[openBmap] saving old log files

2013-09-24 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello everybody, for those of you who are using openBmap on FreeRunner, there were issues with uploading old files with scanned BTS and AP. To rescue all this valuable data please read this: https://sourceforge.net/p/myposition/discussion/785485/thread/7ed0d6e8/?limit=25 For the rest: sorry for

Re: openBmap: API troubles

2012-01-31 Thread Onen
Hi Michael, could you check your config file, and if the URLs point at realtimeblog.free.fr, replace them by openbmap.org. http://realtimeblog.free.fr/upload/upl.php5 becomes http://openbmap.org/upload/upl.php5 http://realtimeblog.free.fr/getInterfacesVersion.php becomes http://openbmap.org/g

openBmap: API troubles

2012-01-30 Thread qxc
Hi, I'm just trying to access your API as described at http://openbmap.org/api/getGPSfromWifi.html but with no success. These are the RAW data I send to realtimeblog.free.fr: POST /api/getGPSfromWifiAPBSSID.php5 HTTP/1.1 Host: realtimeblog.free.fr Accept: text/xml, application/xml, */* Content-

Re: openBmap

2012-01-18 Thread Onen
Hello, of course we are interested in any help. IIRC we do have a logging client for windows mobile. Nevertheless I do not work on it, Nick does (project's leader). As he does not follow this mailing list, I send right away an email to both of you. Thanks for your interest, Onen On 01/09/2

Re: openBmap

2012-01-10 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > Epic Fail, Sergey! Did you understood, what Sergey meant to say? Could you explain? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments __

Re: openBmap

2012-01-09 Thread Alex Samorukov
On 01/09/2012 01:10 PM, Сергей Попов wrote: Hi, I'm work NET developer about 1 year in Russia Federation. At this moment I would like to take part in the opensource project. I pay attention to your project and would like to offer assistance in writing the software version for Windows Phone 7. Wr

openBmap

2012-01-09 Thread Сергей Попов
Hi, I'm work NET developer about 1 year in Russia Federation. At this moment I would like to take part in the opensource project. I pay attention to your project and would like to offer assistance in writing the software version for Windows Phone 7. Write if you are interested in my proposal. ___

Re: OpenBmap: choosing a network for a tour

2010-09-13 Thread Onen
helps, Onen On 09/13/2010 03:29 PM, Florian Schlichting wrote: > Hi, > > I have several SIM cards from different networks. When planning a tour, > I wonder which one to use for logging cells (in order for the log to be > most generally useful). The cell display on the openbmap

OpenBmap: choosing a network for a tour

2010-09-13 Thread Florian Schlichting
Hi, I have several SIM cards from different networks. When planning a tour, I wonder which one to use for logging cells (in order for the log to be most generally useful). The cell display on the openbmap website is good but far from perfect (I can never be sure to actually see all the cells, no

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-24 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>> Is there already a way to trick ogpsd into using the openbmap-locator >> dbus interface? or is that still future research/improvement? >Not that I know of. I managed to use a configuration for fso-gpsd to use > openbmap-locator but there is nothing that can merge the two

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-24 Thread Yorick Moko
On 10/23/09, Baruch Even wrote: > Yorick Moko wrote: >> when trying to install i get: >> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install >> http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.ipk >> Downloading >> http://cloud.github.com/downloads

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Onen
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > ie. Results where the cellID = (sometimes for serving cell even > when the FR display shows full signal strength). Perhaps > openBmap-locator needs to collect a couple of results in a row if it > doesn't already. > Good point. My logger

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Baruch Even
Yorick Moko wrote: > when trying to install i get: > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install > http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.ipk > Downloading > http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.i

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Baruch Even
your GSM >>>> data (and as such your position) to a third party. >>>> Local service on the phone as openBmap-locator from Baruch is the right >>>> way to go for performance, easiness, and privacy. >>> I look forward to this :) >> Search for openbmap-

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Baruch Even
Yorick Moko wrote: > when trying to install i get: > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install > http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.ipk > Downloading > http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.i

Re: openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Yorick Moko
when trying to install i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://cloud.github.com/downloads/baruch/openbmap-locator/openbmap-locator_0.1_armv4t.ipk Installing openbmap-locator (0.1) to root

openBmap-locator (was Re: Ericsson releases "free" cell-id lookup API)

