#2081, and I am in total suspense!
Kyle
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I agree with Kent, the fundamental functionality needs to be rock solid.
OpenMoko isn't just representing free phones, it also is representing
(embedded) Linux. Before the consumer version is commercially advertised,
we need things like calling, SMS, and contact management.
On another note,
On 7/21/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad.
i think is good:
- can be a central point for new users (users NOT developers)
- following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler
- it can have email notification for reply
- could be a
is the
way to go.
When people start asking questions over and over again, a) ask them to
search the forums somewhat better next time, and b) make it a wiki article.
This is a pretty important issue...
opinions?
Kyle Bassett
On 7/22/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giles Jones ha
, it would be the guitar pick for the Neo and penguin-in-you-pocket
for OpenMoko.
Now only if we could throw together a NPO for mobile internet/telecom...
IMHO...
Kyle Bassett
Martin may have forced me to write one of my longest responses yet
My order number is #2081. I ordered on July 9, 12:37 AM EST (5:37 AM UTC).
I received the YES_I_DO request on July 13, 9:40 PM EST (2:40 AM UTC) . I
replied with YES_I_DO at July 13, 9:43 PM EST (2:43 AM UTC) and received
charge confirmation on July 21, 11:52 AM EST (4:52 PM UTC).
Hope this
Since there are no physical case changes, it would be great if they just
offered the board for sale to those that have already purchased the GTA01
kit for a discounted price. I purchased the Neo Advanced, and I really
can't afford to spend another 400-600+ on the newer version...
Kyle
On
Ok,
I set up a temporary forum until the guys @ openmoko get everything sorted
out. I'm using phpbb.
I think the forums are needed, for many of the reasons described in this
thread. Primarily, to have another sounding board for new openmoko/neo
users to just communicate, and keep this list
Hello Everyone,
I have set up the Official Unofficial OpenMoko forum on one of my websites.
I will continue to modify the forums as need be. All who would like to
utilize the forums are welcome!
Temporary Link, awaiting DNS resolution:
http://www.makeopensource.com/phpBB3/
Official Link:
Hello Again,
The forum is now in a usable condition. Please register and start posting!
If there are any concerns with the layout, please contact me and I will try
to accommodate...
-Kyle
On 7/24/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I have set up the Official
I have no problem with it, once they support phpBB 3.x
-Kyle
On 7/24/07, Brad Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you feel about installing OpenID support?
http://openid.phpbb.cc/
Kyle Bassett wrote:
Hello Again,
The forum is now in a usable condition. Please register and start
Hello Everyone,
forums.makeopensource.com is online and running.
For those of you who are unable to use the forums on a consistent basis, I
am actively searching for a solution for integrating the mailing lists,
NNTP, and forums; as one community.
I am setting up a second beta forum that has
Harald,
I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage or dollar
amount) that the GTA02 board kit would run compared to the expected $450
base price? I do prefer your idea about selling the GTA01Bv4 instead of
upgrading...some people would just rather do it themselves...bragging
Mark,
I love the idea! And maybe a feature like dumping the call to a BT headset
device if present. I am curious, I assume there would be a config option or
something, because how would it tell if you are the driver? A preference
per contact could be used as well. ie. I don't mind if my
have all the risk of some assembly problem?
So, 450 - 50 USD = 400 USD for a kit...
Am 29.07.2007 um 21:07 schrieb Kyle Bassett:
I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage or
dollar amount) that the GTA02 board kit would run compared to the
expected $450 base price? I
I think David went about it as well as he could.. although I feel by using
Graffiti-like Nkoli did not breach trademark rights, just used it as an
example. We do need to come up with another name in the near future,
because we cannot release software called Graffiti.
I know most of us are
I am disappointed. I wanted the FCC to support open networks and open
services as well. I really hope Google wins this thing...for the sake of
projects like ours.
In today's society, we are at the mercy of Verizon, ATT, Sprint, etc. in
terms what we are required to pay for mobile phone and
You make such a good point. Why does a company get to own our airwaves? It
doesn't make much sense. Who says it's the government's right to auction
off our airwaves? Because the companies know how to utilize them better?
