Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 Cheers, Joseph On 07/12/2007, Eric Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hank Williams wrote: standard. Is gpio a wireless signaling standard? If so, I was not able to find it. It seems like a wired standard, and if it is a wired By GPIO I'm pretty sure he means signals that are friendly for interfacing to a CPU or other chips general purpose i/o lines. As someone else has mentioned recently on the list, I've started the mokosport project to come up with some code/discussion as to bicyclist/runner friendly uses for the moko. It hasn't really got off the ground yet, but all input is welcome! -E ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 Cheers, Joseph ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? The CAD files are out there, all we need is for someone (I've suggested Hope) to CNC a new case for the Neo1973 out of a single block of aluminium that can be bolted to my bike. If they did it right, there'd be no worries about mud, water or damage, just a bullet proof, bespoke bicycle computer. It might not have mass market appeal, but there's plenty of people out there who see a bike costing £1000 as being cheap. They're the sort that would love a bicycle computer like this, no matter what it cost. On 06/03/2008, Schmidt András [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 Cheers, Joseph ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki hardware wishlist too. My thought is aluminium = metal = faraday cage = stops gps, gsm, wifi, bt signals = BAD idea JW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:46 PM, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki hardware wishlist too. My thought is aluminium = metal = faraday cage = stops gps, gsm, wifi, bt signals = BAD idea I have a lock mount made of plastic and a small aluminum mount that fits into it (someone made that for me). I've used this to tie on a 'regular' GPS (Garmin 12) and a Bluetooth GPS 'mouse'. It'll probably hold the Neo^H^H^HFreerunner as well, seeing that the Garmin 12 weighs about a metric ton... I'll make and publish a picture. Christ van Willegen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
I'm thinking new case for the Neo, CNC'd from a block of aluminium, it could be just the back and sides, with a carbon fibre face plate with a waterproof, yet touch sensitive screen. Audio via bluetooth, ports protected by screw in aluminium plugs and the whole thing attached to my bike by being physically bolted to part of it. Why? Because I like my bikes and I find it very hard to go OTT with them. Aluminium and carbon fibre would look awesome bolted to the front of my bike 24 hours a day. The CAD files are out there, I just need to convince somebody to make it for me! Joseph On 06/03/2008, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. Perhaps it would be possible to attach a waterproof external keyboard via USB, and control the Neo using that. The keyboard cable would pass via a well sealed hole in a waterproof case. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. Perhaps it would be possible to attach a waterproof external keyboard via USB, and control the Neo using that. The keyboard cable would pass via a well sealed hole in a waterproof case. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional. David Pottage wrote: On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. Perhaps it would be possible to attach a waterproof external keyboard via USB, and control the Neo using that. The keyboard cable would pass via a well sealed hole in a waterproof case. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 14:11 +, David Pottage wrote: More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. You would just need a decent sealing/joint around the touch screen. I don't think the touchscreen itself takes any harm from getting in contact with water. Actually a waterproof mobile phone case would have many more takers, not just cyclists - anybody with all weather outdoor activity would be happy and none of the other makers of smartphones provides one! Marcus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Thursday 06 March 2008, David Pottage wrote: On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. Perhaps it would be possible to attach a waterproof external keyboard via USB, and control the Neo using that. The keyboard cable would pass via a well sealed hole in a waterproof case. Depends on the case. I've used a Psion 5 in a ziploc bag strapped to the bars before. Touchscreen was fine. For a more robust commercial alternative try this: http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=42t_mode=des For something more rugged there are these: http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=1075t_mode=des http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=1077t_mode=des ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 15:27 +0100, Schmidt András wrote: As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional I'd try to go for a joint: - |ooo -- silicone joint -- ooo| | =TS | | | |-case| (cut through the phone) Caveat: the joint may produce constant keypresses ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Le Jeu 6 mars 2008 15:27, Schmidt András a écrit : As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional. You will have to check if the heat dissipation is acceptable on a FreeRunner. Currently a Neo 1973 placed in a plastic bag becomes _hot_ . Gilles ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On 06/03/2008, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking new case for the Neo, CNC'd from a block of aluminium, it could be just the back and sides, with a carbon fibre face plate with a waterproof, yet touch sensitive screen. Audio via bluetooth, ports Joseph Did you not see my previous post? Metal case = not a great idea Metal case = block to all radio signals (GSM, bt etc) Metal case for 5 sides = almost as bad and am sure will still have severe effect on radio freq tx/rx BTW i agree Neo + OSM cycle tracks + cycle computer is good fun and secure / waterproof is very important If you want to proceed then many precision eng companies can convert IGES to CNC I would estimate 2500 dollars as a single unit job if you can find the right guys JW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Am Do 6. März 2008 schrieb Marcus Bauer: I'd try to go for a joint: - |ooo -- silicone joint -- ooo| | =TS | | | |-case| (cut through the phone) Caveat: the joint may produce constant keypresses That's why this is clearly forbidden by app notes of touchscreen manufacturer - and therefore isn't done already j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carbon Fiber can also be conductive and can create a Faraday cage, so be careful! possibly getting an over-case and mounting it on the handlebars would work, ideas at: http://www.otterbox.com/ - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0LqYTHCOtwancvwRAlVpAJ4vZxbBquQ9r2SuheeOvhDq4S3amQCfR0jt oxMPcUs++23TGYNhz7lBqQY= =YnED -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Andy writes: Carbon Fiber can also be conductive and can create a Faraday cage, so be careful! I'm actually trying to remember if I've ever seen transparent carbon fiber... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Hank Williams wrote: standard. Is gpio a wireless signaling standard? If so, I was not able to find it. It seems like a wired standard, and if it is a wired By GPIO I'm pretty sure he means signals that are friendly for interfacing to a CPU or other chips general purpose i/o lines. As someone else has mentioned recently on the list, I've started the mokosport project to come up with some code/discussion as to bicyclist/runner friendly uses for the moko. It hasn't really got off the ground yet, but all input is welcome! -E ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
You can get receivers for Polar chest straps that signal beats with gpio-accessible pulses. If the Neo1973 isn't completely packed inside, it should be an easy add-on. I dont understand what you are saying here. Are you saying there is a wireless reciever on the market which can be purchased which is compatible with polar? If so, what is it? What is the signaling standard. Is gpio a wireless signaling standard? If so, I was not able to find it. It seems like a wired standard, and if it is a wired standard I am not clear how you can connect it to a polar strap since the strap broadcasts wireless signals. Thanks Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Dec 4, 2007 7:11 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. ok, but what is the protocol. Is it ant? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. These can be easily interfaced to a micro (or the Neo in this case).. measure the time between pulses to determine the heart rate.. These receivers work with coded or uncoded Polar straps. The coded straps give extra pulses after the main pules, but that's a whole other matter.. :) Regards Neil Davey hank williams wrote: You can get receivers for Polar chest straps that signal beats with gpio-accessible pulses. If the Neo1973 isn't completely packed inside, it should be an easy add-on. I dont understand what you are saying here. Are you saying there is a wireless reciever on the market which can be purchased which is compatible with polar? If so, what is it? What is the signaling standard. Is gpio a wireless signaling standard? If so, I was not able to find it. It seems like a wired standard, and if it is a wired standard I am not clear how you can connect it to a polar strap since the strap broadcasts wireless signals. Thanks Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- Neil Davey Daveytronics.com.au P.O. Box 6089 Logan Central QLD, 4114 Looking for cost effective web hosting? Need a domain name for your business? It's cheaper than you think!! Talk to us and see what we can do for you --- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a receiver chip one could buy to detect these magnetic pulses? I'm not quite sure how one goes about capturing that. Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. I have some docs somewhere but can not find them at the moment.. >From a google search there is a page that talks about the transmitter (polar strap) signal.. The receiver I mentioned outputs a logic hi (1) when a pulse is detected from the polar strap, measure the time between pulses to determine heart rate.. Regards Neil hank williams wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 7:11 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. ok, but what is the protocol. Is it ant? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- Neil Davey Daveytronics.com.au P.O. Box 6089 Logan Central QLD, 4114 Looking for cost effective web hosting? Need a domain name for your business? It's cheaper than you think!! Talk to us and see what we can do for you --- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, hank williams wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a receiver chip one could buy to detect these magnetic pulses? I'm not quite sure how one goes about capturing that. Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are these: http://www.thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Everything from chips to complete USB sticks. No linux driver for the USB stick yet, but they may be willing to release enough info for one to be developed. USB is probably easiest for connection to the Neo, while the modules should be fine for a wireless cadence sensor. Adding a wheel pulse should be fairly easy if you aren't happy with GPS speed. If you're feeling really adventurous you could strain gauge the crank to give you torque measurement, but that might eat your batteries. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
The Polar HR Monitor equipment does a very simple 5hz pulse that can then be picked up and counted to get HR data.The hardware simply amplifies pluses in the 5hz frequency range, which could then be fed into a General Purpose Input Output (GPIO) line on the Neo 1973 itself. This is great because it's relatively simple to do, and alot of people have Polar HR stuff already. The ANT wireless protocol is used in alot of upcoming bicycling sensor products, Cadence censors, power meters, Heart Rate Monitors, Speed Pickups etc. from a variety of manufactures (Suunto, Garmin, PowerTap, Quarq) It is significantly more complicated since it allows multiple networks of device to interact in different ways without interference. Fortunately most of the complication is abstracted away by the integrated chips that thisisant (parent company garmin) sells. These chips provide just a serial interface, which is publicly well documented that can be used to communicate with these devices. The easiest way to get started is to buy a suunto pc pod, which is a has a USB - Serial interface that is then fed into the aformentioned chip that communicates to any ANT sensors. I don't know if/how the hardware could be attached to the openmoko platform since I'm not really a Hardware guy, though I suspect you might be able to pigy back on the i2c bus, does anyone know? -Will P.S. Chip Doc:http://thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Protocl Doc: http://thisisant.com/index.php?section=78 Proof of concept:http://code.google.com/p/suuntopcpod/ On Dec 4, 2007 6:50 AM, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a receiver chip one could buy to detect these magnetic pulses? I'm not quite sure how one goes about capturing that. Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are these: http://www.thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Thanks, Yes I am familiar with ant, but was curious if polar was the same thing or some different broadcast system. Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Does anyone have any experience with the Hardware side of things? Possibility of integrating ANT directly into the Neo 1973? -Will On Dec 4, 2007 10:47 AM, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are these: http://www.thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Thanks, Yes I am familiar with ant, but was curious if polar was the same thing or some different broadcast system. Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, hank williams wrote: - external sensors (cadence, heart rate) Many bicycle computers show cadence and heartrate, based on input from external sensors. Could something like that be done with the Neo? I am a cyclist and these inputs would be critical for me. All that stuff is wireless. I wonder if it would be possible to create a wireless interface for these things, or a bluetooth interface for a heartrate and cadence monitor. Actually, bluetooth heart rate and cadence devices would probably hurt polar (the leader in the field) since open source software for these things would be much better than what they produce, and at a far better price. You can get receivers for Polar chest straps that signal beats with gpio-accessible pulses. If the Neo1973 isn't completely packed inside, it should be an easy add-on. And Polar doesn't seem to mind other people doing better and cheaper software, so long as it requires buying Polar hardware. -Daniel *This .sig left intentionally blank* ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On 03/12/2007, Christian Surlykke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. great idea do you know of the projects part of the openmoko site? http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosport/ is listed there, and seems to cover what you want. i eagerly await it's release ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
- external sensors (cadence, heart rate) Many bicycle computers show cadence and heartrate, based on input from external sensors. Could something like that be done with the Neo? I am a cyclist and these inputs would be critical for me. All that stuff is wireless. I wonder if it would be possible to create a wireless interface for these things, or a bluetooth interface for a heartrate and cadence monitor. Actually, bluetooth heart rate and cadence devices would probably hurt polar (the leader in the field) since open source software for these things would be much better than what they produce, and at a far better price. Hank ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: Hello I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. I have a Garmin Forerunner and the battery life is 10 hours. I'm not sure the Neo could last that long? The software is possible, but I'm not sure anyone needs the screen on? it's better to download the stats after a run, not keep looking at the screen and risk an accident or just getting distracted. They say you should look far ahead and not at your front wheel, that way you don't get so tired :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
I've looked into this quite a bit, if you'd like to integrate with a HR Monitor/Cadience/Speed sensor the option that makes the most sense is to use the ANT(thisisant.com) wireless protocol to interact with any of the sensor made by garmin or suunto.Suunto produces a USB-Ant interface called the Suunto PC Pod. I was able to get it to work in linux using the documentation available on thisisant.com a basic proof of concept (that reads the Heart Rate data) in linux is available here: http://code.google.com/p/suuntopcpod/ Since the Neo 1973 has USB Host, you could plug in the dongle and have it working without a problem. -Will On Dec 2, 2007 3:18 PM, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: Hello I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. I have a Garmin Forerunner and the battery life is 10 hours. I'm not sure the Neo could last that long? The software is possible, but I'm not sure anyone needs the screen on? it's better to download the stats after a run, not keep looking at the screen and risk an accident or just getting distracted. They say you should look far ahead and not at your front wheel, that way you don't get so tired :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Application idea: Bicycle computer
Would it still be possible to use the touchscreen then? Doesn't really matter since you'll have accelerometers. Give it a light knock to the left to see stat screen X, knock it to the right to stat screen Y, knock it right on to light up the screen. Make it do an automated 911 call with recorded voice and GPS co-ordinates if it detects sudden, strong, acceleration in one direction and then a complete stop. Only your imagination limits you. :) /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:18:06 +, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: Hello I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. I have a Garmin Forerunner and the battery life is 10 hours. I'm not sure the Neo could last that long? The software is possible, but I'm not sure anyone needs the screen on? You can still split the screen and use a small surface which reduces power consumption. it's better to download the stats after a run, not keep looking at the screen and risk an accident or just getting distracted. They say you should look far ahead and not at your front wheel, that way you don't get so tired :) I ride bike trials... so it could interest me, and the problem about not loking a wheel doesn't exist ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