2009-10-23 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
tion) to a third party. >>> Local service on the phone as openBmap-locator from Baruch is the right >>> way to go for performance, easiness, and privacy. >> I look forward to this :) > > Search for openbmap-locator, it already exists. Though it's still > somewhat

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Again , and clarifiacation: > > ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), > the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) > > > OpenCellID: 433 574 cells > CellHunter: 148 943 cells > OpenBMap: 82 963 ce

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Leonti Bielski wrote: > So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? Please see the nice work from Christian Gagneraud in the archive about comparison of what's get logged/stored by CH, OBM and OCI logger/database: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/049238.html Onen

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Hi Thomas, Thomas Landspurg wrote: > Hello Risto, > > Here is a few facts from such FAQ: > Not all accurate, though. > Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the > 'untrusted ones') > Absolutely correct. Number is on your side. >

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Hi, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects We have imported the opencellid data once, to bring right now better coverage to the users. But this is supposed to be temporary. The target being to have only openBmap data or data from projects wh

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Thanks for the information, I'll subscribe to it. 2009/9/6 Risto H. Kurppa : > Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly > welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list > (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see > discussio

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Hello Risto, note that strengh is already part of the opencellid api. As I've pointed out once, the problem is not all client have access to these data. So do we add all possible fields in the database? Out of the 45 millions of measures, only several millions might have all these data. My

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir > wrote: >> I looked at "common api to submit cells" and found that the openmoko >> OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api >> wanted. Both being opensource, h

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > I looked at "common api to submit cells" and found that the openmoko > OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api > wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the > OBM logger to write th

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
, hopefully the real logger app developers can work something out between themselves. from xml.dom import minidom import os,dbus,urllib """ OBMhunter submitter 0.1.0 Submits appropriate openBMap xml logs to cellhunter DB. Installation: Patch the openBMap logger library: p

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see discussion about the algorithms you use to calculate the position of the cells. It must be something else than jus

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > OpenBmap stores this data: > http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/myposition/wiki/log_format > > * mcc > * mnc > * lon > * lat > * alt > * heading > * speed > * hdop > * vdop > * pdop > * swid: sof

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
th CellsHunter to integrate their database. I think this should be something done ~weekly; syncing the databases. >  I still hope to convince OpenBMap to don't recreate another database > focused on OpenMoko but use and improve a general purpose project. I can't see why openbmap

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
ration has been done once but I hope to integrate this much easily soon... I still hope to convince OpenBMap to don't recreate another database focused on OpenMoko but use and improve a general purpose project. I am sure that that's the spirit of Onen, but it seems that we had some c

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
ply you think you have good reasons not to. I think you should simply > tell what you think. > >  and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he >> >> disappear? > > !!! > > I am trying to contact him since more than a week without >> >&g

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I have no idea what's going on between you people but: Now that I had a little thought, I really don't care how many copies of the database we have. All I care about is that a) there's a way to use the data (=a client capable to locate me based on the GSM cells around me) b) the client uses the d

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Onen
ink you have good reasons not to. I think you should simply tell what you think. and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? !!! I am trying to contact him since more than a week without > success > I find very ironic that you find more than

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/3/09, Thomas Landspurg wrote: >Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions > >I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay > polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? I am trying to co

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Yorick Moko
f disagreement, but I would like first to stay > polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he > disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without > success > > 2009/9/3 Risto H. Kurppa : > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yori

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he disappear? I am trying to contact him since more than a week without success 2009/9

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Yorick Moko wrote: > this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: > > openBmap has the most cells > openBmap maps the most information > > all I want is as much cells as possible > AND > know that I'm logging everything that

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Yorick Moko
> OpenCellID too > > Is there something that stops you from doing so? > > r > > this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: openBmap has the most cells openBmap maps the most information all I want is as much cells as possible AND know that I'm logging everythin

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas Landspurg wrote: >  Again , and clarifiacation: > >  ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), > the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) Yes, I knew that OBM had imported from OCI but to me the only thing that matters is how many ce

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Again , and clarifiacation: ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) OpenCellID: 433 574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells OpenBMap: 82 963 cells (sorry for talking the risk of being the 'bad' guy

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
know where I got it from.. sorry for misleading..) is the number of ALL submits but to me it looks like that the no of cells is around 141371 (NCG) + 7572 (OCnG) = 148 943 cells. The rest are just more gps information for a single cell. Am I wrong? So to recap: OpenBMap: 479740 cells (of which 82963

