Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:42:56 +0100, matthias felsc...@student.hu-berlin.de wrote: Bastian Muck schrieb: Gothnet schrieb: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible. I don't know what your problem is. I conected my fr often to my Windows XP and never had problems. I tried 2007.X, 2008.X and Qt Extended. Greetings Bastian But is there anyone who tried it with debian? Yes, me (have only Windows at work). I got a bluescreen once, but it never happened again... But somehow I can't get a internet connection (network works only between FR and Host), so I created a debian VMWare, and pass the USB device to the VMWare. Then I enable NAT network for the VMWare and enable USB networking _IN_ the VmWare. This works pretty well :) Network is now WAN-Windows-VMwareDebian-Freerunner. Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:02:04 +0100, matthias felsche matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: Daniel Spies schrieb: Yes, me (have only Windows at work). I got a bluescreen once, but it never happened again... But somehow I can't get a internet connection (network works only between FR and Host), so I created a debian VMWare, and pass the USB device to the VMWare. Then I enable NAT network for the VMWare and enable USB networking _IN_ the VmWare. This works pretty well :) Network is now WAN-Windows-VMwareDebian-Freerunner. Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community An interesting method. I was able to manage this by doing: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Neo_1973_and_Windows#Another_maybe_quite_unsecure_method_.28WinXP_Professional_32_Bit.29 Hope you understand what I wrote there. It worked for me with SHR, Om2008.8, Om2008.12, Debian. The Neos in here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dhmoko do that all day long! :) Matthias I can't test your configuration. The port of my switch will be shut down if I enable the connection sharing (port security). But I can offer you some English descriptions for your Wiki entry. - Systemsteuerung = Control Panel - Netzwerkverbindungen = Network Connections - the network adaptors are in EN Windows are normally called Local Area Connection - Eigenschaften = Properties - Erweitert = Advanced - Gemeinsame Nutzung der Internetverbindung = Internet Connection Sharing - Anderen Benutzern im Netzwerk gestatten, die Internetverbindung dieses Computers zu verwenden = Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection So you may update the Wiki section with a proper translation :) Cheers, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google analytic records of January
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:53:37 +0800, Brenda Wang brenda_w...@openmoko.com wrote: Dear list: I update the Google analytic records of wiki last month. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Application page, Android, Distribution pages still the most popular page of Wiki. Feel free to let me know , if any kind of number you want .I can export and update it on wiki. Regards Brenda Amazing that there are more hits from Germany than from the US. (I'm from Germany too) But I for one am using noScript, and google-analytics.com is untrusted... So as always this is not 100% reliable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Accerlerom. stop on movement, known issue / only for me?
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:17:02 -0600, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, this is happening all across the board. Some bug in the kernel. If you just try flashing kernels, you'll probably come across one that doesn't have this sooner or later. I use mwester's kernel, and finally got rid of that bug. (I use SHR, too, it's not a Debian issue) I see, thanks for letting me know! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] Accerlerom. stop on movement, known issue / only for me?
