Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/22 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 07:22:15 am Robin Paulson wrote: that's confusing. i'm trying to install udev-static-devices, because apparently it will speed up boot time. it's not listed in the feeds which are on my neo (including 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/' as you listed

RE: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Hi, I decided I'd try to start using om2009 as my daily phone to help test it out. Here are a few of my comments (some I'm sure have been mentioned before) 1.) I really like the paroli look/interface! It is simple, responsive, and the contrast makes it easy to see. 2.) If you rotate

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli doesn't let me set the date, but only the time. For

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 09:21:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, some more breakage, may be unrelated to Om2009, though... I've managed to mangle my menues, so now I can't get at the settings anymore, and the Terminal is also gone. I don't remember being able to completely disable suspend, and my micro SD card seems to be not properly recognized

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Angus, On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The time gets updated from the network NTP, I assume? That'd be very much ok. Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the framework is ready to respond. Ok. I'd prefer digital too and maybe

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 10:46:54 am Toni Mueller wrote: There was a dialogue in Paroli where I could adjust the time. There, I entered the time according to my local time zone, being unaware of the network time stuff. But I'd prefer to configure an /etc/localtime, like in any other *nix, too. Doing it

Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email http://wiki.openmoko.org

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. You've only updated the rootfs, right? So no changes in the wifi driver? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread George Brooke
On Thursday 21 May 2009 20:34:48 Angus Ainslie wrote: New features Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd Better list handling More consistent interface New paroli-illume theme - only change so far is to remove desktop switcher - wanted volunteer to change

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
. * I need to get the buzz fix. ;} Wishlist: Being able to update to Om2009 final w/o re-flashing. I'm not overly comfortable writing to the mailing list this way, but don't have a better idea, yet. Kind regards, --Toni++ ___ Openmoko community

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Awesome Angus Mirko - can't wait to get testing this :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
fso-paroli-image-om- 8% |*** I'm waiting :) On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Awesome Angus Mirko - can't wait to get testing this :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 01:48:44 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. You've only updated the rootfs, right? So no changes in the wifi driver? M Right you could try the experimental

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread OpenMitko
/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active Don't bother

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:33:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same Mirko told me all you need is to reboot (first boot problems ... I really can't understand that) for it to

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:34:48PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: - wanted volunteer to change analog clock to digital I just removed the analog clock, on the paroli-illume profile you still have the nice paroli clock and the analog isn't really very readable for me (due to size). Having a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:33:31PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Problem at Display-Profile: can't get back to illume, illume, paroli or paroli-illume all look exactly the same Mirko told me all you need is to reboot (first boot problems ... I really

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 07:33:36 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404. Yes, but the

[Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems that might be cleared up reading the website(s): 1. Once

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 15.05.2009 at 12:53:22 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov alexx...@gmail.com wrote: You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already openned for it. will this work for other languages, too? Eg. Chinese comes to mind... Are you talking about this ticket?

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hiya, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
reading chinese on om2009 is already possible, I am not sure if the illume kbd handles inputting Chinese ... Are you talking about this ticket? http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/138 Yes that's the one. We are fighting it and I think we are close if not already there ;) Cheers, /mirko

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Max
Thank you for advice? Any chance to make this behavior default for om2009 tr x? I really appreciate paroli as a main phone application but FR is more than just a phone after all :) Max. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Max
В Вск, 10/05/2009 в 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет: ¤ I/O really doesn't tell for a normal people that it's actually the call log.. ¤ Msgs could be replaced with SMS, if something short has to be used ¤ Tele also doesn't make sense, I'd suggest using 'Dialer' As far as I understood it's

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Max wrote: As far as I understood it's just a text strings. Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli? It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set something like: utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал utf8_str_TELE = Звонилко utf8_str_MSG

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
that you can install the package udev-static-devices to reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing ) - stuff still under development. On the plus side, typing about anything is now MUCH, MUCH

