18:16:49.835 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 19:18:44.462 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 19:19:20.392 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 19:19:48.627 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 19:20:40.194 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 19:20:58.312 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 20:49:58.117 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 20:53:14.628 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 22:18:28.542 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found 2009.10.01 22:48:41.491 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found Does this GSM: multiple zones found situation create a problem? I looked at the hwclock, but it seems it's not even in use / not related to the time shown to user: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ hwclock -l Thu Oct 1 21:52:35 2009 0.00 seconds r...@om-gta02 ~ $ date Thu Oct 1 23:15:20 WEST 2009 Any hints on what the problem is? Vikas Saurabh escreveu: Timezone from GSM is already implemented for ages ;) I have often got wrong timezones reported by cell (thereby resetting my phone's clock and making me reach late somewhere :(...but thats a different story) I was wondering if shr-settings can get something like: Use cell timezone: * yes * no * ask --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fatfingershell ?
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:01 AM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: I'm not in favor of one char commands - i like the fact that the terminal would literally type out call if you type c[tab]. This way, getting familiar with the available commands is really easy. Ofcourse, it implies there should be no other commands with a c on your path. [...] - a 3rd keyboard for special chars (1 is keys, 2 is numbers, 3 is *) - I'm short on screen estate already :-) I would like to see a third keyboard that is programmable. That way, I could have a Call key that types the word call . Also, I second the request for arrow keys, though I admit the vi bindings do have advantages and I could probably learn to live with them. I realize the primary fat finger shell keyboard doesn't have room for four more keys, but I think we can get away with just one more. I'd be happy with a single, grand-unified-cursor button that, when held, moves the cursor in the direction I tilt the phone (relative to initial position). Editing or perusing a file would be like playing mokomaze in ASCII. Alternately, when not pressed, the icon and action of the single cursor button could change depending upon the absolute tilt (left, right, up down, page up, page down, home, end) and it would otherwise work as a normal button. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
Hello Brolin, I showed your post to a few geek girls and asked them what advice they would give. I'm CC'ing the list with their (edited) responses because I have a hunch that there are more Brolins out there. Ben ___ Overall, my advice isn't profound - but simple. I would recommend he think about what things he likes that he can share with others. Surely there is some activity/event/gathering that he feels comfortable in - and surely there must be girls there. I am always amazed at the meetups that exist for all kinds of unusual interests. Generally, I feel (and have seen others) find it easiest to meet new people and open up when there is common ground. Amy __ I don't think I have any advice that is worth passing along to Brolin. He has Asperger's and will struggle with social interactions. It's not hopeless for him, but he needs to find a way to meet other women who have similar struggles as him. He needs to find someone who understands and admires his attention to details, for example. I think he probably already knows this, so I wouldn't have any new or different advice for him, unfortunately. I hope he is in therapy for his Asperger's and can learn to live on his own!! (That's step one. Girls and dating come after that.) I have a lot of sympathy for those on the autism spectrum because of my niece. Social interactions are so hard for them! Mary Beth __ [Commentary by Ben: I agree with MB that Brolin needs to find someone who admires the traits he has, but I don't think that it will necessarily be someone with similar struggles. It could be someone complementary, someone who will balance him. I know a few geek guys who have found that their soul mate is a spiritual, intuitive, earth-mother-type, well grounded in her body and emotions.] __ Wow. Two thoughts come to mind: 1) It sounds like he has no in-person friends. I think that you need to get the hang of friendship before you can have a romantic relationship. Also, once you have friends, some of them know geekgirls, and you can meet them that way. He might have good luck with local gaming groups or conventions (Comicon, Defcon, PAX, JavaOne...). 2) I'm not sure how well his Asperger's is being treated. That's going to be a prerequisite for a relationship, like hygiene. If he's always feeling overwhelmed and unable to make choices, there might be a medication that could help. Good luck to him. I realize it must have been very difficult for him to ask for help, and I hope he continues to try. Jina __ After reading Jina's email, it occurred to me that you probably could craft a nice email to him with some friendly advice. He definitely needs to be in treatment for his Asperger's. After a brief search on the internet, I found www.grasp.org which is geared towards adults on the autism spectrum. This site could help him find therapists or others who can help him. By sending his long email, Brolin has indicated that he needs help and that his life is not what he wants it to be. Getting treatment can help him live on his own and feel better about himself. And, getting better connected with support groups and adult autism networks, he might be able to meet a girl whom he could date. But, it's one step at a time for him. Treatment and support groups first, girls second. :) Mary Beth __ Hi Brolin, My friend Ben forwarded my your post, and I have many thoughts about it. Some are in direct response to questions you pose, and some are responses to what I perceive as the underlying context. If my perceptions are wrong, I apologize. Hopefully some of what I say will be useful to you. As a woman with a background in philosophy and computer science, I can definitely say that there are women who relate to your interests and personality. I am older than you, but there are women your age who love xkcd, and share your other interests as well. Are there as many women as there are men who overlap closely with your description? Unlikely, but that's not a problem. A good relationship is one where each person gets the other enough to appreciate them and relate to them, but where they can also learn from their partner's different interests and ways of thinking. So how do you meet women with whom you may be compatible? Well, it's a question of luck, but only in the sense that you make your own luck. On any given occasion when you try to meet someone, it may well not pan out, but the point is to increase the frequency of such encounters. Joining local groups which interest you, and attending local events is a good way to start. Online dating sites may be worth exploring as well, especially if you feel more comfortable expressing yourself via the keyboard.
Re: OT: Where can I meet a female companion with similar interests and personality /in person/?