Oh yeah, Verizon is great at it...
There is no reason we should have to
I flashed my Neo to this revision:
http://chooseopen.com/openmoko/build/u-boot-gta01bv4-r11_e80955f07de03fef0196353e77534b2300193c1c_0_2348.bin
Some things I have noticed:
a- I no longer have to hold the power button down for 3 secs. to start the
bootloader. I yet to check the release notes to
I agree with Jeremy.
On 8/7/07, Jeremy G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M8: Panel Discussion: Deploying Linux-based Handsets in the
Real World
08/09/2007, 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM
Moderator:
Bill Weinberg,
Having my own business, I can begin to understand the position of FIC and
their small team trying to process a seemingly endless list of emails on top
of processing the standard orders. They don't have fringe departments, or
employees for that matter. No one to sit down and just politely respond
I have been unable to coerce my Neo to charge batteries, so I have a feeling
it has to do with the uboot image I flashed. Should I manually charge the
batteries some other way? or continue trying to reflash the original uboot
revision? (Can you even use the debug board if the battery is dead?)
-Update:
I guess the debug board charges the batteries, because I checked the voltage
after typing the previous email and it's ~3.29v. I still cannot get the Neo
to turn on though...
-Kyle
On 8/14/07, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been unable to coerce my Neo to charge
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal
I love the idea, just (here's the real reason why I love open source!) not
send to emergency services. Pick a relative or co-worker to send to...hell
maybe even an auto-email system that will parse the message. Anything is
possible!
-Kyle
On 10/3/07, Doug Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. Palm OS experiences the same kind of lag in certain cases.
On 10/3/07, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently tried out the new Blackberry 8300, that a customer had
purchased, and I almost wanted to throw it in the bin, but of course it
was not mine. When you roll the ball there
you prolly want to lock down the uboot screen, etc. to prevent the phone
from just being re-imaged. It would prolly require the debug board if you
forgot the password.
-Kyle
On 10/14/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve wrote:
You may want to do the opposite. Your phone may think
I think the idea is great... I've designed a few control systems using
accelerometers to time the ejection of parachutes on MPRs/HPRs (Medium/High
Power Rockets). The biggest issue is how to interpret the data.
One of the largest problems we've had to overcome with accelerometers is
averaging
The GPS should help with that...
On 10/15/07, Kero van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations
will
be a big challenge.
Once my Neo knows how I walk, it can detect that I am walking and subtract
the walking
pattern from the
See, we all think M$ sucks and Google rocks, but we have to remember
they are still a business. If M$ wasn't doing such a poor job, then
Google may not be so highly regarded today.
OpenMoko all the way!
-Kyle
On Nov 13, 2007 9:51 PM, Doug Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah it seems like
as the shit starts to hit the fan...
On Nov 16, 2007 8:20 AM, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move
like this. Best regards for
awesome! thanks guys!
-Kyle
On Nov 29, 2007 3:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready
a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it:
1. Visit http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/
Curiosity prevails:
I do see a few benefits to a device which is just a GPS radio, like what Ian
has stated. Would their be any legal ramifications to a reverse-engineered
open source binary interpreter for the GPS radio? I saw a few people
mention government concerns with having access to a
I think the largest issue with a motion sensing algorithm would be human
reproducibility. I feel the precision of our movement ability is less than
the precision of the device/possible code. If the code is only designed to
pick up direction and not magnitude, then reliability (of valid person
ok-for hardware and software concerns, how can we donate an idea to the
public, to guarantee the inability of someone patenting the idea?
Something above just mentioning it on a public/mediated ml.
In addition, could you publicly state your idea to timestamp it for
patenting?
-Kyle
On Dec 3,
For those of us talking in the need someone to develop this thread, we
should move further discussion here.
-Kyle
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what a great way to:
a-learn morse code
b-bring it back in style!
-Kyle
On Dec 3, 2007 1:01 PM, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh yeah, you could totally do it in morse code, which would be faster then
if you actually sent bits represented by vibrations.