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) no problem. ;) 1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the main screen of

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 12:26:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-20 Thread pike
Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. So I've installed om2009/paroli without major problems, now. This is the distro to ship on new hardware, correct ? The first impressions are important then - I do remember 'unpacking my openmoko' - the wrapper of the black cardboard box

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is already known and being worked on, but thought I'd mention it for completeness. If you hold the

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
So far, I didn't really care much for the different keyboards, but if I can have a wish, I'd like response times like the current keyboard in Paroli gives (ie, it immediately gives results as fast as I can type), not as sluggish with 1-2 second pauses between key presses, like in Om2008.12,

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
booting the phone, etc. It was pleasant and pretty. I must agree, it was C000L!! So I've used myself as a use-case scenario and wrote down step by step what happened to me as a 'new user of om2009' - my first impressions and the hurdles I encountered. If anyone is interested, I can mail

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is already known and being

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Reading that wishes are not encouraged at this time, I'd probably better not hold my breath, though. That has changed a bit. We are now encouraging the community to create a wish list. What we also need the community to do is implement the wish list.

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 20, 2009 09:14:56 am Risto H. Kurppa wrote: This is great to hear Angus, that actually OM will also include some solutions from the community - I guess it means we might have a change of shipping a more complete distro, not only the very minimal, almost working stuff. Is there a

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-20 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
2009/5/20 Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com: Max wrote: As far as I understood it's just a text strings. Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli? It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set something like: utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-19 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 10.05.2009 at 23:53:48 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404. Kind regards, --Toni++ ___

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-19 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Sun, 10.05.2009 at 23:53:48 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404. Yes, but

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Pilgermann
for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org CC: de...@lists.openmoko.org de...@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: [Om2009] a community effort Community: if you want to write some opimd support (for instance in Paroli) or improve opimd itself, please contact me. It was hard

[Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Hi, I just flashed Om2009 on Freerunner and there comes my first thoughts about it: Parolis titles are not intuitive. I didn't realize what I/O means until I read all manuals (input-output=log) Paroli profile should not be default. Freerunner isn't just a phone, so it is weird that default

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, thanks for sharing your findings. Really, all this is helpful to us! So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 18, 2009 11:06:22 am Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn

Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009

2009-05-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-17 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! I also created a proper bugreport in FSO trac system: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/435 1-2 times a day. Same here. Pretty much proportianale to the usage. My suspect. Tom, would you mind to change these files (attached to #435), and report the newly generated frameworkd.log?

[Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey there, A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily phone

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread pike
Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware version

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
in my mind has been getting OM2009 out into the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009 we had two goals in mind: 1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily phone, a distro they could use 2. Introduce technology that would allow the community

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, pike wrote: OK, I am inclined to try that. Yay :) Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On 5/16/09, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi How can you help? OK, I am inclined to try that. Installations instructions say http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread arne anka
but it doesnt say which version of firmware needs upgrading, or any way to check your current firmware version, neither on the Flashing page; the flashing issue has been discussed so much the last few weeks that i honestly do not understand, how you can come up with the questions again. the

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread pike
a uSD card reader in my mac. OK, next question - I assume Qi has to be flashed first, is that correct ? It is last on the list at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009. And after flashing Qi, I can continue with the normal procedure ? Sorry for the obvious questions, but you asked for it :-D thanks

GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Paul Fertser
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that yet. Is upgrading the frimware required to install 2009/testing ? My hardware has been fine using QTExtended. Upgrading GSM

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/16 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that yet. Upgrading firmware is not scary at all, and is especially easy with the uSD

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Adam Jimerson
How big of uSD card is needed to use the image to upgrade the GSM Firmware? On May 16, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Paul Fertser wrote: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: The instructions on the Flashing page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing sound very scary, and I am not inclined to do that

