Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-06 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> hi,
hi
> >> [...]
> > [...]
> What do you mean by remove android components? just remove them? or
> replace them with standard components?
> for instance the USB function framework can be replaced by the gadget
> framework easily,just changing the .config
I replace them by standartfeatures or new drivers and remove the android 
specific in with this state useless features from the kernel.

> > http://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm-2-6-29
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream

> so which one should I clone,the official one or your repo?
My repo :)

> >> [...]
> > Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too.
> wow! how did you do that? I'm stuck with screen now(I've just made usbnet
> work)
You have to clone my repo. Theres a patch from linux-to-go in it, for the 
msmfb. With this patch Xfbdev starts withouth any problem.
You have only need to describe "trout" in /etc/X11/Xserver
Xfbdev -mouse tslib,/dev/input/touchscreen0 -mouse mouse,/dev/input/mouse1 &
export DISPLAY=:0.0
xtscal &
Calibrate it and enjoy it! ;)

> Denis.
leviathan


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-05 Thread GNUtoo
hi,
>> As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part
>> related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to
>> run the distro of your choice on the G1...
> I did the first step an I've forked the android kernel to remove android
> components.
What do you mean by remove android components? just remove them? or
replace them with standard components?
for instance the USB function framework can be replaced by the gadget
framework easily,just changing the .config
> http://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm-2-6-29
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream
so which one should I clone,the official one or your repo?
>> We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC
>> channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the
>> infrastructure
>> Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say "port" GNU/Linux(with FSO) on
>> it but also replace some android components with free ones
>> so far:
>> *you've got the wifi and the screen working
> Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now.
> Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too.
wow! how did you do that? I'm stuck with screen now(I've just made usbnet
work)

Denis.


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-04 Thread rakshat hooja
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, David Lanzendörfer <
david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch> wrote:

> Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now.
> Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too.
>
>
Screenshot?

Rakshat
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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-04 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> Hi,
Hi

> I finally bought a G1,
Well! Me too.

> As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part
> related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to
> run the distro of your choice on the G1...
I did the first step an I've forked the android kernel to remove android 
components.
http://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm-2-6-29
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream

> We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC
> channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the
> infrastructure
> Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say "port" GNU/Linux(with FSO) on
> it but also replace some android components with free ones
> so far:
> *you've got the wifi and the screen working
Screen works. I've got Enlightment running right now.
Touchscreen and mouse work perfect too.

> *someone tested that program:
> http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/playwav2.c
> with all the proprietary things removed and it worked
Very good!

> so we should be able to have sound too
> but we need something that translate the dspish thing to an alsa thing
> in order to get out of the box support for all applications
> else we could port each library or application to the dsp-ish thing(such
> as mplayer,vlc,pulseaudio,libxine etc...)
> Denis
I would prefer to have a simple /dev/dsp on the kernel

greatings
leviathan
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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-08-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 31 July 2009 22:02:34 GNUtoo wrote:
> http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/playwav2.c
> with all the proprietary things removed and it worked
> so we should be able to have sound too
> but we need something that translate the dspish thing to an alsa thing
> in order to get out of the box support for all applications
> else we could port each library or application to the dsp-ish thing(such
> as mplayer,vlc,pulseaudio,libxine etc...)

I don't think porting every application is a viable approach. Your end-goal 
should be full ALSA support, however as a first step, it might be enough to 
teach FSO how to play sounds using this interface, since then you would have 
at least event notifications (ringtone, incoming sms, alarm, etc.) plus the 
option of a mediaplayer (using the FSO audio interface).

Cheers,

:M:




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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-31 Thread GNUtoo
Hi,
I finally bought a G1,
As you know we first tried to remove(/free) the non-free android part
related to the drivers for the G1,but you came and you made shown how to
run the distro of your choice on the G1...
We are now more organized and we have a name(replicant),and an IRC
channel ( #replicant on freenode),but we are waiting for the rest of the
infrastructure
Our goal is to free the G1,that is to say "port" GNU/Linux(with FSO) on
it but also replace some android components with free ones
so far:
*you've got the wifi and the screen working
*someone tested that program: 
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/playwav2.c
with all the proprietary things removed and it worked
so we should be able to have sound too
but we need something that translate the dspish thing to an alsa thing
in order to get out of the box support for all applications
else we could port each library or application to the dsp-ish thing(such
as mplayer,vlc,pulseaudio,libxine etc...)
Denis




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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-23 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
The experts are on #htc-linux @ freenode. Unfortunately they don't like 
mailing lists, so you have to bug them in real time...