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
happy. > > Leonti > > Leonti > > On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg wrote: >> Hello Risto, >> >> Here is a few facts from such FAQ: >> >> Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the >> 'untrusted ones') >> >&

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Petr Vanek
>So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? >For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses >some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then >obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. > >Leonti yes, it is lots of fun :) , the websit

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Leonti Bielski
wrote: > Hello Risto, > > Here is a few facts from such FAQ: > > Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the > 'untrusted ones') > > One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID > provides a complete access to the da

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Hello Risto, Here is a few facts from such FAQ: Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the 'untrusted ones') One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. OpenCellId added a &qu

cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-01 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org/pac

Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Heu, yes, thats, me too ( http://landspurg.net/tomsoft/Demos/ ) ;) 2009/8/26 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 08:38:05 Thomas Landspurg wrote: > [...] > > Sorry for hijacking this thread, but... are you the Mr. Vectorballs Thomas > Landspurg or someone else? > > Cheers,

Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])

2009-08-26 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 08:38:05 Thomas Landspurg wrote: [...] Sorry for hijacking this thread, but... are you the Mr. Vectorballs Thomas Landspurg or someone else? Cheers, LPA of TGM-Crew / Thrust / Threat / Traitors / Supreme. ___ Openmoko c

Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])

2009-08-25 Thread Thomas Landspurg
il.com>> >> >>     Thomas, >> >>     After trying to reach you a few times last year, >>     i am really glad to have some news from you now. >> >> >>   The easiest way is to use the email mentionned in the Web page! ;-) >> >> >> >>

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-23 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:57:12PM +0200, Onen wrote: > > Anyone knows if can I freely change this value? <:) > > > > This one is free to change. Nevertheless, we consider that above this, > the GPS position becomes inaccurate. Thus we fear this brings only low > quality data. Ok, thanks! :)

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Onen
> Surprising. With obm running, my FR charges, when plugged into my car. As another response states, maybe your charger brings less power than mine... >>> Is there a way to recover the logging that was done and maybe upload it, >>> or is it all on RAM and tough luck for me?

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
e logging that was done and maybe upload it, > > or is it all on RAM and tough luck for me? > > Just open openBmap and click "Upload". Logs are splitten into smaller > files, you'll probably lost only really small part of your logging > near end. Ah, good, I fear

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I'd guess that a) your charger didn't supply 500mA, maybe only 100mA (-> check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#OM2009_.26_Freerunner ) b) you can manually edit the files and add the missing XML tags to fix the broken files - yes, it's split in smaller files so at most you los

Re: [ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
astes more battery than the charger can give it, so even though > it lasted longer, somewhere near the end the phone just powered off. > > Is there a way to recover the logging that was done and maybe upload it, > or is it all on RAM and tough luck for me? > > Thanks, > Rui >

[ALL] openbmap logger and quit (power, accidental close, etc...)

2009-08-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi, Yesterday night I did about 350 Km of scanning, and the phone was plugged to an USB car charger I bought (from TuxBrain). Unfortunately, even though the phone was in charging mode, it seems that while using the GPS is wastes more battery than the charger can give it, so even though it lasted l

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
restarting a couple of times lets me use paroli, gps and everything with no problems! I actually was able to run 4 apps at the same time using gps, not bad! And Paroli connects to gsm networks nicely. Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi _

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I reflashed om2009 (latest unstable) only to see that paroli can't always login to network (well actually now that I mention it, I was able to see it also on the previous isntallatin - paroli often gave me the about 10 error messages..) here are last lines from /var/log/paroli.log http://pastebin

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
resource might be a good > idea, if FSO can handle more than one app doing it: this way I > shouldnt have to run other apps if I just want to log stuff. FSO can handle more than one app requesting resource (that's what resources are supposed to do by design), but then openBmap will hav

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
apps if I just want to log stuff. >  > I have some problems with GPS, I feel that Tangogps or openbmap alone >  > can't actually ever see any satelites, but if I first start omgps >  > (using ublox), I get a nice fix and then when I start openbmap or >  > tango, it cha

Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-06 Thread Onen
s, if GSM is not up and running, requested by another application, I am not sure of how nice it handles it. > I have some problems with GPS, I feel that Tangogps or openbmap alone > can't actually ever see any satelites, but if I first start omgps > (using ublox), I get a nice fix

