Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-19 Thread Olivier Berger
Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On FreeRunner 2007.2, I did: > opkg install openmoko-browser2 > and also installed the full keyboard per instructions here: > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 > > Now I browse to Google or any site with a form entry box and I cannot > figure out how to enter te

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-12 Thread Michael Kluge
Al Johnson schrieb: > On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: > >> Al Johnson schrieb: >> >>> On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: >>> Brian C schrieb: > I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser > (and/or change the

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: > Al Johnson schrieb: > > On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: > >> Brian C schrieb: > >>> I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser > >>> (and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or > >>> am

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-12 Thread Michael Kluge
Al Johnson schrieb: > On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: > >> Brian C schrieb: >> >>> I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser >>> (and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or >>> am I missing something? Right now the fonts are

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote: > Brian C schrieb: > > I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser > > (and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or > > am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I see far > > too littl

Re: Web Browser Zoom?

2008-07-11 Thread Michael Kluge
Brian C schrieb: > I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser > (and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or > am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I see far > too little of the page for it to be really usable. > > Brian >

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Jim Morris
To answer my own question, yes it does only work with the matchbox keyboard. Have you noticed that the sound and tapping feedback stops when you do this or use the matchbox-keyboard? or is it just me? Jim Morris wrote: > I added keyboard as you suggested, but it didn't add anything to the panel

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Brian C
Alexander Syring wrote: > I have a symbol in my panel add the following to /etc/matchbox/session > > matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup \ > --end-applets > openmoko-panel-clock,keyboard,openmoko-panel-battery,openmoko-panel-gsm,openmoko-panel-gps,openmoko-panel-usb,openmoko-p > an

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Jim Morris
I added keyboard as you suggested, but it didn't add anything to the panel, does that only work with the matchbox kbd? Thanks Alexander Syring wrote: > Am Samstag, 12. Juli 2008 00:20:16 schrieb Jim Morris: >> It seems form input does not bring up the keyboard, I have tried with the >> default

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Alexander Syring
Am Samstag, 12. Juli 2008 00:20:16 schrieb Jim Morris: > It seems form input does not bring up the keyboard, I have tried with the > default multi-tap and the same thing happens, try logging into m.gmail.com > for instance, there is no way to input the login credentials. > > Any other way to force

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Jim Morris
It seems form input does not bring up the keyboard, I have tried with the default multi-tap and the same thing happens, try logging into m.gmail.com for instance, there is no way to input the login credentials. Any other way to force a keyboard? Brian C wrote: > Michael Kluge wrote: >> Brian

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Brian C
Michael Kluge wrote: > Brian C schrieb: >> On FreeRunner 2007.2, I did: >> opkg install openmoko-browser2 >> and also installed the full keyboard per instructions here: >> http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 >> >> Now I browse to Google or any site with a form entry box and I cannot >> figure out how t

Re: Web Browser Form Entry?

2008-07-11 Thread Michael Kluge
Brian C schrieb: > On FreeRunner 2007.2, I did: > opkg install openmoko-browser2 > and also installed the full keyboard per instructions here: > http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 > > Now I browse to Google or any site with a form entry box and I cannot > figure out how to enter text into the form. W

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-13 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Hans L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim Shannon schrieb: > > > > > > > I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that > toggles > > from touching the screen to scroll around (u

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-13 Thread Hans L
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Shannon schrieb: > > > > I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that toggles > from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left, right), and > interacting with a webpage. If your in "interaction"

RE: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread steve
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simarillion Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:29 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Web Browser? Am Mittwoch 09 April 2008 10:08:10 schrieb Ricky Fitz: > Probably use the accelerometers for this?

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Tim Shannon
Yeah, you're probably right, but either way there has to be a better solution that what is currently implemented. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Shannon schrieb: > > > I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that > > toggles from touch

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread enaut
Tim Shannon schrieb: I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that toggles from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left, right), and interacting with a webpage. If your in "interaction" mode, then have the tiny scroll bars, else leave them off. in your proposa

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Tim Shannon
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that toggles from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left, right), and interacting with a webpage. If your in "interaction" mode, then have the tiny scroll bars, else leave them off. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Tilma

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/9/08, Antoine Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > Probably use the accelerometers for this? If phone bends over a few > > degrees, scroll down or up... ? > People who will use the device in the bus or in the car will hate you, > unless there is an *easy* way to disable those small gestures

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Tilman Baumann
Antoine Reid wrote: While I don't mind using large gestures to perform some operations (like turning the phone upside-down to prevent it from ringing), I don't think small gestures should be on by default. Otherwise, it'll be very hard to use in any case other than sitting down and almost no

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Antoine Reid
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Ricky Fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience. > > I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works > > just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the >

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Tilman Baumann
Ricky Fitz wrote: Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience. I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the extremely high dpi of the screen. It just needs some usability t

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread simarillion
Am Mittwoch 09 April 2008 10:08:10 schrieb Ricky Fitz: > Probably use the accelerometers for this? If phone bends over a few > degrees, scroll down or up... ? I think this is a great and innovative idea. Does somebody know which resolution can be achieved with those acceleration sensors (single

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-09 Thread Ricky Fitz
> Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience. > I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works > just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the > extremely high dpi of the screen. > It just needs some usability tweaks. Lik

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-08 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Also, remember to set: # TAG: redirect_program redirect_program /usr/bin/squidGuard and to filter flash (I forgot), you can create a rule like this: acl annoying3 url_regex \.flv \.swf and use the rule: http_access deny annoying3 -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http:

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-08 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/8/08, christooss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Flemming Richter Mikkelsen said: > > > I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:) > > But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one > > option is the only correct one. I would love to see both li

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-08 Thread christooss
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen said: I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:) But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one option is the only correct one. I would love to see both links and more advanced browsers being supported over time.