:M:

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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-23 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> I see, thanks. I have asked because audio is currently the show stopper for
> many HTC phones running an FSO userland. We can talk to the modem, send
> sms, connect to the internet via UMTS, and "make calls"... but have no
> audio thanks to the binary-only audio libraries.
Do you know, how I can get running X on the HTC-Dream?
Xfbdev seems to have trouble with msmfb.
And the msmfb seems to have trouble with the X.
It claims about inadequat frames comming in.
Did someone get X running on HTC-Dream?
Could you help me get it running?

greatings
leviathan
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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 16:00:12 David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> > Try #htc-linux on freenode, the experts are there.
> >
> > Btw., haven't seen you responding to my question about audio. Do you have
> > alsa yet?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > :M:
>
> Not tried to get it running yet.

I see, thanks. I have asked because audio is currently the show stopper for 
many HTC phones running an FSO userland. We can talk to the modem, send sms, 
connect to the internet via UMTS, and "make calls"... but have no audio thanks 
to the binary-only audio libraries.

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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-21 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> Try #htc-linux on freenode, the experts are there.
>
> Btw., haven't seen you responding to my question about audio. Do you have
> alsa yet?
>
> Cheers,
>
> :M:

Not tried to get it running yet.
At the moment I've just a framebuffer console and ethernet-gadget+ssh running.
Its a lot of userspace work to do before I can use this phone.

greatings
leviathan


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Try #htc-linux on freenode, the experts are there.

Btw., haven't seen you responding to my question about audio. Do you have alsa 
yet?

Cheers,

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OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-20 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Hi folks.
Ive got a problem to get running the proprietary Wifi driver under OpenMoko.
I ported so far the basic WLAN driver to the modified kernel.
I loaded it succesfully too.
But Ive got a problem with getting it really running, because this 
TI-(Pseudobasic)-C writing habit confuses me and Ive trubble with modifing 
wlan_loader to get it running under OpenMoko.
The problem looks like that:

r...@om-gta02:~#modprobe wlan

r...@om-gta02:~#dmesg
[ 8260.575561] TIWLAN: Driver loading
[ 8260.575927] wifi_probe
[ 8260.575958] trout_wifi_power: 1
[ 8260.781280] trout_wifi_reset: 0
[ 8260.832855] trout_wifi_set_carddetect: 1
[ 8260.832885] mmc0: card_present 1
[ 8260.832916] mmc0: Slot status change detected (0 -> 1)
[ 8263.342529] mmc0: Command timeout
[ 8263.349426] mmc0: card claims to support voltages below the defined range. 
These will be ignored.
[ 8263.349517] mmc0: SDIO card claims to support the incompletely defined 'low 
voltage range'. This will be ignored.
[ 8263.352264] mmc0: new SDIO card at address 0001
[ 8263.353363] TIWLAN: Found SDIO controller (vendor 0x104c, device 0x9066)
[ 8263.363128] tiwlan0 (): not using net_device_ops yet
[ 8263.364471] TIWLAN: Driver initialized (rc 0)
[ 8263.364837] TIWLAN: 1251 PG 1.2
[ 8263.364868] TIWLAN: Driver loaded

r...@om-gta02:~# iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

dummy0no wireless extensions.

rmnet0no wireless extensions.

rmnet1no wireless extensions.

rmnet2no wireless extensions.

usb0  no wireless extensions.

tiwlan0   no wireless extensions.



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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 22:22 +0200, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> > WOW!!!
> Thx
> 
> > me and other people were doing the contrary:
> Ok, I always wondered why someone would install some piece of shit like 
> android on any device, especially on such a great device like the FIC 
> NeoFreerunner.
No I wasn't involved in doing it for the freerunner...just for the
G1...the freerunner already has a free android
> > free the android stack of the G1,mainly because we thought that it was
> > easier(and also easier for me because I've no G1,so I thought that if I
> > had to debug early boot failure it would be a lot harder if I've not the
> > phone and without serial
> > port(https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisedroid/FAQ have serial
> > working ))
> Freeing android? Look please onto the screen!
> First what you see is the google logo. And before cupcake you weren't able to 
> even use it unless you logged into google with a personal account.
> And without hacking you never ever get something like a root shell.
That's what you have by default when buying the G1...we planned to
remove or replace the following:
*proprietary google applications
*proprietary userland "drivers" like the ril,the libgl,*libgps*,etc..
Personally I higly prefer a standard embedded GNU/Linux,for several
reasons:
*better known,so we are sure that there are no spying features
*a lot of applications...no need to port the source code or rewrit
applications
*may(I'm not sure) be easier to make the gps,and telephony(thanks to
FSO) work
> They can write "Linux phone" as long as they want, as long as I cant do 
> anything with it, its worthless.
> When I wanted to have a phone, on which you cant do anything and which data 
> mines you all the time, I also could buy a WindowsCE-Smartphone or an iPhone.
> 
> > so I've some questions:
> > *does the telephony part work?
> > *does the GPS part work?
> > *does the wifi work?
> No, but Im glad, that I got this f* userspace off of my handy.
> 
> > Denis.
> David
Denis


