Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 Cheers, Joseph On 07/12/2007, Eric Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hank Williams wrote:

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Schmidt András
In PDA shops you can buy a bicycle mount for PDA's. I hope it will be compatible with the Neo. Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer:

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? The CAD files are out there, all we need is for someone (I've suggested Hope) to CNC a new case for the Neo1973 out of a single block of aluminium that can be bolted to my bike. If they did it right,

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread JW
That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki hardware wishlist too. My thought is aluminium = metal = faraday cage = stops gps, gsm, wifi, bt signals = BAD idea JW

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:46 PM, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my original thought, but then I thought why not go with something a little more exotic? Why do people want metal cases so much...???Features in wiki hardware wishlist too. My thought is aluminium = metal =

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm thinking new case for the Neo, CNC'd from a block of aluminium, it could be just the back and sides, with a carbon fibre face plate with a waterproof, yet touch sensitive screen. Audio via bluetooth, ports protected by screw in aluminium plugs and the whole thing attached to my bike by being

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread David Pottage
On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer: http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/20080306 In PDA shops you can

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Schmidt András
As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional. David Pottage wrote: On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 14:11 +, David Pottage wrote: More of a problem is the fact that the Neo is not waterproof, and if you put it in a waterproof case, the touch screen can't be used. You would just need a decent sealing/joint around the touch screen. I don't think the touchscreen itself

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 06 March 2008, David Pottage wrote: On Thu, March 6, 2008 12:11 pm, Schmidt András wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: Dear all, Please excuse my blatant blog-promotion, but here's a short entry on my use of the Neo1973 and tangoGPS as a bicycle computer:

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 15:27 +0100, Schmidt András wrote: As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional I'd try to go for a joint: -

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Gilles Casse
Le Jeu 6 mars 2008 15:27, Schmidt András a écrit : As the Neo's screen is pressure based (not capacitive) it could be possible to be used through a thin plastic layer. There are PDA bags which cover the touch screen and it still remains functional. You will have to check if the heat

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread JW
On 06/03/2008, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking new case for the Neo, CNC'd from a block of aluminium, it could be just the back and sides, with a carbon fibre face plate with a waterproof, yet touch sensitive screen. Audio via bluetooth, ports Joseph Did you not see my

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread joerg
Am Do 6. März 2008 schrieb Marcus Bauer: I'd try to go for a joint: - |ooo -- silicone joint -- ooo| | =TS | | | |-case| (cut through the phone) Caveat: the

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Andy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carbon Fiber can also be conductive and can create a Faraday cage, so be careful! possibly getting an over-case and mounting it on the handlebars would work, ideas at: http://www.otterbox.com/ - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2008-03-06 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Andy writes: Carbon Fiber can also be conductive and can create a Faraday cage, so be careful! I'm actually trying to remember if I've ever seen transparent carbon fiber... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-07 Thread Eric Preston
Hank Williams wrote: standard. Is gpio a wireless signaling standard? If so, I was not able to find it. It seems like a wired standard, and if it is a wired By GPIO I'm pretty sure he means signals that are friendly for interfacing to a CPU or other chips general purpose i/o lines. As

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
You can get receivers for Polar chest straps that signal beats with gpio-accessible pulses. If the Neo1973 isn't completely packed inside, it should be an easy add-on. I dont understand what you are saying here. Are you saying there is a wireless reciever on the market which can be purchased

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
On Dec 4, 2007 7:11 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. ok, but what is the protocol.

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Neil Davey
Hi Hank, I think what he's saying is that you can get after market receivers for polar chest straps eg http://www.concept2.com/us/products/heart/default.asp, which I have used myself in projects.. These can be easily interfaced to a micro (or the Neo in this case).. measure the time between

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a receiver chip one could buy to detect these magnetic

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Neil Davey
If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. I have some docs somewhere but can not find them at the moment.. >From a google search there is a page that talks about the transmitter

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, hank williams wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 7:39 AM, Neil Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are referring to the signal from the Polar straps, it is not really a protocol... It is just a magnetic pules transmitted when the heart beat occurs.. so is there a

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread William Voorhees
The Polar HR Monitor equipment does a very simple 5hz pulse that can then be picked up and counted to get HR data.The hardware simply amplifies pluses in the 5hz frequency range, which could then be fed into a General Purpose Input Output (GPIO) line on the Neo 1973 itself. This is great because

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread hank williams
Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are these: http://www.thisisant.com/index.php?section=31 Thanks, Yes I am familiar with ant, but was curious if polar was the same thing or some different broadcast system. Hank

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-04 Thread William Voorhees
Does anyone have any experience with the Hardware side of things? Possibility of integrating ANT directly into the Neo 1973? -Will On Dec 4, 2007 10:47 AM, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure about the Polar units, but for things using ANT like the suunto cheststraps there are

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-03 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, hank williams wrote: - external sensors (cadence, heart rate) Many bicycle computers show cadence and heartrate, based on input from external sensors. Could something like that be done with the Neo? I am a cyclist and these inputs would be critical for me. All

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 03/12/2007, Christian Surlykke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. great idea do you know of the projects part of the openmoko site? http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosport/ is listed there, and seems

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread hank williams
- external sensors (cadence, heart rate) Many bicycle computers show cadence and heartrate, based on input from external sensors. Could something like that be done with the Neo? I am a cyclist and these inputs would be critical for me. All that stuff is wireless. I wonder if it would be

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread Giles Jones
On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: Hello I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. I have a Garmin Forerunner and the battery life is 10 hours. I'm not sure the Neo could last

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread William Voorhees
I've looked into this quite a bit, if you'd like to integrate with a HR Monitor/Cadience/Speed sensor the option that makes the most sense is to use the ANT(thisisant.com) wireless protocol to interact with any of the sensor made by garmin or suunto.Suunto produces a USB-Ant interface called the

RE: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread Oliver Uvman
Would it still be possible to use the touchscreen then? Doesn't really matter since you'll have accelerometers. Give it a light knock to the left to see stat screen X, knock it to the right to stat screen Y, knock it right on to light up the screen. Make it do an automated 911 call with recorded

Re: Application idea: Bicycle computer

2007-12-02 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:18:06 +, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Dec 2007, at 14:41, Christian Surlykke wrote: Hello I'm interested in using the neo1973 as a bicycle-computer, utilizing it's gps abilities. Any comments/insights would be appreciated.. I have a Garmin