Re: GTK in Qtopia

2008-07-30 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
Back in the glorious days of Qtopia2 (o zauri, where are thou?), there was an X server running on top of Qt-embedded. I'm pretty sure it stalled since then, but one can give it a try (http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/). BTW, it might have been a quicker way to reach the let's run random X apps

Re: GTK in Qtopia

2008-07-30 Thread Lorn Potter
On Wednesday 30 July 2008 4:52:25 pm Charles-Henri Gros wrote: Back in the glorious days of Qtopia2 (o zauri, where are thou?), there was an X server running on top of Qt-embedded. I'm pretty sure it stalled since then, but one can give it a try (http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/). BTW, it

Re: GTK in Qtopia

2008-07-30 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Charles-Henri Gros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people are already complaining that X is slow, I can't even imagine what it would be if coded on top of Qt... Some people would complain that _everything_ is slow, provided it's not their favorite

GTK in Qtopia

2008-07-29 Thread Cédric Berger
Hi, Is there a way to run a GTK application under Qtopia ? Some kind of GTK-Qt bridge... a way for GTK to write to Qtopia framebuffer instead of X ... or X writes to framebuffer ? ... or whole screen control switches from framebuffer to X while this app runs ? I think I have seen somewhere

Re: GTK in Qtopia

2008-07-29 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a way to run a GTK application under Qtopia ? Some kind of GTK-Qt bridge... a way for GTK to write to Qtopia framebuffer instead of X ... or X writes to framebuffer ? ... or whole screen control switches

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-21 Thread AVee
On Monday 19 November 2007 14:54, Marcelo Lira wrote: Free software is worth encouraging. Status quo closed source is not. So, this is a problem, but it is ok to use free software to help the growth of a company that profits in selling licenses for closed source software? Trolltech GPL's

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-21 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 18:13:15 Lorn Potter wrote: First Qtopia is not open enough, I guess you didn't read that Qtopia Phone is completely GPL, lock, stock and barrel. I guess you didn't read AVee's mail very closely. Seems to me that he was mocking that complaint, not making it.

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-21 Thread Lorn Potter
AVee wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007 14:54, Marcelo Lira wrote: Free software is worth encouraging. Status quo closed source is not. So, this is a problem, but it is ok to use free software to help the growth of a company that profits in selling licenses for closed source software?

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-20 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 19 November 2007 14:54:09 Marcelo Lira wrote: Yes, GPL guarantees that, but a library in GPL is not that useful for a developer that sometimes have to do closed source apps. And please don't start with the I will not help anyone developing closed source discourse, since a number of

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-19 Thread Lorn Potter
Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Lorn Potter wrote: If you look at the development, both Nokia and Openmoko 'runs the show' and has the last say on their respective platforms, not the community. It is perfectly reasonable to me that Nokia and FIC get to decide the software that's installed on their

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-19 Thread Marcelo Lira
From my POV, when people at OpenMoko decided on GTK for its paltform they are giving developers the ability to participate and influence *directly* on its development, and create great apps, both opensource and proprietary, without paying any license fees. The Nokia decision when build the Maemo

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-19 Thread Marcelo Lira
License fees for Qtopia (and Qt) are a pittance compared to the fees of even one engineer for one year for any company Yes I agree with you before you said it: Look that the pricing is not the most importante issue You can influence directly the development of Qtopia very easily. It appears more

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android -

2007-11-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Lorn Potter wrote: If you look at the development, both Nokia and Openmoko 'runs the show' and has the last say on their respective platforms, not the community. It is perfectly reasonable to me that Nokia and FIC get to decide the software that's installed on their hardware. But that

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Marcelo Lira wrote: From my POV, when people at OpenMoko decided on GTK for its paltform they are giving developers the ability to participate and influence *directly* on its development, and create great apps, both opensource and proprietary, without paying any license fees. The Nokia

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Marcelo Lira wrote: License fees for Qtopia (and Qt) are a pittance compared to the fees of even one engineer for one year for any company Yes I agree with you before you said it: Look that the pricing is not the most importante issue You can influence directly the development of Qtopia

RE: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread David Schlesinger
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needsapplications) (will be: new vision for openmoko) On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:30 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:30 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google. Last time I looked, the full Android stack wasn't

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 16, 2007, o godz 2:30 PM, przez Michael Schmidt: Hi If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google. Hi! Actualy those

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Richard Bennett
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:59:33 +0100, Michael Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So make a poll for GTK-OS versus Qtopia. maybe it is not only a technical question. Is there an emulator to test both systems on my windows machine? then i can give a vote based on the stomach. If not, then I vote

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 16, 2007, o godz 4:42 PM, przez Enno Gottox Boland: -.- ok another flamewar... lets participate. Hi! Actualy those are not operating systems. Operating system is for example Linux. It is used for OpenMoko and Qtopia (I'm not sure for Android but I think

GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Michael Schmidt
Hi If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google. It is right that a the community is devided between Qt and GTK, and that additionally the community

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Michael Schmidt
2007/11/16, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:30 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google

Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)

2007-11-16 Thread Thomas Wood
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:59 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: [...] So make a poll for GTK-OS versus Qtopia. maybe it is not only a technical question. Is there an emulator to test both systems on my windows machine? then i can give a vote based on the stomach. If not, then I vote for Qtopia