On Dec 3, 2007 11:51 AM,
Hi Ian,
Could you define direct? Thanks, just curious how you powered the module
by itself.
-Kyle
On Dec 3, 2007 4:06 PM, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erland Lewin wrote:
Hello Speedevil (copying the neo1973-hardware list),
I saw that you edited the numbers for the Neo1973
the specs. verbatim.
-Kyle Bassett
On Feb 3, 2008 6:11 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I tried this: http://owfs.sourceforge.net/WRT54G.html and it doesn't
work for me.
It looks really weird how the author connected the DS2480B, which runs
at 5V directly to the UART, which provides only
I have been following the Suspended Mode thread in the kernel ML and they
have made amazing progress within the last week. As GTA02A5 currently
stands, a cold suspend mode (just GSM in standby awaiting incoming
call/sms), could result in 20 days of standby!
For those technical people on this
Kyle Bassett:
I have been following the Suspended Mode thread in the kernel ML and
they
have made amazing progress within the last week. As GTA02A5 currently
stands, a cold suspend mode (just GSM in standby awaiting incoming
call/sms), could result in 20 days of standby!
For those
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
On Thursday, Feb 14, 2008, Kyle Bassett writes:
There is talk about pushing startup power control of the internal
devices
(wifi, bt, gps, mmc, etc.) to user level, as every user may or may
not want
certain devices available at bootup/all the time
I can second this. I have used a similar design in some mobile handheld
prototypes, holds up quite well! Much more efficient.
-Kyle
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
For those with a soldering iron I can recommend mintyboost [1]
Works great here, two
Thanks for all the input!
To clarify:
I have already set this this system up using linux/win/mac IAX clients and
it works great. Reliability is very high (no failures within the 4 months
I've had it up) with my dedicated asterisk server running off my DSL
connection (QoS on with a linux router).
Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some
favors people owe me, I have acquired an 8GB iPhone (without the ATT
contract)! Now don't think this means I am defecting to the iPhone
community, by any means :-) I actually am writing for suggestions to make
this iPhone
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Do you have an ATT SIM card? Does it work with your iPhone? (I know you
said you didn't get an ATT contract.)
I'd be very interested in whether that SIM card works in a Neo.
Michael
Kyle Bassett wrote:
Well, through some mysterious events within the past few days and some
In addition, I would recommend testing the specific SIM cards, as some
people have purchased a SIM just for the GTA01/02. Add a column in the wiki
for (Verified, Unknown SIM card functionality status)?
-Kyle
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Erin Yueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi List,
I've
Great idea Michael!
-Kyle
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dear community,
I'd like to initiate a weekly poll for you, our community, to nominate a
fellow community member who has contributed substantially to the
project, whether an application, a
I think your examples are very possible. Kind of reaching would be
something like trying to detect the type of jacket the person is wearing
based on how much the fibers stretch during each step...or whether their
jacket is open, by measuring the horizontal swinging motion. If the
acceleration
More thanks Steve!
I'm glad you guys slimmed down the original packaging, as anything above
~400 becomes very prohibitive (as a work in progress platform) for many
people.
Keep up the great work and thanks for the frequent updates!
-Kyle
* proud GTA01 hacker, GTA02 stalker ;-) *
On Sat, Apr
awesome!
why does it matter that you are or are not an american?
-Kyle
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My samples arrived!
I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to
send them a copy of
My social security card or my taxes.
haha wow...it's been a long time in making, but you guys have finally done
it. I really have to commend the entire OM staff for their true dedication!
I am seriously contemplating release of my own video entitled, ROFLWS:
Rolling on floor laughing, with schematics!
And only on this ML could I
Hello all,
I was wondering what would be the best set of images to flash to the Neo1973
for a bluetooth/sound project I am working on. (I need to make sure that I
can TX/RX audio to a bt headset).
There have been quite a few changes to the images lately (along with
buildhost, etc), and I
Is there a reason why I can't find the ipkg utility on any of these images?
I am using
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080430-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2
from automated.it, because all the builds on OM are down...
-Kyle
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