(om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing

2009-08-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi! I'm travelling with om2009 unstable from about 2 weeks ago. I'm having hard time running openbmap and recording cells, most of the times it crashes when I try to start it. If paroli doesn't run, it wont start at all. I have some problems with GPS, I feel that Tangogps or openb

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-08-01 Thread Yorick Moko
ive some output through monitoring > interface. But it did not work. > yeah I tried with a SIM that was expired (1year inactivity on a pre-paid SIM --> SIM gets deactivated) it said "SOS only" but openBmap could see anything didn't try AT commands... y __

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-07-31 Thread Onen
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Onen wrote: >> Alex, could you be more specific, I am not sure to understand what you >> have in mind? Are you wondering if we could log cells from other >> operators with only one phone? >> > Exactly. I don't know alot about GSM. On

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-07-29 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Onen wrote: > Alex, could you be more specific, I am not sure to understand what you > have in mind? Are you wondering if we could log cells from other > operators with only one phone? > Exactly. I don't know alot about GSM. On one hand, you can see the other networ

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-07-29 Thread Onen
Hi, thanks for pointing this email from Harald Welte. We have not looked much at the legal side. Because we found a lot of public work (research, etc.) about locating your phone thanks to GSM signals. We also found different projects which uses the GSM data, and log it. And as the data is free

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-07-29 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 28 Jul 2009, at 11:35, Patryk Benderz wrote: >> ... >> Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM >> operators >> in all countries allow us to collect these data? > > The data is publicly observable, so I don't see how they

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out! (Legal status)

2009-07-29 Thread Stroller
On 28 Jul 2009, at 11:35, Patryk Benderz wrote: > ... > Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM > operators > in all countries allow us to collect these data? The data is publicly observable, so I don't see how they can claim any copyright upon it. If you're drawing a

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-28 Thread Marcel
Am Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009 12:35:47 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] > Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM > operators in all countries allow us to collect these data? This data is kinda obvious, one could also walk around and look for GSM anntennas... How would they for

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] Hi, did you considered legal side of this work? I mean, do GSM operators in all countries allow us to collect these data? -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-27 Thread Onen
'regular and dummy user'! > If you use any of the two projects, you contribute to the community, because the data is available from both projects. But I (of course ;-) ) thinks it is better to use openBmap. > I am willing to help but what's the best way to achieve the most

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-27 Thread Tony Berth
Thanks Onen. You are right but I would like to have a 'clear statement' about the cell logging process. If I use one of those 2 applications and submitt my data, do I contribute to the community? That's my goal as a 'regular and dummy user'! I am willing to help but what's the best way to achiev

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-26 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Onen wrote: > Onen wrote: > > Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > >> > >> I've tried using the API page at > >> http://realtimeblog.free.fr/api/getGPSfromGSM.html but it never returns > >> useful results for me even when the map shows a radius. For example > >> given

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-26 Thread Onen
Hi, Onen wrote: > Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: >> >> I've tried using the API page at >> http://realtimeblog.free.fr/api/getGPSfromGSM.html but it never returns >> useful results for me even when the map shows a radius. For example >> given MCC: 505, MNC: 2, LAC: 2624, Cellid: 12213, I get >>

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-26 Thread Onen
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/7/26 Onen : >> What do you mean by having the tiles? Instead of having the regular OSM >> tiles, and overlay the cells positions, you would have a directly >> rendered tile set with cells included? > > yes. i'd like to see locations while i'm on the go, so i can se

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-26 Thread Onen
Hi, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > > For me, the average position markers on the website map give a good but > simple indication of how well covered an area is. I don't know of any > openmoko gps programs that can handle overlaying colored regions but > individual points are represented in Na

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Onen : >> hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles. >> as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i >> think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't >> > > What do you mean by having the tiles? Instead of having t

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread mqy
Onen, glad to see openBmap gets better and better, congratulation :) best regards, mqy Onen wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells > on the website [1]. > > You can now browse and zoom to an area, and

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Onen wrote: > Hi, > > If we could get all the average points for a network/country/region as > > KML, it wouldn't be too hard to convert them into tangogps POIs > > (although then you'd have alot of POIs). > > > > What would be the purpose of displaying the averag

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir : >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson >> wrote: >>> is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the >>> license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells >>> rendered on an alternative ti