Hello, I remember there was a thread about accelerometers in Debian and I think they should not work correctly. I can't find it any more. So I recently played around with the accelerometers using Debian and found _some_ output from both /dev/input/event2 and event3. It seems not to be realistic what I receive from the hexdump, and when I move the FR the whole Output is stuck. This also happens when I use the python or perl script from the wiki. So I just wanted to check if this is the behavior caused by the accelerometers not working yet? Or are accelerometers in Debian fixed and this is only happening to me? Thanks and best regards, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner LightSaber
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:18:56 -0500, kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I have Hackable1 installed on my Freerunner as well, and I thought it would work on that no problem after installing python-pygame. But, after installing pygame (apt-get install python-pygame) I tried to run it and I got an error message: open /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq: No such file or directory The program doesn't crash, it keeps going, just with no sound. Which, makes the app useless. I'll play with it to day and see if I can get it going on Hackable1 and if I can it should run on Debain as well. On Debian it's the very same error message you get, so any update on this issue? Thanks, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner LightSaber
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:21:51 -0500, kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.com wrote: What OS are you running? when you installed it did it give any errors? I tried it on FSO-testing and installed all packages that could have been missing. How to install the app? I copied the files to /usr... Thanks for you answer! I'll try it on my new Debian later. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner LightSaber
kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.com wrote on Saturday 17 January 2009: Well, a few months ago, before I have a FreeRunner I saw a LightSaber application for the iPhone, I thought was neat. So, I made My own for the FreeRunner Yesterday. Here is the link http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-user/ko-lightsaber.tar.gz How to install: Just un-tar it to your root directory and it should place everything where it needs to be and give you an icon on your desktop. What it does: Start the App and the phone sounds like a LightSaber Extending and then Humming (You know, Like StarWars) Swing the Phone Around and it sounds like you're having a LightSaber Fight. Features so Far: Sound, Vibration, and The Power Button LED flashes Blue on Swings. Todo list: Work on the GUI (Currently just a big exit button) add buttons to extend and retract Saber ( so you don't have to exit the program to stop the sounds ) And some sort of graphic or image of a Light Saber. Add More sounds Have buttons so you can choose the color of you lightsaber. Bugs: Sometimes while exiting, if you are still swinging the phone around, the LED and/or the vibrator will stay on. If this occurs, start the app up again and then close it with out swinging the phone around. I believe I can fix this with ease. I just wanted to get what I have done out before I continued working on new things. I got the sound fx off a free sound fx website. Don't know who made them. I hope it is ok that I used them. Hi Kris, I wanted to give it a try, but I always get the following error output: r...@om-gta02:~# ko-lightsaber Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/ko-lightsaber, line 4, in module import pygame.mixer ImportError: No module named pygame.mixer Any idea what's the problem here? I installed the pygame package you suggested http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python- pygame_1.7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk Thanks, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gtk+-fastscaling depency
Hi list, I got several packages now that are depending on gtk+-fastscaling. I did not try if forcing install will work, but I was wondering if this is a known thing. Because TangoGPS is a pretty well known app, right? So I was wondering why I get these errors... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * Any idea? Thanks, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: gtk+-fastscaling depency
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote on Tuesday 27 January 2009: In distros like SHR that package is now called gtk+; however maybe its authors should define something like a Provides, Replaces, Conflicts: gtk+-fastscaling as in Debian. That would be great indeed... Thanks for the information! Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] issues using fso images / no wireless
Hello list, as I still cannot compile FSO on my machines I tried to use the already build images provided by [1]. After flashing the kernel and rootfs I could easily boot und setup my FR. Now it seems there is no Dialer and/or Contact application preinstalled. I wanted to install them from the repos, but after establishing a connection to a wireless network it turned out that doesn't work at all. I got my IP address and 'route' tells me the default gateway is set properly. But no packet seems to go out... So, anyone know if there is a known issue with wireless on the current FSO builds? I'm ready to flash again if I did something wrong, if you help me. I didn't use the modules-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.tgz file, I simply don't know what to do with it. May this be a problem? Used files for flashing are: openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090118-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin [1] http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/ Thanks, Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:39:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes they are not putting the right specifications on the batteries. Right now I have in my other phone (k700i) battery with the capacity double of the original one. But this is just a label. Uptime is the same as with the original battery. My point being that for more capacity you need to have bigger battery. It's not possible to contain more energy in the same amount of electrolyte. Ate least not for a battery for 11 euro. Leonti I see. I was also wondering about the price of 11 Eur if this battery really should deliver 2300mAh. Never mind, for now I'm fine with my backup BL-C5 to wake my FR from battery-death. Thanks! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:05:03 -0800 (PST), Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: I was wondering if the FR battery had pretty much hit the limit for modern, affordable battery tech. After searching around for a while myself I've found a variety of other batteries that claim 1300, 1400, or even 1600 mAh in compatible form-factors. But they're all on ebay and I don't trust 'em. Especially with this line in the description - A temporary short capacity of new battery will be resulted from not used for a long time, it is normal, the total capacity will be reinstated via used for 3-5 times. Bad english aside, it sounds like a con. Though for £7.50 it's almost worth a try http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220343010836 Feel free to try it, and let me know the results :P Just kidding, it seems logical that these batteries don't have the capacity declared, as they are five times cheaper than original batteries and claim to have doubled performance... I was hoping I'm wrong, but as everyone thinks the same I'd rather get a second FIC battery. Cheers, Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] building failed (package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: failed)
Hi all, I'm facing troubles compiling FSO with the FSOmakefile following the instructions of [1]. Running a Debian Stable machine I get the following output: NOTE: Running task 3 of 6566 (ID: 23, /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb, do_unpack) NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: started NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: started NOTE: Unpacking /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/openembedded/packages/shasum/files/main.c to /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/tmp/work/i686-linux/shasum-native-1.0-r1/ NOTE: Task failed: NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: failed ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: failed ERROR: Build of /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb do_unpack failed ERROR: Task 23 (/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb, do_unpack) failed NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb' failed NOTE: build 200901190105: completed make[1]: *** [image] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing' make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Error 2 Additionally [2] (where I thought I could search for a solution) seems to be down at the moment (SQL error) so I hope someone could give me a hint what may be wrong here. Unpacking seems a pretty easy task to me... Thank you! Daniel [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO [2] http://wiki.openembedded.net/ -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] building failed (package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: failed)
Okay I started it again and it seems to run now. Strange... Didn't change anything... Thanks anyway. Daniel On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:25:10 +0100, Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: Hi all, I'm facing troubles compiling FSO with the FSOmakefile following the instructions of [1]. Running a Debian Stable machine I get the following output: NOTE: Running task 3 of 6566 (ID: 23, /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb, do_unpack) NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: started NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: started NOTE: Unpacking /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/openembedded/packages/shasum/files/main.c to /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/tmp/work/i686-linux/shasum-native-1.0-r1/ NOTE: Task failed: NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_unpack: failed ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0: failed ERROR: Build of /home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb do_unpack failed ERROR: Task 23 (/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb, do_unpack) failed NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 2 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing/openembedded/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb' failed NOTE: build 200901190105: completed make[1]: *** [image] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/spitfire/openmoko/fso/fso-testing' make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Error 2 Additionally [2] (where I thought I could search for a solution) seems to be down at the moment (SQL error) so I hope someone could give me a hint what may be wrong here. Unpacking seems a pretty easy task to me... Thank you! Daniel [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO [2] http://wiki.openembedded.net/ -- Egertenstraße 19 74626 Waldbach Germany Phone: +49 (0)175 43 73 519 E-Mail: daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
Hi list, I was search for a more powerful battery and found [1]. It seems this would match in the slot of the FR, but I wanted to make sure if I can apply such a battery without killing the hardware. If I understand right this battery should give me almost doubled uptime, right? Thanks for your comments! Cheers, Daniel [1] http://www.amazon.de/Power-Handy-Baugleich-BL-5C- BL5C/dp/B001AP27Y6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8s=ce-deqid=1232405231sr=1-7 (sorry, it's German, I was searching for a equivalent item on amazon.com, but without success) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?