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> WOW!!!
Thx

> me and other people were doing the contrary:
Ok, I always wondered why someone would install some piece of shit like 
android on any device, especially on such a great device like the FIC 
NeoFreerunner.

> free the android stack of the G1,mainly because we thought that it was
> easier(and also easier for me because I've no G1,so I thought that if I
> had to debug early boot failure it would be a lot harder if I've not the
> phone and without serial
> port(https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisedroid/FAQ have serial
> working ))
Freeing android? Look please onto the screen!
First what you see is the google logo. And before cupcake you weren't able to 
even use it unless you logged into google with a personal account.
And without hacking you never ever get something like a root shell.
They can write "Linux phone" as long as they want, as long as I cant do 
anything with it, its worthless.
When I wanted to have a phone, on which you cant do anything and which data 
mines you all the time, I also could buy a WindowsCE-Smartphone or an iPhone.

> so I've some questions:
> *does the telephony part work?
> *does the GPS part work?
> *does the wifi work?
No, but Im glad, that I got this f* userspace off of my handy.

> Denis.
David


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread GNUtoo
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 13:31 +0200, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> ndroid-Handy).
> (framebuffer console)
> That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko (Angstrom) user space.
> When someone is interested in participating the development, youre
> welcome to 
> help me.
> 
> greatings
> leviathan
WOW!!!
me and other people were doing the contrary:
free the android stack of the G1,mainly because we thought that it was
easier(and also easier for me because I've no G1,so I thought that if I
had to debug early boot failure it would be a lot harder if I've not the
phone and without serial
port(https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisedroid/FAQ have serial
working ))
so I've some questions:
*does the telephony part work?
*does the GPS part work?
*does the wifi work?

Denis.



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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Do you have sound?

:M:


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Description for basi setup is done under:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream

Regards David


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread David Lanzendörfer
> Hi,
>
> David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> > Hi Folks
> > I managed to boot OpenMoko on the HTC-Dream (Android-Handy).
> > (framebuffer console) That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko
> > (Angstrom) user space.
>
>   Thats a very interesting thing. A lot of the hardware (read phones) being
> released for android obviously have most of the drivers in the kernel.
>   Can you write about the process to get this going - especially the
> bootloader part somewhere? And if you know about work on the graphics chip
> on the net.
> Thanks

Not finished yet:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread David Lanzendörfer
I think its the best to create a wiki page, in which I describe the steps to 
get OpenMoko running on HTC-Dream. (Ill past the link, as soon as Im finished 
writing)
I had need to use the androids kernel to get it work.
Perhaps we could take their drivers and so on and merge them into our openmoko 
kernel tree?

greatings David

> Hi,
> David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> > Hi Folks
> > I managed to boot OpenMoko on the HTC-Dream (Android-Handy).
> > (framebuffer console) That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko
> > (Angstrom) user space.
>   Thats a very interesting thing. A lot of the hardware (read phones) being
> released for android obviously have most of the drivers in the kernel.
>   Can you write about the process to get this going - especially the
> bootloader part somewhere? And if you know about work on the graphics chip
> on the net.
> Thanks


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Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread c_c

Hi,

David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I managed to boot OpenMoko on the HTC-Dream (Android-Handy).
> (framebuffer console) That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko
> (Angstrom) user space.
> 
  Thats a very interesting thing. A lot of the hardware (read phones) being
released for android obviously have most of the drivers in the kernel. 
  Can you write about the process to get this going - especially the
bootloader part somewhere? And if you know about work on the graphics chip
on the net.
Thanks
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OpenMoko on HTC-Dream

2009-07-19 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Hi Folks
I managed to boot OpenMoko on the HTC-Dream (Android-Handy).
(framebuffer console)
That means: Android linux kernel + OpenMoko (Angstrom) user space.
When someone is interested in participating the development, youre welcome to 
help me.

greatings
leviathan



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