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the > license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells > rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in >

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: > > is there any work to get this data into the osm database? No. i assume the > license is compatible? Yes. it would be great to get existing cells > rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in > tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to kno

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir : > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson > wrote: >> >> is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the >> license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells >> rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Yorick Moko
nice work onen/nick! y On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson wrote: > >> >> is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the >> license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells >> rendere

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson wrote: > > is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the > license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells > rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in > tangogps and see where the blank spot

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/25 Onen : > Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells > on the website [1]. > > You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level > of zoom), LACs and cells. > > When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the > it

Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Onen wrote: > > You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level > of zoom), LACs and cells. > > When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the > item. Wow! This is very useful for planning cell id collection trip

[openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi everyone, Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells on the website [1]. You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of zoom), LACs and cells. When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the item. This is s

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-25 Thread Onen
Hi, this has been discussed a couple of times on this mailing list already. You will find the details in the archive here [1]. But to sum it up: We are focusing on quality of data, and not only quantity, because we believe otherwise we will have a big database of useless data. We are intereste

Re: [openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-24 Thread Tony Berth
es > are available in SHR, FSO, Debian, etc feeds. > opkg|apt-get install openbmap-logger ! > > SUMMARY: > > The purpose of this software is to log GSM data, together with > GPS coordinate. This data are sent to the website (www.openbmap.org), > in order to build

[openBmap] GSM/GPS logger 0.4.0 is out!

2009-07-23 Thread Onen
openbmap-logger ! SUMMARY: The purpose of this software is to log GSM data, together with GPS coordinate. This data are sent to the website (www.openbmap.org), in order to build a free database. Possible uses of this database: * get your location based on the current GSM cell you are connected

[openBmap] [Debian] New release of GSM cells logger 0.3.2: now in Debian feeds

2009-07-19 Thread Onen
Hi everyone, a new release has hit the repositories, version 0.3.2. Main highlight: openbmap-logger is now in the Debian feeds thanks to Sebastian Reichel! Summary === The purpose of this software is to log GSM data, together with GPS coordinate. This data are sent to the website

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Onen wrote: > > > The logs should not be lost. They just have not been detected, and > processed by the (broken) server. Tweet is triggered when logs are > detected. Yep! They've shown up today just as expected. > > > Does it say > > anywhere what the delay/pr

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Thanks onen for all your answers, they cleared many unclear things. I think it's essential for an FLOSS project leader / developer to communicate with the users to create a community of users who eventually will start contributing and support your work, see http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/buildi

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: > > in tour $HOME/.openBmap/Logs, i think there's an archive directory > (ProcessedLog or similar). > Not if he answered "yes" to the question about emptying it. But don't

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Correct. Upload is working. Only processing is on test. Onen Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Alex (Maxious) > Sadleir wrote: >> I did a big upload yesterday (52 log files) and unfortunately I let it >> delete the processed ones (After the "Successfully uploaded (52) log

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Sorry, wrong link: http://myposition.wiki.sourceforge.net/GUI_thoughts Onen wrote: >> > > Yep. Some work has been done on the gui. Please have a look and let me > know if this goes in the right direction: > http://myposition.wiki.sourceforge.net/page/edit/GUI_thoughts > > Also I start thinking

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Hi Alex, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: > > I did a big upload yesterday (52 log files) and unfortunately I let it > delete the processed ones (After the "Successfully uploaded (52) log > files" dialog). "Unfortunately" because I haven't seen my > username("lambdacomplex")/cells on the stats pa

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Hi, I think precisely the same. Thanks for the nice comments. Onen kimaidou wrote: > Hi > > + 1 for the hard steps to see the polygone of one cell in the map > trrough all the lists. Why not just show all the cells in the current > zoom level, from e.g zoom level 14 or 15 (to avoid loading to

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Onen
Hi Risto, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > - Collecting cell id's is MUCH more easier than contributing to > openstreetmap.org: all you need to do is start the openbmap app, make > sure it has 3d fix, You don't need to. If you start logging, it will log data *only* if GPS has 3

Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-10 Thread Christian Gagneraud
(52) log > files" dialog). "Unfortunately" because I haven't seen my > username("lambdacomplex")/cells on the stats page or the twitter or on > the map yet so I worry they have been lost in the abyss. Does it say > anywhere what the delay/process is to get the ce

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