Hello Brolin, Wow. That's quite a bit of information. I have many thoughts about your specific endeavours, moving out, priority inversion, social anxiety, finding a geek girl, but I think there may be a broader, more important goal that you're missing. It occurs to me that you may find it helpful to learn moderation and appreciation of imperfection. Western culture doesn't have a long tradition of doing that, so I recommend studying Eastern philosophies. Particularly, Buddhism, wabisabi, and mindfulness meditation. Mindfulness meditation is the art of focusing one's mind on what is actually present now and letting go of thoughts. For example, try sitting still and just paying attention to the sensations in your body, such as your breath going in and out, without thinking, without judging. It's a lot harder than it sounds, but it is a skill that can be learned, and it can be valuable for people like us who can get lost in our head-space. --Ben On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Hello list, Like most of the members of this list (AFAICT from the first names I recognise as sex/gender-specific), I am male. I am 22 and still live with my parents. I have never lived away from my parents. I am planning to hire a support worker to help me live away from my parents (I have another meeting later today) because I continue to indefinitely defer trying to live away from my parents. I named my form of procrastination “priority inversion” because what is, in practical terms, my lowest priority, becomes my highest priority. For example, I choose to spend my free time playing with my computers, including my FreeRunner, instead of learning about human biology and/or nutrition, which will affect me every day of my life, and at least trying to live away from my parents. When I say I play with my computers, I do not mean gaming: I almost never play games anymore. Even when I decide I want to play a game again, I spend all of my time reading about games, viewing screenshots and videos, and trying to decide which of the endless games I should play (or rather, obtain if I do not already have a copy and make work on my PC) instead of actually playing a game. I feel like I am always overwhelmed and/or overloaded with information and stimulation in the Too Much Information Age. I always feel like the NET Effect is that there is Never Enough Time because time flies faster than ever because I am always overthinking, overwhelmed with overchoice, etc. I recognise my mind is a word and pattern recognition engine, which is constantly adding new stimulations/experiences to its database. I have Asperger’s Syndrome, but can function much better, at least in terms of interacting with people in person, than when I was in high school, for example. I used to often feel like I had social anxiety disorder because I would get so anxious and/or worried even when calling someone on the phone (on my parents’s landline because I did not have a cell phone until 2008) that I could not speak clearly enough for the person on the other end to understand me, so I would always have to repeat myself at least once for every turn of the conversation. I am a purist and have been called the most pedantic person in the world by Jamie Zawinski, of Lucid Emacs/XEmacs and Netscape/Mozilla fame. :) Imprecise usage and redundancy bothers me even if know what is meant from the context. For example, I am bothered by people mentioning a “standard” transmission in a vehicle (it is a manual transmission. Standard depends on the vehicle. Automatic is standard for some vehicles.), calling an LCD monitor (a flat panel) a “flat screen” (high-end CRTs have flat glass too!), common redundancies, such as PIN number, ATM machine, LCD display, people who assume all cars use crappy gasoline engines and use fuel-specific terms, such as gas station (it is a service station), gas tank (it is a fuel tank), gas pedal (it is an accellerator), gas pump (I have used a diesel pump at Shell that told me to “select octane” instead of “select ctane” (sp?) or “select fuel grade”. My car has a diesel, not gasoline, engine. I have been highly influenced by my father, Brian Empey. Brian is a Professional Engineer (Electrical Engineering). He founded Technical Solutions Inc. (Techsol) in 1996 with his second wife (my step-mom), Karen Empey (nee Schellenberg). Techsol is an embedded computer hardware company specialising in Linux on ARM architecture. I am very fortunate to be able to work at Techsol. I am a Linux + Windows System Administrator/Web master/IT person/general computer person. I think my responsibiles are more important than my title(s). I know I am very dependent on my parents, but at least I own my own car (which I bought from my dad), have a Class 7 driver’s licence (the Novice stage of the Graduated Licensing Program in British Columbia, Canada. I live in the
Re: ZAGG invisible sheild for Neo Freerunner
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Mikhail Umorinmike...@gmail.com wrote: It's a bit of a pain, especially the full body one. You need steady hands and a lot of patience. The installation takes about an hour, then ZAGG recommends to leave it overnight. Then the plastic snugs like a glove on the device. It's shiny, so it looks a little cheesy (but my wife thinks the opposite). Also, Zagg undersupplies the SHIELD spray for the full body option, so use sparingly, but liberally when installing the screen piece because any fingerprints will be visible (like on mine :) ) -- even if you wash you hands really well. Mikhail is completely correct. Leave a lot of time for doing the install. If you want it done right, it is not a quick task. Personally, I did the back cover first (several times because I kept messing up with bubbles and such) so that I'd have practice before doing the screen. Fortunately, it is true that you can remove and reinstall the shield before it dries. Just be careful when you're pulling it up not to let the sticky sides touch, it left a small blur on the corner of my screen that I can't get off. (I'll probably exchange my front piece with Zagg, since I'm something of a perfectionist.) As for the SHIELD spray, I also ran out very fast and had to search Zagg's FAQ. They say that it is mostly water and that you can refill the spray bottle from the tap. Unfortunately, they don't mention what the other secret ingredient is. (Thousand island dressing?) Someone mentioned that the shield is a dust magnet. That's probably true, but my screen stays cleaner since I'm no longer worried about wiping it off on something possibly abrasive, like my shirt. --Ben P.S. Mikhail is also correct that the shiny look is cheesy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: 2009/7/27 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. That could be interpreted as meaning I frequently forget to go to bed too. Heh. I actually *do* have an alarm that goes off every night to remind me to go to bed. I got the idea from an old Superman Bizarro World comic. No, the phones I have do not wake me. A phone that literally rings (i.e., has a real bell instead of an electronic tone) may wake me, though. :) I suggest this rotary ring, which I use as my default ring tone: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=15826 I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. In this case you literally meant off the hook, but at first I thought you meant “no longer responsible for”. :) Yeah, language is funny. For some reason the slang in my part of the US (I don't know about elsewhere) has evolved so that off the hook now means fantastic! Perhaps a confusion with off the charts? To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? Yes, this is what I was thinking of. I am afraid to leave battery-powered devices plugged in (line-powered) all the time, though, because doing so seems to kill laptop batteries. That's a good question, whether constant charging shortens the lifespan of a Li battery, which I'm sure someone more knowledgeable on this list will answer. From personal experience, I believe that to be true, but my feeling is that I'll just keep it charging and replace the batteries once in a while. They're not as expensive as laptop batteries. Also, I've heard that lithium batteries have a limited lifespan even when they're not being used. A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. Or if I am using the phone. ;) It should inject audio into the conversation. Pardon me for interrupting, this is your Freerunner talking. I just wanted to let you know that it is now past your bedtime. ;-) --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Brolin Empeybro...@brolin.be wrote: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently forget to do so. Hmmm... I think the solution depends on why you're shutting down your cell phone at night. To prevent calls from waking you? Try a cron job that changes your default ring style to silent (and resets it in the morning). To save electricity, and thus the earth from global climate change? I'd use a cron job that calls shutdown, but that first checks if your phone is off the hook (well, I guess we already know the Freerunner is off the hook). I'd probably also check if there had been any recent screen input. To save the battery in case you forgot to plug it in? A cron job would work to shut it down, but you could add a couple lines in the script to skip it if the battery is already charging. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
I've got a simple success to share. My nine year old niece and her family expressed an interest in geocaching. I said, Oh, my phone does GPS! which led to this series of Happy Moko Moments: * Used Midori over GPRS to create an account on geocaching.com and to look up the latitude and longitude of the closest cache to their home. * Showed a map with TangoGPS. * Downloaded the SimpleCaching application from opkg.org. * As a family outing, we followed the arrow in SimpleCaching to a park, to a statue named Sensei, to a nearby tree, and finally to a rock under the tree. * Found the hidden treasure, put some items inside. * My niece and her family had a lot of fun, all thanks to my neo. --Ben On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: There seems to be a repeated theme of people posting how crappy the Freerunner is and how nothing works for them. Usually a number of people then jump on the thread and talk about how the FR works well for them. I like to try turning that around and start a thread for people to talk about their successes. Maybe if we get enough good ones we can push it onto the wiki. Here are a few of my own: - the GPS with tangogps has been really useful to me a number of times, especially on business trips - Pidgin over GPRS has come in quite handy several times, either when I didn't have my laptop with me, or didn't have wifi coverage - It's very useful as a PDF reader - with the high-res screen I've been able to read documents while walking or while standing on a metro or bus, when getting out a laptop wouldn't have worked well. - I was able to show off the client software from my 'day job' - a quite complex j2se application - running on a cell phone, which definitely impressed people. What are your successes with the Freerunner? Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tango and the missing map tiles
Finally got around to trying Rask's one-liner. Thanks for posting it,
it worked great once I modified it to work with BusyBox's version of
wget. I also had to fake the UserAgent; apparently openstreetmaps.org
is no longer allowing wget. I've appended my modifications, which
should work on any system, below.