Hi, I wanted to test FSO and check for this [1] issue. I'm using the FSOMakefile, and it's running for about two hours now. I saw a message stating Running task 410 of 6674. Does this mean I will have to let this running until tomorrow until I can flash the FR? Would mean 30+ hours until the FSOMakefile is done with that speed. I'm asking if it's worth waiting in front of my PC or if I can go out and check again tomorrow... Cheers, Daniel [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td662177 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote on Sunday 18 January 2009: On my core2duo a full compile from scratch takes about 6 hours. Okay, I got a 2.66 Ghz C2D but I assume it will take longer as I only got DSL Light (47 kb/s dl). Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping
Hi community, This is for Germans only: I just found a website [1] offering the Sandisk Micro SD 8GB Class6 card for 4,90 EUR including shipping costs. I ordered four of them, and am now waiting to receive them. As this MicroSD is stated in the Working SD Cards section in the Wiki it maybe worth a look if you don't have one already. As I didn't receive the cards yet, I cannot assure this service is trustworthy. Just thought you may be interested. When I receive the cards I will let you know for those who don't want to loose their money ;) Please don't blame me if you order cards, but don't receive them. Maybe just wait for my report... It also may be the price will change at any time... Cheers, Daniel [1] http://www.gimahhot.de/m900-349203-0-0-0/sandisk-memory-stick-micro-m2-ultra-8-gb-mit-card-reader.html -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping
Original Message Subject: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:35:44 +0100 From: Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com To: Nicolas Pichon nicolas.pic...@luceor.com Reply-To: daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:58:42 +0100, Nicolas Pichon nicolas.pic...@luceor.com wrote: Hi Daniel, Your link leads to a memory stick micro card with a card reader (sold 38,94€), not a MicroSD card. I can't find any 8Gb MicroSD card on their website, so I find two explanations : - they are sold out ; - the low price was a mistake and they removed the product when they saw it. Cheers, Nicolas. Hi Nicolas, Yes, I see now the price is changed. The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove it from there and get a normal microSD card. This is the original description of Sandisk: http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(2621)-SDMSM2Y-8192-A11M-SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra_Memory_Stick_Micro_M2_8GB_Card.aspx But you're right, the price was a mistake, sorry therefore :( This is the mail that I received: [quote] leider müssen wir Ihnen mitteilen, dass der Verkäufer einen falschen Preis eingestellt hat. Da dieser Preis weit ab vom Marktpreis und offensichtlich falsch war, ist der Verkäufer nicht an dieses Angebot gebunden und muss die Bestellung nicht annehmen. Somit besteht leider auch keine Möglichkeit des Schadensersatzes. Es tut uns sehr Leid, auch für uns als Vermittler sind solche Fehler sehr ärgerlich. [...] [/quote] They say the price was a mistake by the seller and they are very sorry for the issue. Cheers, Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:53:44 +0100, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove nope, it is an usb adaptor. from there and get a normal microSD card. nope! it is an MEMORY STICK! that's a sony specific medium, but no SD CARD. I need to apologize, I mixed it up with http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(2630)-SDSDQY-8192-A11M-SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra_microSDHC_8GBCard.aspx This is the microSD card I was talking about, so I'm lucky they canceled my order :P Thanks for correcting me! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
quick help for freerunner noob, terminal/wifi missing
Hi all, I received my Freerunner today and after loading the battery I flashed everything (kernel, rootfs and u-boot) to the 2008.12 release. Work's pretty well, except I can't find a termin/console and cannot find any possibity to access wireless networks (as I am not at home atm I can't use USB). So is it normal for 2008.12 to not have that much apps installed per default? Did I miss someting when flashing? I can't find any issues like mine searching Google, and it seems the Wiki doesn't handle this issue as well. It would be great if I just could get access to the terminal like I could in the previously installed 2007.2... Any hints? Thanks a lot! Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[solved] Re: quick help for freerunner noob, terminal/wifi missing
