That's the most braindead shit I've heard since a long time.
Why are you suddenly playing the weenies?
Do you need a huge Carrara-marble tomb-stone with
Mickey, the inventor of OpenMoko?
Just get the shit out and stop talking about September.
And yes, it is a good thing if you keep steering
I have to admit that I kind of agree with Marcus, especially in terms of
leveraging the free marketing that will happen from an early release.
But in order to do this properly, we need to better organize the OpenMoko
support infrastructure.
Support will be required for:
* Hardware issues
* Core
On 1/26/07 8:47 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just get the shit out and stop talking about September. Get the brain
share into it - nobody will mind if you keep doing the decisions.
Can we please keep this list civilized?
This is a great opportunity for Linux/Open Source (add
Salve Gervais!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Gervais Mulongoy wrote:
I have to admit that I kind of agree with Marcus, especially in terms of
leveraging the free marketing that will happen from an early release.
But please not with a buggy hardware...
But in order to do this properly, we need to
Sean please just ignore idiots like this. The rest of us know
you're doing the best job you can and want to see the phone out
ASAP just as much as we do. In summary: ignore the trolls and
keep doing what you're doing.
--pj
On Saturday, Jan 27, 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz writes:
On 1/26/07 9:40
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:35 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Marcus, these kind of comments are not constructive at all. Mickey is a core
member of OpenMoko and is doing an amazing job. You haven't even seen the
work he's done and you're already bashing us?
I honestly believe that OpenEmbedded
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Listen, there's nobody on this list that wishes we'd had this phone out in
January more than I. But delays happen. You can't seriously be calling us
liars now are you?
Gosh no, that would be nonsense!
However I'm sure I'm not the
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From: Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:37:39 +0800
Subject: Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?
On 1/26/07 9:40 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal. I sense his
frustration with not having the device and his concern that others will
get to market first and stealing the 'community made' thunder and of
course in financial speak, the market share.
We all want toys and I'm sure OM is itching at
Dnia piątek, 26 stycznia 2007 19:24, Marcus Bauer napisał:
But if you can produce enough phones, than let all the early adopters
have them, whether they are developers or not.
In projects like this it is normal to write that phones in Phase 0/1 are
target to developers. It is other way to say
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 13:40 -0500, Steven Milburn wrote:
Sean: I think you missed the sarcastic hyperbole that Marcus was
attempting to use. He was basically saying that calling you liars
would be about as wrong as assuming since he didn't reply, he must not
have read a post. It's a weak
Salve Richi!
Good point!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote:
And with that, let me state that I think it important to use Figures of
Speech as little as possible in these mailing list. For one thing, many
of the members of these lists don't have English as their primary
language (I know
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal.
Sorry, David, _I'm_ bluntly vocal, that was simply abusive.
There's a difference, but I've never known either one to speed up a hardware
platform project.
___
OpenMoko community mailing list
I don't agree with his email tone either and neither will he speed up
release of the product. His email was rude and abusive, yes. But him
an idiot, no.
-david
David Schlesinger wrote:
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal.
Sorry, David, _I'm_ bluntly vocal, that was simply
On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Listen, there's nobody on this list that wishes we'd had this phone
out in
January more than I. But delays happen. You can't seriously be
calling us
liars now are you?
Haven been working on a wireless device my self for the past few
Hello all,
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).
So I'm not really a developer, but I'd still like to get me a phone
in March. (can't wait till
Marcel de Jong wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).
So I'm not really a developer, but I'd still like to get me a phone
in
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).
So I'm not
Marcel de Jong writes:
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).
On 1/26/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong writes:
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
I'll risk it anyway... Guess it'll be a rough ride, then, but I'm up
for that. Can't wait another six months for the phone of my dreams. :P
On 1/26/07, Marcel de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/26/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong writes:
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey'
Marcel de Jong wrote:
On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet
Marcel de Jong writes:
Those of us drooling for one of the early phones, knowing what we're
letting ourselves in for, are the beta testers...
Heh, you've got a point there. I know I'm drooling for one of those.
And if we can somehow backup the phone to do some testing, that'd
would be great.
Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list.
You obviously didn't follow the news closely otherwise you would have
already known about
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html,
which clearly indicates the roadmap and talks about September for mass
market
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list.
It shall be.
You obviously didn't follow the news closely otherwise you would have
already known about
On 1/25/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
Hello all,
I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do
have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a
software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).
So I'm not
Salve Marcus,*!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Marcus Bauer wrote:
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list.
It shall be.
It?
Respect is the absolute basic for communication and cooperation.
The fact that I didn't answer
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 02:16 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
An you mean insulting people and guessing about facts helps us here? I
don't think so.
Stop insulting
I'll refrain from harsh words.
buy your phone in march
I'd buy it today already if it would be available.
and show us what
I'd also like to know if the hardware is likely to change between March and
September. I *am* a developer, but that doesn't mean I want to buy another
phone is 6-8 months :)
-Jason
On Thursday 25 January 2007 19:49, Pranav Desai wrote:
On 1/25/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 03:42 +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
I don't think that people buy a new phone to going on holiday with the
new phone - AFAIK the most phones are sold November-January.
People buy phones all year round. And those that do so before their
holidays will come back and make
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