--Ben
#!/bin/sh
# Look for OpenStreetMap tiles that are size zero (TangoGPS has a bug)
# and download the correct tile. Based on a one-line script by
# Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk, June 2009,
# modified by Ben Wong to work with BusyBox's wget.
cd ~/Maps/OSM || echo Cannot cd to ~/Maps/OSM 2 exit 1
find -size 0c -print \
| cut -c3- \
| awk ' { print http://tile.openstreetmap.org/; $0 -O $0; }' \
| xargs -n3 wget -U UpdateTiles
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Rask Ingemann
Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote:
Running Yaouh! didn't update the about 15 empty map tiles I had. What I
did afterwards to update them was:
$ (cd ~/Maps/OSM find -size 0c -print) | cut -c3- | \
awk ' { print http://tile.openstreetmap.org/; $0; }' | \
(cd ~/Maps/OSM xargs wget --force-directories --no-host-directories -N )
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Re: tango and the missing map tiles
Oops, that didn't work. That's what I get for trying to cleanup the
error checking before posting. This version actually works.
#!/bin/sh
# Look for OpenStreetMap tiles that are size zero (TangoGPS has a bug)
# and download the correct tile. Based on a one-line script by
# Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk, June 2009,
# Modified by Ben Wong to work with BusyBox's wget.
cd ~/Maps/OSM || exit 1
find -size 0c -print \
| cut -c3- \
| awk ' { print http://tile.openstreetmap.org/; $0 -O $0; }' \
| xargs -n3 wget -U UpdateTiles
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Ben Wonglists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote:
Finally got around to trying Rask's one-liner. Thanks for posting it,
it worked great once I modified it to work with BusyBox's version of
wget. I also had to fake the UserAgent; apparently openstreetmaps.org
is no longer allowing wget. I've appended my modifications, which
should work on any system, below.
--Ben
#!/bin/sh
# Look for OpenStreetMap tiles that are size zero (TangoGPS has a bug)
# and download the correct tile. Based on a one-line script by
# Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk, June 2009,
# modified by Ben Wong to work with BusyBox's wget.
cd ~/Maps/OSM || echo Cannot cd to ~/Maps/OSM 2 exit 1
find -size 0c -print \
| cut -c3- \
| awk ' { print http://tile.openstreetmap.org/; $0 -O $0; }' \
| xargs -n3 wget -U UpdateTiles
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Rask Ingemann
Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote:
Running Yaouh! didn't update the about 15 empty map tiles I had. What I
did afterwards to update them was:
$ (cd ~/Maps/OSM find -size 0c -print) | cut -c3- | \
awk ' { print http://tile.openstreetmap.org/; $0; }' | \
(cd ~/Maps/OSM xargs wget --force-directories --no-host-directories -N )
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Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hallmad...@li.org wrote: Hello mobiphil, and use those phones as reference...Again, M800 has keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only 64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device... Stating this you show that you completely misunderstood the goals of the Openmoko project. Porting the Linux kernel and having the upper levels of software interface available on a phone designed and manufactured by Samsung is completely different than having software running on hardware platform that is completely community driven, open in design and manufacturing specification, changeable and freely licensable to many manufacturers. Thank you, Maddog, for your trenchant comment. I was having trouble verbalizing a response to mobiphil, but you've hit it exactly. To consider Openmoko a failure for having lower GPU performance is to misunderstand what Openmoko is about. From my point of view, Openmoko is a success that is still unfolding. I have exactly what I want, a free as in freedom phone and an active community of people to hack with. That's what I paid my money for. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:54:15 am Ben Wong wrote: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 Are you sure that mdbus call is correct I got two different error messages I have no idea what the pending_return [...] is deprecated error means, but it doesn't prevent the mdbus call from working. Service name not found means that you're not running frameworkd, I think. I actually received the same error the first time I tried it on SHR-unstable as well. I fixed it by restarting frameworkd: /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart Oddly, the next time I rebooted into SHR-unstable, frameworkd started correctly on its own. By the way, running mdbus -s, with no other options, lists what services are on the D-Bus. You can grep for freesmartphone to see if the services provided by frameworkd are there. --Ben r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Deviceorg.freesmartph one.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Service name not found r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Deviceorg.freesmartp hone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Object name not found Now I may just be doing it wrong but can someone check it for me? And this line will show you the current volume: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during a call. I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all. And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion? --Ben On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauermic...@vanille-media.de wrote: FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ). :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than only freedom can make security more secure. Karl Popper ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
Mickey: It seems a very bad idea to default to maximum volume if it causes distortion. I'm not sure yet that that's the sole audio problem in SHR-unstable, but I can say that when I turned the speaker volume down to what it was in SHR-testing (68%), I was understood perfectly, for the first time, by Google's voice recognition (1-800-GOOG-411). For anyone wondering how to use D-Bus to set the volume to 68%, you can do it by cutting and pasting this line: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 And this line will show you the current volume: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during a call. I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all. And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion? --Ben On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauermic...@vanille-media.de wrote: FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ). :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
Mickey: Please set the default volume back down. I just confirmed (by talking to a human) that when the Speaker Volume is set to 100%, the other party hears an annoying echo of their own voice. Thank you, --Ben P.S. I don't know if it matters, but I'm using a Revision A06 Freerunner, buzz-fixed. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Ben Wonglists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote: Mickey: It seems a very bad idea to default to maximum volume if it causes distortion. I'm not sure yet that that's the sole audio problem in SHR-unstable, but I can say that when I turned the speaker volume down to what it was in SHR-testing (68%), I was understood perfectly, for the first time, by Google's voice recognition (1-800-GOOG-411). For anyone wondering how to use D-Bus to set the volume to 68%, you can do it by cutting and pasting this line: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume 68 And this line will show you the current volume: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.GetSpeakerVolume Please experiment with different values by changing the volume during a call. I'm interested to know what values work the best for you all. And does 100% actually work for anybody without distortion? --Ben On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauermic...@vanille-media.de wrote: FWIW, against my personal experience (where this setting lead to suboptimal results), people have forced me to uplevel the speaker volume in the phone to the maximum in ogsmd. It's very possible that this contributes to the distortion. Try lowering it, e.g. via org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.SetSpeakerVolume( percentage ). :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner A7, GSM 850?