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:14:48 +0100, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: Hi all, I received my Freerunner today and after loading the battery I flashed everything (kernel, rootfs and u-boot) to the 2008.12 release. Work's pretty well, except I can't find a termin/console and cannot find any possibity to access wireless networks (as I am not at home atm I can't use USB). So is it normal for 2008.12 to not have that much apps installed per default? Did I miss someting when flashing? I can't find any issues like mine searching Google, and it seems the Wiki doesn't handle this issue as well. It would be great if I just could get access to the terminal like I could in the previously installed 2007.2... Any hints? haven't used 2008.12, but previous 2008.* didn't include much apps so you'll need usb connection to install terminal and terminal or something like mofi (http://www.opkg.org/package_11.html) to get wifi up y Thanks a lot, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow :( -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Out of date, please update me
Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk wrote on Thursday 15 January 2009: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:02:02 +0100 Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: - I'm developing a lot with OpenGL these days, is there any way to get a usable 3d performance on the GTA02 today/plans for the future? There's a community effort underway to get DRI working for Glamo, and the chip's documentation has been made available to people who are willing to sign an NDA. Keep an eye on the Devel list if you're interested... Tom Thanks Tom, I just subscribed to the list! :) Cheers, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Out of date, please update me
Dear community, I am in the list now since before the release of GTA01 and used to read most of the messages. After the release of GTA02 a huge flame war started and after some mails regarding the future of OM I was unsettled and decided to wait for a while. The amount of mail per day increased and I could not read all of them any more. So now I'm really not up to date and am not sure what's all about. I hope someone could answer me a few questions... :) - I'm developing a lot with OpenGL these days, is there any way to get a usable 3d performance on the GTA02 today/plans for the future? - Is there any major issue with the GTA02 hardware (e.g. possibility of getting destroyed hardware by the battery or whatever) - I know staff won't tell me much about GTA03, but I hope to just get the information if the case design will be different? I'm fine if one could tell me if it will be _not_ egg-shaped and will have _no_ hardware keyboard (just like the GTA01/02 but not egg-shaped). I don't like the design... Maybe there is a rough painting or something? - What about the OS thing? When I stopped reading there were messages saying the core of OM will be decided and programmed by OM internals. What is the status now, what is done by OMs only? - Maybe there is a information page about the GTA03 and I just didn't find it, is there? To prevent people from flaming about my questions about GTA03: It's 90% sure that I will buy a GTA02 as I was searching the web for weeks and could not find any other device like the FR. And as I still use my Nokia 3410 it's time to get a new mobile device now. GTA03 is not available yet, so there's only the GTA02 left. I just hope to have a preview on the GTA03 to decide if I will look for different devices or just wait for the GTA03 to come out after getting the GTA02. Thanks for all your comments! Cheers, Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Out of date, please update me
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:02:02 +0100, Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com wrote: Dear community, I am in the list now since before the release of GTA01 and used to read most of the messages. After the release of GTA02 a huge flame war started and after some mails regarding the future of OM I was unsettled and decided to wait for a while. The amount of mail per day increased and I could not read all of them any more. So now I'm really not up to date and am not sure what's all about. I hope someone could answer me a few questions... :) - I'm developing a lot with OpenGL these days, is there any way to get a usable 3d performance on the GTA02 today/plans for the future? - Is there any major issue with the GTA02 hardware (e.g. possibility of getting destroyed hardware by the battery or whatever) - I know staff won't tell me much about GTA03, but I hope to just get the information if the case design will be different? I'm fine if one could tell me if it will be _not_ egg-shaped and will have _no_ hardware keyboard (just like the GTA01/02 but not egg-shaped). I don't like the design... Maybe there is a rough painting or something? - What about the OS thing? When I stopped reading there were messages saying the core of OM will be decided and programmed by OM internals. What is the status now, what is done by OMs only? - Maybe there is a information page about the GTA03 and I just didn't find it, is there? Okay I found http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03 in the meantime, sorry. So what about the case, any paintings already? By the way, I just ordered my Freerunner! :) -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I would like to know that, too. I have pretty good connection to China and Taiwan, so I could easily arrange to get a Freerunner directly from there... If you plan to ship phones to China from the US (or anywhere else) you'll have to get an CCC certificate in order to get this working properly... Another method could be hand-carrying ;) On Tuesday 20 May 2008 00:53:04 Mischa Beitz wrote: Ok . . . this a completely self interested question. I'm ALREADY IN CHINA and would happily venture to the factory to get my hands on one of these (I've been using a company phone for the last month waiting for it to appear - the boss is starting to wonder). Is this possible? Where in China is the phone assembled? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:54 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. that's a 2-3 diffrence right there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Hardware update