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-08 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:) But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one option is the only correct one. I would love to see both links and more advanced browsers being supported over time. -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPo

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
ewanm89 wrote: On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc. However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun is 'links' which does have a graph

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: 2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Mobile versions for certain pages are a reasonable choice. But nothing you can depend on. True The Web[tm] just is not mobile. At least not yet. The Web shouldn't be mobile neither desktop... it should

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread thomasg
I cannot agree. We're not talking about the tries to create a mobile web, like wap and co. did. They had some good ideas, but the concept was useless, because nobody wanted to have a second, way smaller net. We're talking about rendering normal webpages to make them fit the devices screen. The neo

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Mobile versions for certain pages are a reasonable choice. But nothing you > can depend on. True > The Web[tm] just is not mobile. At least not yet. The Web shouldn't be mobile neither desktop... it should be "ubiquos" > This is the reason why

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: 2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It just needs some usability tweaks. Like scrolling without the scrollbars. Like Opera does (not opera mini) on the Nokia N770 and successors. Which are by the way a good example for a really good mobile brow

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My opinion is just the opposite. There where many attempts to create > something like a mobile web. And all failed miserably. (wap, imode, crappy > limited browsers) Yes, that's the reason for "One Web"[1]: One Web means making, as far as is reasona

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Tilman Baumann
thomasg wrote: In my honest opinion a iphone-browser is not the solution - it's a tribute to bad webdesign, nothing else. Desktop-like rendering and therefore needed zooming is exhausting and is leading rendering to the point auf absurdity. Rendering is used to make things fit - not to make th

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Just some questions... Does OpenMoko include a web browser? If yes: Is it included in wurfl[1] file? Does it send x-wap-profile header with a link to a rdf describing its capabilities[2]? Perhaps this could help to implement a Device Description to help web servers to send the right content to t

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread thomasg
You really might consider using links -g for that. It's blazingly fast (speed is _only_ limitted by the connection!), needs nearby no ressources and it can save some traffic by turning pictures off. Opera Mini uses a kind of transparent proxy to compress the sites - it would be possible to create a

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Erland Lewin
Will Opera Mini run on the Freerunner? I asked this before, but didn't get a reply. I assume it depends on how well J2ME works on the Freerunner. IMHO, the Opera Mini design (compressing and optimizing web pages before sending them to the phone) is excellent, because it saves traffic (=money) and

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Monday 07 of April 2008, Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano napisał: > Just a question, may be it was answered somewhere in th list but why > webkit and not the gecko? 1. Memory usage of Gecko (most of leaks got fixed in 1.9) 2. Easy embedding of WebKit 3. Rapid development of WebKit. 4. WebKit devel

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-06 Thread Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano
ewanm89 ha scritto: On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Webkit is the rendering engine of safari (including iphone version). Just a question, may be it was answered somewhere in th list but why webkit and not the gecko? (no flam

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-06 Thread ewanm89
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200 "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marcus Bauer wrote: > > The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc. > > > > However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun > > is 'links' which does have a graphi

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-06 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marcus Bauer wrote: The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc. However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun is 'links' which does have a graphics mode and simply ignores most CSS. But it is blazingly fast and many pages are better readable with it -

Re: Web Browser?

2008-04-06 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 11:22 -0700, Uncle Kridley wrote: > What sort of browser will Openmoko have? From various postings on the > lists I get them impression that there is a (somewhat) working browser, > but the wiki page is very sketchy. > > Will/does it support the following? > > *) Javascript

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Pedro Aguilar
Hi, Sometime ago there was a patch for Dillo (when it was still alpha) for supporting SSL. However, I don't know of any open-source browser for embedded systems based on GTK+ 2 that supports SSL and Javascript, so this could be an interesting project. Pedro Aguilar > Perhaps, but: > > - They see

consider to use a proxy Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with > javascript machine, etc)? Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing. So a Proxy on the Ne

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> Hi, > > There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo > such as Dillo and Skipstone. > Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be > another alternative. AFAIK, none of those has support for javascript and DOM. Which make those not very us

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Perhaps, but: - They seem to be based in "old" Gtk 1.x. Dillo was the web browser for GPE until GPE got 2.x and Dillo didn't update. - Do they support SSL connections? Best regards, 2007/1/24, Pedro Aguilar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Pedro Aguilar
Hi, There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo such as Dillo and Skipstone. Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be another alternative. Pedro Aguilar > Hello. > > Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with >

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
I am not sure if Gtk-WebCore is alive, but it seems to be, since GPE-Minibrowser seems alive. Check gtk-webcore site[1] and mailing list[2] for more info. [1] http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=121646 2007/1/24, Alexander McLeay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Alexander McLeay
On 24.01.07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, - Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device. - And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some "community love" ;-) Is Gtk-Web Core still being maintained? I was of the

Re: web browser

2007-01-24 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Hello, - Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device. - And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some "community love" ;-) Best regards, 2007/1/23, Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello. Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web

Re: web browser

2007-01-23 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 23 stycznia 2007 23:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: > besides, there's a konqueror version from handhelds.org called > "konqueror embedded" - i'm not sure if that's developed any further, > but it certainly adds qt blob (we're using gtk), so at the end you'll > probably waste as much s

Re: web browser

2007-01-23 Thread soeren
Hi, sorry, I don't know the status, but for opera you probably just need to ask the opera guys to compile it for our architecture (i386 won't work here). besides, there's a konqueror version from handhelds.org called "konqueror embedded" - i'm not sure if that's developed any further, but it cert