Has the GSM-900 version been determine to work just as well in North America? Well, my international version works fine in North America. I actually asked T-mobile (my carrier) and they said that they don't use 850MHz in their network. They said they *might* have roaming partners who use 850, but even that is unlikely. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [omgps] collect feature requests
Hi Laszlo, Thanks for all the hard work you've been putting in. I have two questions: 1) If the filesystem is crashing, doesn't it seem like we should fix the filesystem instead of making a new file format? 2) You mentioned that fsck takes an hour for you. I'm having trouble reproducing that. It always takes less than a minute for me. Here is what I'm doing, let me know if I'm testing it incorrectly: a) tangogps find /media/mmcblk0p5/Maps | wc -l b) Download maps (+4 levels) in tangogps (just to further stress it) c) While that is running, I remove all power sources, causing a crash d) At reboot, the filesystem is automatically recovered (I'm using ext3 journaling) e) I force a fsck and check how long it takes, like so: umount /media/mmcblk0p5 time e2fsck -f /dev/mmcblk0p5 For me, it's always 42 seconds. --Ben P.S. Did you try that clock speed suggestion from BillK? On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Noone experienced whole filesystem crash because of *that* many open file descriptors? It would be really strange. ITs really simple to test it: While using tangogps/omgps remove the battery. Almost 90% percent and the whole filesystem crashes (the tiles are no more availables) You can test it, with: find /home/root/Maps -name *.png |wc -l I bet it will hang. So I request the following feature: Instead of having 75000 file for 118MB, compress the tiles into reasonable 1MB files. So 118 files in total in place of 75000 files. Anyone agree? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
and if you are carrying the FR in a pocket, yes it gets a lock most of the time, but the track wobbles all over the place - up to a hundred meters. And if driving through an urban canyon, similar track errors can occur. Ive wanted a small external powered antenna for some time to improve this. I've noticed the same wobbles, but only when I'm not moving very quickly. Does anybody know if setting the GPS to Pedestrian instead of Car mode helps? Or is an antenna the only solution? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone know a store that sells FreeRunner accs in the US
I have redone it several times, but no luck. I also hoped, that it will disappear, after couple of day. But didnt happened either. I also used up all the spray (all the 20ml spray;-) To have a clue how it looks like, here is a picture: http://khiraly.googlepages.com/IMG_3882.JPG Yikes! Is that lint stuck under the shield? --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Michael Zanettimichael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. Yes, SHR-unstable is the culprit. I'm currently dual booting SHR-testing and SHR-unstable, and SHR-unstable is utterly unusable because people can't understand me. (Which I'm not complaining about, by the way. It is called unstable for a reason.) I'd bet that if you revert to SHR-testing, everything will be hunky-dory again. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu_download error -62
Do you have a 64-bit machine? It sounds like -62 is error message one gets when using the 32-bit dfu-util. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#.231_Tools_for_flashing:_DFU-util_and_NeoTool By the way, you may have tried to Google for 'dfu download error -62' and didn't find the answer. The reason is that the minus sign tells Google to NOT show any web pages that contain the number sixty-two. --Ben On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Tim Vangehugtentimvangehug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Im currently experiencing some trouble. I get a dfu_download error -62 when I tried to flash the kernel and the root filesystem. Any ideas on how to solve this? Best Regards Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr, others?] Flash drive mounted with sync option
Hi! Can anyone help me to figure out if the following behavior is a bug or not?
Under SHR (both testing and unstable), drives and partitions not
listed in fstab are automounted using the sync option which is
*very* slow and possibly damaging to flash media.
Slowness: While attempting to untar a file onto a partition mounted
using the sync option, my card could only handle 4KBps. When I
removed the sync option, the data rate increased by a hundred fold to
400KBps.
Damage: Quote from the man page for mount (from Debian):
sync All I/O to the file system should be done synchronously. In case
of media with limited number of write cycles (e.g. some flash
drives) sync may cause life-cycle shortening.
I'd like to submit a bug report with a suggestion to remove the -o
sync option, but before I do, I wonder if anybody can tell me if
there is a valid reason to be using sync on all automounted drives.