So, if it doesn't cause too much trouble, may you describe these reasons? Or is there anything on the wiki? (Sorry I cannot check it myself right now.) Daniel On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:39:58 -0700, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FreeRunner uses a 500 Mhz CPU. The board design is rated to 400 Mhz. So, if people check CPU processing specs they will see 500MHz. Operationally, we limit it to 400 Mhz. For a varety of reasons. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pfeiffer Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Hardware update Alexander Frøyseth writes: Soo 400/500 MHz is no more? I've never heard any projection that openmoko was ever going to run on 400 or 500 MHz -- in fact, I'd never heard of that GSM band, and googled to find it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 62.159.37.130 [62.159.37.130] with HTTP/1.1 (POST); Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:03:53 +0200 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I see. Thank you! On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:24:53 +0200, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was on the list a few weeks ago - the main reason is the ram divisor - clocking the cpu higher means clocking the ram lower, means lowering the total throughput. So it's a question of requirements. Lowering the ramclock for having the cpu at a higher speed is not worth it. Another point is the power consumption at 500 MHz. Not worth it, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Freerunner manufacturing status
Thank you very much for these good news! Really appreciate your update! :) Daniel On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:55:29 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just received a status report from our VP of Marketing, Steve Mosher: The Freerunner design is currently staged to go through Production Validation Test (PVT). The hardware design A5 is, we believe, solid. We are updating this design to A6 to maximize production yields. The purpose of PVT is to make sure the yield is high enough, and to make sure the manufacturing and testing process is smooth and efficient. Steve also welcomes direct contact from you. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:18:54 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Keep up the great work Lorn (and Co.). Over here we're working as hard as we can to get FreeRunner out of the factory. Things are moving nicely now. Pilot runs are in a few days from now. Thank you for the small update! :) Sean Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??
On Saturday 15 March 2008 19:27:02 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: ...and the Neo *is* fully open? What about the graphics module, the gps module, and the gsm module? You may get some I/O specs, but the modules themselves will never be open. They won't even release the CAD files for the case in their original form... The CAD files here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ Are _exactly_ the files that we use (and will use) for Mass Production. Please let me know where you found this inaccuate information so we can correct it. Or is this just your opinion? Sean Hehe, pwn3d! :) Anyway, I'd like to have some approximately date again, when the Freerunner will be ready for shipping _to developers_. Is the hardware tested and approved now? Will you go into mass-production soon, or is it conceivable? If we're close now, maybe we can get some more accurate dates... Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need a Cellphone now...
Okay, this is what I was worried about. I don't need GPRS+EDGE+UMTS, I only need one of these. But still then, there's no such device - except the Neo/Freerunner. Thanks for replying anyway! Daniel On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:43:18 +0100, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably don't want to hear it, but no chance to get a phone that supports your Must have + OpenMoko. As Freerunner doesn't have EDGE or UMTS there imho won't be a chance to get such a phone in 2008. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need a Cellphone now...
Because I still can tune the Freerunner. I have my lovely shell and can use the continuous effort made by the developers. What you suggested is what I have right now, and it's annoying. Thank you! Daniel On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:59:58 -0700, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not get a bottom-of-the-line phone from T-Mobile or some other GSM carrier? It will have the making and receiving calls feature and then you can use the sim in the freerunner when it is available in a month or two. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need a Cellphone now...