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread George Brooke
On Saturday 16 May 2009 18:13:39 Yorick Moko wrote: untar the image of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image and you'll know it... i'm quite sure 128MB will suffice the 512MB one, delivered with the FR surely will On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Adam Jimerson

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
/GSM/Flashing - and you also can do it without uSD reader in your mac, see NOTE at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#NOTE OK, next question - I assume Qi has to be flashed first, is that correct ? It is last on the list at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009. And after flashing Qi, I

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-05-16 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Awesome Mirko see this mail. Yes, it's an invitation for the community to start working on OM2009 and I take that since it comes from Openmoko, Openmoko has some resources to commit to enable the community to participate. Let's see where this'll take us! On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mirko

Re: GSM Firmware upgrade (was: Re: [Om2009] a community effort)

2009-05-16 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Saturday 16 May 2009 01:33:38 pm George Brooke wrote: george-laptop~/openmoko/fluid☮:du -h flash-moko11-2.image 271Mflash-moko11-2.image I think you'll need the 512meg one. solar.george Thanks, good thing I keep a hold of the 512MB one that came with my phone. -- We must plan for

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Max
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 09:16 -0600, Angus Ainslie пишет: Hey I just put the lego together you should be thanking Mirko, and the FSO team. Sure guys - all kudos - that's foundation. I hope I'll be able to use all the shiny features one day. - lock and unlock screen by pressing aux button AUX

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Max
understand after booting into om2009 I'll see black screen of paroli (I can wait for eye-candy stuff for another year if it'll actually start to work like a phone) which will substitute functionality of dialer and messages icons. What about third icon - like bookerader program that I'll install via opkg

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Max
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 13:35 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет: Is there are some packages I need to install to achieve it or some configuration tweaks needed? Replace the alsa state What ticket should I track to see when fix will be included into one of om2009 TR x? One of the most annoying

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
is dialer another messages and third is bookreader. As far as I understand after booting into om2009 I'll see black screen of paroli (I can wait for eye-candy stuff for another year if it'll Press AUX for 2 sec to get to settings menu. There go to 'Display' and change 'profile' to 'illume' and you'll

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
will be included into one of om2009 TR x? One of the most annoying problems with om2008.12 is that sound lost after resume from suspend - even ringtone is silent. Is this related to that issue? My guess is that it'll be fixed in the next testing release (heard that Angus fixed it). SMS/number import

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
pc? How do I import this data back to om2009 TR3? best regards, Max. You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already openned for it. -- Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Gentoo Team Ru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Max
В Птн, 15/05/2009 в 12:53 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov пишет: You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already openned for it. Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing? best regards, Max

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-15 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Done. I examined the log more thoroughly, and wrote my findings

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing? There is basically 2 places: the paroli trac: http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ and the om main trac: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Hope those help, the channel paroli

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 15 May 2009, Max wrote: В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 13:35 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет: If so - how to migrate contacts db and sms message archive from om2008.12 to om2009? My guess is that you don't.. That's why I never even tried to believe these would be saved.. That's probably

[OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones

2009-05-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! With the newest om2009 image[1], there is no ringtones when calling. I used a week older image, where I applied all the paroli patches from git. There were no problem like this. Now I only get ringtones if the other part hang up before I get the paroli call screen. In that case I get

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
, and never happened the first call after booting. It happens the second, third, etc received call. Pretty much random this nasty bug. I also tried with yesterdays (om2009 unstable) image, the same failure, and it happens even more often. This and the massive slowdown of frameworkd[1] prevents me from

Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones

2009-05-14 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 14, 2009 02:58:38 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! With the newest om2009 image[1], there is no ringtones when calling. I used a week older image, where I applied all the paroli patches from git. There were no problem like this. Which ringtone are you using ? Angus

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 14, 2009 06:30:42 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I also carry the full frameworkd.log, and have one more saved logs when occured again. Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. angus: i have a paroli.log and frameworkd.log from

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 14, 2009 08:58:57 am Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done.

Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones

2009-05-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Which ringtone are you using ? The default one: phone-ringing.ogg It is the same with as the one week old image[1]. I do not think it has any relation with the ringtone. The calling screen appears after five(!) vibration. Best regards, Laszlo [1]: fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz from

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Done. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-14 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Done. ditto. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net

Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones

2009-05-14 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Now I only get ringtones if the other part hang up before I get the paroli call screen. In that case I get ringtone for about 2-3 sec. (but the phone calling is already ended) Angus: Ok. I spended the whole day on this bug. Finally found it, and could identify the file, which broke it.

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-13 Thread Ben Thompson
to stop using Om2009 now because of audio problems. Sometimes there would be loud echo or background noise and it seemed to happen on random calls at either end. However, I do like paroli and the high contrast UI, so I would like to say thanks for your work on this. Thanks Ben

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Max
First of all thank you for hard work Angus. I'd love to test om2009 but there are several questions I have to clarify before. The problem is that right now I have to use om2008.12 as my daily phone (this experience brings new depth into definition of annoyingly crappy software but that's

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Max m...@darim.com wrote: So before switching to om2009 TR3 I need to make sure that there are no regressions which would make my life with FR even worse (it's hard to imagine but it's possible). You have to have a system easily flashable.. That's why I built

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-13 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk wrote: I tried updating to unstable, but the problem was still there. I have also had to stop using Om2009 now because of audio problems. Sometimes there would be loud echo or background noise and it seemed to happen on random calls

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Angus Ainslie
to install Om2009 and the bring that package in from unstable or wait for TR4 - lock and unlock screen by pressing aux button AUX button has other uses I guess it's pretty common expectations and it sometimes work somehow with om2008.12 So my question is - are above mentioned features

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-13 Thread Tom Yates
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Looks like bug #144. Could you check how many paroli windows are open (with illume top bar)? If more than two paroli windows, its bug #144. it might well be. next time i run into it, i'll check. thanks for the prompt feedback! -- Tom Yates

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Warren Baird
Hi all, I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release. I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD card to give it a shot. I've only done minimal testing so far - I've been

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Warren Baird wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release. I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD card to give it a shot. Great and thx

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-13 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Warren Baird photogeek...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release.   I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my

Re: Building om2009

2009-05-12 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/5/12 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org: On May 11, 2009 03:34:48 pm Nicola Mfb wrote: [...] Hi Nicola, The build instructions are here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded The scripts and conf directories that I use to build the distro's are here

[Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Ben Thompson
Hi Folks Has anyone else noticed that Om2009 does not suspend anymore after recieving a call? I think this only happens if it wakes from suspend in the first place. Log attached.. Thanks Ben 2009.05.12 13:36:10.203 oeventsd.trigger DEBUGtrigger on InputTrigger if And(switch == POWER

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hej, Ben Thompson wrote: Hi Folks Has anyone else noticed that Om2009 does not suspend anymore after recieving a call? I think this only happens if it wakes from suspend in the first place. this is probably due to a problem in paroli. On activating a call it used to occupy the CPU

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Tom Yates
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ben Thompson wrote: Has anyone else noticed that Om2009 does not suspend anymore after recieving a call? I think this only happens if it wakes from suspend in the first place. i noticed that too. in at least one case, for me, it can also make no more calls itself

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Tom Yates wrote: i noticed that too. in at least one case, for me, it can also make no more calls itself (the call button in the tele screen does nothing). mirko, you sound like you've got a good handle on this. would more logs be helpful, or should i just say me too and sit down

Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call

2009-05-12 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net wrote: i noticed that too.  in at least one case, for me, it can also make no more calls itself (the call button in the tele screen does nothing). mirko, you sound like you've got a good handle on this.  would more logs be

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

2009-05-11 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: - some mess sometimes in the top of the screen Yup, please add it to the bug tracker I'm a bit unsure about this, I reflashed and wasn't able to see it.. I'll

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