--Ben
P.S. I believe this bug/feature is controlled by /etc/udev/scripts/mount.sh:
automount() {
! test -d /media/$name mkdir -p /media/$name
if ! $MOUNT -t auto -o sync $DEVNAME /media/$name
then
#logger mount.sh/automount $MOUNT -t auto $DEVNAME
\/media/$name\ failed!
rm_dir /media/$name
else
logger mount.sh/automount Auto-mount of [/media/$name] successful
touch /tmp/.automount-$name
fi
}
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Re: [shr, others?] Flash drive mounted with sync option
Since users don't like to manually unmount their devices, and developers really don't like when users blame them for unrecoverable data loss, default is to mount sync. Thank you for reminding me of that. You might be right that it is was a developer's choice, but if so it was a very poor design decision. The benefit of avoiding an fsck is quite modest, especially with journaled file systems. And, unless there's something I'm missing, a sync'd flash filesystem is unusably slow on the Freerunner. Here is an example of how I installed SHR onto a free partition on my SD card today: zcat openmoko-shr-image-*-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz | ssh -v r...@192.168.0.202 tar -C /media/mmcblk0p2 -xf - With sync: All day to untar the distribution (no exact time, xfr canceled) Without sync: 570 seconds to untar the distribution --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: input method : dasher
That's a pretty awesome idea. It'd make typing fun. --Ben On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Fabian Killus fab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: I had the same idea over and over again. I thought it would be cool to have such a thing controlled by the accelerometers ;) I also took a quick look at dasher's sources. Maybe it would be better in this case to write a new lightweight app specially designed for the freerunner. On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:55:44 +0200 swap38 swa...@openmoko-fr.org wrote: Hi, At the end of this article [1], there's a comment about Dasher [2]. It's a strange but simple funny input method that can be very fast (39 words per minute). Dasher support numerous languages and the source code is open. A version for mobile device (ARMv4 / Windows Mobile) is in developed by Glen Femandes. Do you think Dasher can be useful for the Neo Freerunner ? [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/336787/ [2] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Joerg Lippmannjl_li...@donalbain.de wrote: Then the Freerunner is not for you. It may sound harsh, but it's definitely *not* suitable for daily use. Period. Brolin, I must respectfully disagree with Joerg's advice to you. There are flaws, including the ones Joerg points out, but they do not necessarily make the Freeruner unsuitable as a daily phone. I think it depends on the person. I use mine daily as my only phone and it works well for me. From your description of yourself, I suspect you would be happy with a Freerunner as well, as long as you don't expect it to do everything you want out of the box. Battery life? Yes, Joerg is correct that it's mediocre. I do charge it every night, but that's not a big deal, especially since it charges off of any USB port. The sound quality is terrible according to Joerg, but that has not been my experience. Perhaps I'm just lucky, having bought a later model unit, but people have actually been telling me how crystal clear I sound compared to my old Samsung phone. The one thing I don't like about the sound on the Freerunner is that the default volume is too low, but it's not been enough of a problem for me to even look into how to increase it. Joerg also mentioned that the device is lame. I'm not quite sure what he means. The Freerunner is certainly lacking features that some proprietary phones boast, such as a multitouch interface and 3G/4G data transfer. Since I live in a big city and have WiFi nearly everywhere I go, the lack of 3G is not a disadvantage for me. And multitouch? Well, somehow I survive without. The one thing that jumps out at me in your request, Brolin, is keeping your SMS messages on the microSD card instead of the SIM. I know that the SHR distribution, which I'm using, stores everything on the SIM by default. Perhaps David Ford's improved SMS app will do what you want? Alternatively, if you are happy with simply archiving your SMS to a text file, David Ford sent out a one line script to do so about a month ago. (I can dig it up if you need.) --Ben 2009/6/17 David Murrell dmurr...@waikato.ac.nz Fundamentally, at this point, my Openmoko Freerunner fails the Not Interested in Technology - Significant Other Acceptance Procedure, otherwise known NIT-SOAP. That is not a problem for me because I am single. :) P.S. You may not be single for long. One little known feature of the Freerunner is that it is an Ultra-Powerful Magnet for Attractive People. They will sidle up to you and exclaim, OMG! Is that a Debian box in your pocket?! ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US triband vs EU triband
Wow, thanks for checking that out. I had no idea that was even possible. I'm in the US but I have a world version (900/1800/1900) for when I travel. Unfortunately, the network I'm on (T-mobile) doesn't use 850 anywhere in the US, so I can't contribute similar tests. Oh wait, maybe I can. Does anyone know the command (dbus or AT) to scan for available networks and query which ones are on the 850MHz band? I won't be able to join, but I can at least let you all know if it works and maybe even what the signal strength is. --Ben On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Joerg Reisenweberjo...@openmoko.org wrote: I just confirmed basic functionality of 850/1800/1900 devices (US Freerunner) for 900MHz networks. RF sensitivity is poor, but sufficient for areas with good coverage. For Germany a US device (850/1800/1900) worked flawlessly with German operator T-Kom (in urban area), and rather poor with Vodafone. Both are 900MHz networks. Please notice I didn't yet check for the actual band used, so *if* T-Kom *and* Vodafone both had 1800MHz BTS here in the tested area, then this report might be moot. Anyway the result meets expected behaviour and 1800MHz BTS are not known for either operator. cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?
Well, when the salesperson tells you that they will not transfer the phone number unless you sign up for a contract there's not much you can do... At least, that's what I got. Which carrier told you that? I just transferred my number and didn't have to sign up for a contract with T-mobile. They didn't even try to sell me one when I told them I already had a phone. They also allowed me to transfer my number a couple weeks after activating the SIM, so I was able to have a temporary number for the Freerunner while I tested calling it with my old cell phone. On the other hand, Sprint, who I was switching from, did send me a huge bill for quitting before my contract expired, even though it had expired years ago. I called Sprint up and, to make a long story short, after I reminded them that they are big dummies, they apologized and dropped the charges. :-) --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
Does a particular model of invisibleSHIELD fit FR or you had to cut an oversized one to shape? There is an invisibleSHIELD model made just for the Freerunner: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php Price is $25 for full-body, $12 for just the screen. However, Zagg almost always has 20% off coupons available, if you're willing to spend a bit of timing searching the net. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
There is an invisibleSHIELD model made just for the Freerunner: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php Price is $25 for full-body, $12 for just the screen. However, Zagg almost always has 20% off coupons available, if you're willing to spend a bit of timing searching the net. Okay, to save you all some time, one of the current discount codes is PROTECT20. I just tested it and it works. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Ed Kapiteine...@kapitein.org wrote: With the full body cover, can you still easily remove the back cover to replace the uSD card/batery/SIM ? Yes, the shield comes precut in pieces that fit the front back and sides. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: How much is Fr SAR ? In another thread on this list somebody mentioned that the specific absorption rate for the Freerunner is average, not significantly higher or lower than any other cell phone. Specifically, the Neo FreeRunner SAR tests at 1.07 W/kg GSM and 1.17 W/kg DCS. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td833107 I do not advise you to fix the Freerunner yourself. Just purchase a buzz-fixed version. Would you explain more ?why ? I did not know that the buzz-fixed version is more expensive. Still, I *strongly* suggest that you not attempt to solder the Freerunner yourself. The circuit is very small and you need special tools. An ordinary hand soldering iron will not work. Have you soldered cell-phones before? If not, I recommend not treating your Freerunner as a learning experience. Remember the old adage, experience is proportional to the amount of equipment destroyed. If you still want to do the buzz fix yourself, I think Paul's suggestion was excellent, try soldering an SMD (Surface Mount Device) onto an old video card first. It is long time just debian based have been used on pc ,there is not problems and knowing linuxs . Wonderful! You will feel at home on your Freerunner. but important question , does FR catch owner time each day for any reason ?e.g for almost all activity with FR should users spend time each day ? I am sorry. I don't understand your question. Are you asking if the Freerunner requires daily maintenance? If so, the answer is no. You can simply use the Freerunner as a phone, if you wish. The pouch protects the screen from getting scratched up So why dont you use invisible shield ? I did not have an InvisibleShield before. I have ordered one now and I may stop using the pouch. On the other hand, the InvisibleShield looks to be a sticker and it might peel off in my pocket. just trousers has packets ,How much are lenght and width sizes of FR ? The Freerunner is a bit thicker than the latest cellphones, but comfortably fits in my blue jeans (denim trousers) front pocket, even with the pouch. I've also carried the Freerunner easily in the breast pockets of my shirt and coat. Do you advice using invisble shield ,wont invisble shield make screen sensitivity to be decreased ? I've read, and believe, that sensitivity will be the same. The InvisibleShield is extremely thin (0.2mm). The Freerunner I purchased came with a clear plastic sheet covering the screen that was thicker than an InvisibleShield. The stylus worked fine through that sheet with no apparent loss of sensitivity. --Ben P.S. In America we are wishing you, and all Iranians, a happy outcome to your country's recent troubles. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some questions before buying FreeRunner
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:29 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mean without that 47k resistor ,Fr will detect current lower or higher ?what will happen after that (detect incorrectly) . Without the 47k resistor, it will charge more slowly so as to not overload the charger. However, your Freerunner will probably come with the correct charger. Mine did. Another questions ; 1- Should pouch be bought ,Without pouch ,ISn't there any problem with carring FR with ourself without pouch ? I wouldn't have paid extra for the pouch, but my Freerunner came with one and I use it. I keep it in my pocket, clipped to a belt loop. The pouch protects the screen from getting scratched up with the other random things I have in my pocket. I also use the pouch to store my stylus, which would get lost pretty quickly otherwise. (Suggestion for whoever designs the next Openmoko Pouch: Include a small pocket or loop on the outside for a stylus.) 3- So ,do you advice to fix FR ourslef ? is there any common problems for those want to fix their self ? I do not advise you to fix the Freerunner yourself. Just purchase a buzz-fixed version. 3-What other things and issues ,Do you advice to be attended before and while buying FR ? If you do not yet have GNU/Linux on your desktop computer, I recommend that you start now. It is not strictly necessary, but it will make using your Freerunner easier and more enjoyable. You may also want to join a local Linux User Group (LUG). Here are some starting points: http://tehlug.org/http://shirazlug.ir/http://kishlug.ir/ http://parsix.org/http://ubuntu.ir/http://technotux.org/ --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli: correct pronunciation
I was kind of hoping Paroli was Italian for parolee, a convict who's been let out of jail early on condition of good behavior. That is, someone who's (mostly) free without having to commit a jail break first. ;-) --Ben On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM, tammaro pamdirac palombopamm...@gmail.com wrote: I read in the FAQ page of paroli project [1] that Paroli is an Esperanto word. how to pronounce Paroli in Esperanto? This site have the answer :) http://traduku.net/parolu/#parole/?l= c [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/faq/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks alot for your attentions ; So there is a persian layer yes ?so is not possible to change layer in another way except input methode suchlike a command or a script ? I'll be thankfull if anyone answer the above question ? and 2- Is arabic ready and complete ? Yes, the Arabic keyboard layout works, but you have to install a package like so: opkg install http://www.opkg.org/packages/illume-keyboards-arabic_0.1_armv4t.ipk However, when writing an SMS the letters don't connect with each other (as is standard with the Arabic alphabet). This might just be a problem with the way my Freerunner displays fonts. The SMS you send will probably look fine on your friend's telephone. There is a Persian keyboard layout listed at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume but the link is broken. Hopefully someone else on this mailing list will know where it can be found. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get started with Openmoko phone?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Mikemike...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Rene -- I just ordered the freerunner -- very exciting! Excellent. You may want to check the GSM firmware version when you get it. I received my phone recently and it had an old firmware on it (version 8 instead of 11, I think). The phone mostly worked, but I couldn't do GPRS until I flashed the GSM firmware. Here's the page for how to update it: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Note that, although the web page describes the procedure as a lobotomy, it's not nearly so scary, even using the step-by-step method, which I did. Even easier, there's a microSD image you can download that automates the procedure for you. By the way, the advice to just buy a SIM card instead of a whole plan is the right one. That way you won't be locked into a year long contract. I'm using T-mobile and it works great; data is unlimited and the price is fair. I've heard T-mobile's coverage is not as good as ATT's in the US, but it hasn't been a problem for me. My only complaint is that ping times are often over 1000ms, and I'm not even sure that that's T-mobile's fault. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
Thanks alot for your attention ; Would you send a farsi sms to me ? to this number 00989131561030 . To know if sms will look fine here or not . Okay, I've sent you an SMS. However, I don't know if my carrier (T-mobile) allows me to send SMS outside of the United States. Please let us know if you receive the message and if it looks okay. Thanks, --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner's Future
My biggest disappointment has been the fact that my Openmoko Freerunner (which I've had since helping form the Austin buying group) is still not _nearly_ as reliable as any cheap simple handset I can get for 10% of the cost. Not to disagree, I'd like to share that in the short time I've been using my Freerunner as my only phone it has been much, MUCH, more reliable than my previous smart phone. I had a Samsung SPH-N400 which, besides having some incredibly brain dead bugs, which I could go on for hours about, had terrible problems with non-reentrant code. That is, when two events would happen nearly simultaneously, say answering the phone and unplugging it from the power, it would often crash. I even managed to get it to crash by simply pressing the same button too rapidly. I got very practiced at removing and replacing the battery quickly. Now mind you, the N400 is a phone that was offered by a major carrier (Sprint) in the US and was supposedly fully supported. I exchanged the N400 several times and also had them try flashing different firmware on it. It didn't help, it simply shifted the bugs around. The Freerunner had (has?) great potential, but we couldn't realize that potential without basic reliable functionality. If the concerted efforts of many talented (in some cases even paid) engineers couldn't achieve that basic milestone, it seems unlikely that it will be achieved by a loosely-organized group of unpaid (and demoralized) volunteers. The present tense is correct, the Freerunner *has* great potential. It is still the only device even close to being a _Free_ phone, and it will reach that in time. As for what can be achieved by a loosely-organized group of unpaid volunteers... well, do you really need me to list all the Open Source success stories which started with even less than we have? I believe the Freerunner will be a success story. The freeing of the cell phone is a revolution on the order of the personal computer revolution. The only question is, Will the Freerunner be more like the MITS Altair 8800, which led by inspiration or will it be like the IBM PC, whose framework was widely copied to become a de facto standard? --Ben Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:28 PM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: I was a c++ PHP programmer before but now i'm not ; and should someone be a pro programmer to use openmoko ? You do not need to be a professional programmer to use the Freerunner. How about