Hi list! I wonder if it's possible to run Openmoko on other handhelds than the Neo/Freerunner. Actually I need a new phone ASAP. As I already mentioned I don't need the complete functionality immediately. Making and receiving calls would be enough... I already searched the web for some kind of phone-comparer, but the only one I found did not offer the filters I need. Does anyone of you know a phone with the following specs? The Freerunner covers them all, but is still not available. If there's any smartphone covering the specs below, and we could run Openmoko on it, please let me know! Must have: - Wireless Lan - GPRS/EDGE/UMTS - Bluetooth - GPS - USB with host-mode - High Quality Stereo Soundcard - High Resolution Touchscreen - Less or no Buttons - Fast CPU - Not too less memory - Extensionslot for SD/microSD or whatever Nice to have: - Acceleration-sensor - DVB-T Receiver - Multitouch - Camera - 2 Sim slots I'm not sure if I missed something... Thank you! Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko release
If the Freerunner is now free of hardware failures I would like to get one, even if the software is not mass market ready, simply because I don't want to use my spare phone any more (Nokia 3410). As long as Openmoko is ready to make a call everything is fine for me... Hope this day will come soon! :) On Friday 07 March 2008 20:50:07 Ian Darwin wrote: Michael Schmidt wrote: Hi we need a release of Neo or any other mobile open phone (hardware setting) now otherwise the market will overrun the hardware Thanks, but I hope that isn't intended to be some kind of great new insight :-) I can assure you that people inside and outside the company are very aware of this problem and are working very hard to get the release out ASAP, but they also have quality control standards that are higher than most commercial organizations, eg., they won't ship stuff that is broken. This is all covered in the Wiki and the mailing lists, btw. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to enable USB-host mode
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 00:33:02 Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] wrote: Hello. I've made my 3-direction USB cable with +5v power but I need some tips how to enable USB host mode in Openmoko. Please help. Best regards, If this information is still correct the host mode kernel driver isn't there yet. Did not hear anything else, so please correct me, if I'm wrong. Cheers, Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Developer Version
I hope they don't send them out a few days before releasing GTA02. I would feel screwed... On Wednesday 26 September 2007 23:32:49 Ortwin Regel wrote: Pretty sure they are GTA01 as we haven't heard anything about GTA02 being finalized and it isn't planned before October anyway. Ortwin On 9/26/07, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Some more Phase 1 Neo's will be shiped end of september. Does somebody now, whether they will be GTA02 or GTA01? Thanks ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB host
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:37:04 +0530, ruk.ansari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Apologize for bringing this up again but its still not clear to me: Does this mean that without the kernel patch, we cannot use a Wi-Fi USB card connected to the Neo via a battery powered USB Hub? Yes, that's right. No host mode at all ATM... Cheers, Daniel -Rukhsana ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A guestion
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:37:00 +0200, wrote: Hello Community of Openmoko Does anybody know if the device in october is the same device up for sale on openmoko.com today? No! See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison GTA01 = current GTA02 = October version And will that device have the same developer support as the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it? Yes. Thanx in advance br Andutt ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Clarify openmoko != Neo1973
Dear list, I often read sentences like I think I'll buy an Openmoko in comments to news about Openmoko and the Neo1973. So how could we clarify what Openmoko actually is (a Linux distribution), and what it's not (a smartphone). Even the commercial website of Openmoko (openmoko.com) leaves the impression to me of Openmoko being a smartphone instead of being a Linux distribution *for smartphones like the Neo1973*. Well, at least this is my impression... Best regards, Daniel PS: I guess all these news are from members of this list. So maybe you could add a sentence to all your news? Something like: Openmoko is a linux distribution developed for mobile devices. The first device it will run on is the FIC Neo1973. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Troubles with mailing list
Hi List, I did not receive any message from the list for two days now, except some messages dated to July. (lol) If anyone receives my message, please be that kind, and answer it. Leave the list out, or CC it, so I can be sure I will receive it. Thanks in advance! Daniel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Test
On Friday 10 August 2007 16:04:06 Donald Organ wrote: I havent gotten anything from this list in a while. Just testing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Test? Is the list broken? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Test
On Friday 10 August 2007 16:04:06 Donald Organ wrote: I havent gotten anything from this list in a while. Just testing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Just another test, did not receive anything since Saturday... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