keyboard? Is it possible to use farsi or at least arabic key board without problem? That's something I don't know. You may have to create one yourself. so how did you send that message ? you can test with arabic keyboard . I did not type in the message. Instead I used a web browser to view a page that was written in Farsi, selected some text, copied it, and then pasted the text into an SMS message to myself. what is input method ? Input method just means a way of typing characters that are not on your keyboard. For example, in Debian GNU/Linux, one can run this command to use a standard US keyboard to type Persian[1] using the Iranian standard for keyboards[2]: setxkbmap -v -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us,ir -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -option grp_led:caps When I run that on my desktop computer, I am then able to hit ALT+SHIFT to toggle between Farsi and English input. Now when I type ABCabc123 on my keyboard I get ؤژشذز۱۲۳. Of course, that doesn't help you on the Freerunner, which doesn't have a physical keyboard. Someone (perhaps you?) needs to design a Farsi onscreen keyboard. Another person on this thread said that it was relatively easy, but I don't know having never done it. --Ben [1] I copied the setxkbmap example from http://faculty.washington.edu/heer/enablingarabic.htm , with the slight modification that I changed the layout from us,ar to us,ir. That is, I'm using the Iranian layout instead of the Arabic. [2] ISIRI 2901:1994 http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/keyboards/persian.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) Oh, neat. That's the way I had expected it to work. I think there may be a small bug. If I press in the empty part of the text box, nothing happens. I had to click very close to the insertion cursor to make the menu pop up. I'm surprised the text box widget doesn't treat any blank space at the end as being the same as the very last character of text. Is this a known bug/feature? Thanks for the tip! --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it works good for me ;x Do you have latest -unstable? Ah, that's my problem. I'm using shr-testing. Thanks, again! --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service
I know it's unlikely somebody will accidentally send their phone to Cranberry, PA, but I'd like to point out that the SDG page for the rework says, Send phone(s) to: SDG Systems Attn: FreeRunner Rework Program 114 W. Grandview Ave., Suite 1 Zelienople, PA 16063 --Ben On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Richyklemms...@gmail.com wrote: from the website: Location: SDG Systems, LLC 219 Glen Rape Road Cranberry Township, PA 16066 Seems to be in the USA, according to googleMaps. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 07:19, Max m...@darim.com wrote: Great to hear that... Btw, where do you actually situated?... at least information about continent you're in would greatly help in estimating shipment costs :) cheers, Max. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: boxar : New Audio Application (download or watch video)
Nice! There should be more fun applets like this. Do you have plans to make it run any faster? Right now there's significant lag before I hear the notes (perhaps due to ESD?). Also, the sound stutters whenever the pointer (my finger) moves, even if I'm not pressing a different note. Thanks for the nice port! --Ben On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM, RzR www.rzr.online.fr www.rzr.online...@gmail.com wrote: Dear openmoko users Here is an other Audio Application for Openmoko platform : Boxar is a kind of piano using the full surface of the touch screen to display scales It was created by Sampath Jagananthan on the Nokia n8x0 but I built it for the openmoko (GTA02 Running SHR) as well. Head to this page for download it or watch video demo : URL: http://rzr.online.fr/q/esd I'll make an other release if it can be supported on other OM distributions ... Find me online or contact: http://rzr.online.fr/contact.htm -- Related Obsession : http://rzr.online.fr/q/openmoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb0 vs eth0
i don't know which interface udev will assign to the neo.. for example when i connect it i get eth1, suddenly renamed to eth7 by udev, but am i sure it will always get eth7? I believe it depends on which distribution you run. Some distributions, like Debian, use a persistent-net-generator script which will always give a particular ethernet device a consistent name in /dev whenever it is plugged in. Personally, that drives me batty; I'm a tidy person and I don't like seeing my first ethernet card be named eth7 simply because I used several other cards in the distant past. But it's good for you in this case, your Freerunner should always have the same device name. The page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking explain how to setup nat and routing, but all the examples use usb0. The problem is that each different udev installation will assign a possibly different interface name to the neo, so what should one do? setup nat and routing for all the interfaces being attached? seems strange.. I just would like to see an example, because it's not clear to me, and i think for many like me.. Yes, the usb0/eth1/eth7 problem is very annoying from a documentation point of view. It would be nice to have a single example on the wiki which people can use without editing. I don't have the answer to that one, but I'd love to see it if someone else does. --Ben P.S. If you're using Debian, you can check the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to see the mappings between the MAC address and device name. I believe OpenMoko devices always have a MAC address that starts with 00:1F:11 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Ben Wong wrote: 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume. Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is not what the current volume is, but what it will be once it has finished processing all the button presses. This is an issue happening in several places in paroli. The interface is very honest in the sense that it only shows what actually happened. Of course this means that changes are visible a bit later than in other interfaces. Should this paradigm be changed? Yes, I believe so. As others have said, honesty includes not only the past but what is planned for the future. I think changing the gauge immediately (40%, 60%, 80%) but having it be grayed-out would be a good way to represent that the volume change is queued up for later action. 2e) When ending a call, pressing END CALL does light up the button, but then it unlights before the call is actually ended making one think it needs to be pressed again. I suggest changing the text to ENDING after the button has been pressed. The relates to the last point. Paroli could remove the call window as soon as the user ends the call and it could also stop all sounds and just don't worry whether or not the call is actually ended. I agree sth has to change here, which way is better a) showing that the call is ending and keeping the call window until the call is actually ended or b) closing the window right away and letting the user move on before the call is actually finished Plan A would be acceptable, but B would be better. The user interface should waste as little of the user's time as possible. However, plan B also sounds like it'd be tricky to do correctly. What happens if the user immediately tries to make another call (or use GPRS or SMS) and the previous call hasn't yet finished? Thanks for your detailed response, Mirko. I look forward to testing your next release. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: cronjobs
Did you try $cron-get_next_execution_time($cron_entry,[$ref_time]) ? --Ben On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:27 +0200, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: i need a script/program that will read a crontab line ( * * * * * some_action) and output the date and time the job will run. Does anyone know of such a tool? This way i can un-suspend the FR a few seconds prior to the start of that cron job. I already made a script that sort of works, but it is limmited at best and i hate to reinvent the wheel again. You might want to look at this: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Schedule-Cron Hi Alexey and all the others I did take a look at perl, but i am a real perl noob. This is what i have so far: #!/usr/bin/perl use Config::Crontab $event = new Config::Crontab::Event( -data = '*/5 3 * * 5,6 /bin/blech' ); print $event-minute . \n; print $event-hour . \n; print $event-dom . \n; print $event-datetime . \n; print $event-command . \n; print $event-dump . \n; And if i run that i get: */5 3 * */5 3 * * 5,6 /bin/blech */5 3 * * 5,6 /bin/blech Perhaps i am missing the obvious here. Is there someone out there who can make a script that can read a crontab line and give the time and date of the next time it will be executed ? output in the form: secs_since_epoch,-mm-dd,hh:mm,command would be *great* Many thanks in advance, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with gstreamer for python needed
Does gstreamer lock up when you use it from the command line?
Here's a little shell script that will call gstreamer to play any
media file. (This probably needn't to be said for something so
trivial, but this code has no copyright). You can use it like so:
playbin foo.ogg barf.mp3 /usr/local/share/music/Artists/Freezepop/*
--Ben
#!/bin/sh
# Simplistic gstreamer front-end.
# Ben Wong, May 2009
# Public Domain
# Usage: playbin [ file ... ]
#
# E.g., cd /usr/share/sounds; playbin *
# When the user hits ^C, wait a bit and then continue to next song.
inthandler () {
trap reallyexit INT
echo Skipping song. Hit ^C twice to quit.
sleep 1 || reallyexit # GNU sleep fails on SIGINT
trap inthandler INT
}
# If the user hits ^C while we're already in the INT handler, quit.
reallyexit () {
echo
exit 1
}
Main routine
trap inthandler INT
for f; do
case $f in
/*) # do nothing
;;
*) f=`pwd`/$f
;;
esac
echo gst-launch playbin ''uri=file://$f'' 2
gst-launch playbin uri=file://$f
done
# End of script
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Andreas Hennig
andreas.hennig@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All!
Does one of you have expirience with gstreamer?
I use gstreamer for my music player pyRok. Initialy it works fine but after a
while it locks up and i don't see a reason.
There is no error message ot something. The music just stops.
I compared pyRok with pythm but i cant see any difference regarding gstreamer.
PyRok uses pygame as UI. Maybe pygame interfeares with gstreamer somehow...
Maybe somebody have an idea...
rgds
Andreas
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Re: Om2009 testing release 4
Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since this is my only phone. Here are my issues, in order of importance: 1) Horrible audio distortion during calls. People tell me that I sound like I'm being played back over a blown-out speaker. I tried calling +1800GOOG411 (google's speech recognition phone directory) and it was unable to understand me. I bet this is something tweakable with the ALSA settings, but I'm surprised that Om2009t4 gets the default wrong when SHR-testing works fine. I don't know if it's relevant but I have an A6 model of the Freerunner. 2) There should be immediate feedback during all operations. 2a) When searching for a GSM signal, the Paroli interface is presented but frozen and there is no notification which is quite frustrating. Even just the simple word searching... would have helped. 2b) The suspend button should blink the LED immediately when waking up or suspending. Two seconds is too long to wait for feedback that a button has been pressed. 2c) From the contacts menu, when clicking on a phone number, a call is made but there is no visual indication of this until the Dialer program appears. The number should at least light up when clicked. 2d) There is too much latency between pressing the AUX button during a call and any indication that the system is working on changing the volume. Ideally, what I'd like the GUI to show me is not what the current volume is, but what it will be once it has finished processing all the button presses. 2e) When ending a call, pressing END CALL does light up the button, but then it unlights before the call is actually ended making one think it needs to be pressed again. I suggest changing the text to ENDING after the button has been pressed. 3) There is no way to reset Paroli if it gets wedged. At one point, it refused to allow me to make a call because it thought there was already one in progress. Not only was there not one, but the Dialer program didn't have the red END CALL button so I had no recourse but to reboot. I should mention that there are many things that I rather like about Om2009t4. I hope you find my comments constructive. I look forward to trying the next release of Om2009. --Ben Wong Seattle, WA FreeRunner A6, T-mobile P.S. A quick message on interface design from Douglas Adams: It's the wild colour scheme that freaks me, said Zaphod whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight, Every time you try to operate one of these weird black controls that are labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let you know you've done it. What is this? Some kind of galactic hyperhearse? The walls of the swaying cabin were also black, the ceiling was black, the seats -- which were rudimentary since the only important trip this ship was designed for was supposed to be unmanned -- were black, the control panel was black, the instruments were black, the little screws that held them in place were black, the thin tufted nylon floor covering was black, and when they had lifted up a corner of it they had discovered that the foam underlay also was black. Perhaps whoever designed it had eyes that responded to different wavelengths, offered Trillian. Or didn't have much imagination, muttered Arthur. Perhaps, said Marvin, he was feeling very depressed. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active Don't bother trying to do an opkg update opkg upgrade to do the upgrade. Chances are you won't get the dependencies right ( I know I didn't ). If you want to preserve your settings use the bind-home method and flash the full image. New in feeds callrec claws-mail dictator dillo midori mokomaze omnewrotate pyring sms-sentry webkit-efl New features Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd Better list handling More consistent interface New paroli-illume theme - only change so far is to remove desktop switcher - wanted volunteer to change analog clock to digital - wanted different colour scheme ( maybe white on black to match the rest of paroli ? ) Static MAC addresses for usb devices - usb networking will now show up as ethx on the host side please check dmesg on the host side Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time - DO NOT use this if you use
