In a previous e-mail it was confirmed that the driver for the SMedia
accelerator found in the GTA02 will take the form of a KDrive driver.
(Correct?)
Given that the chip is OpenGL ES 1.2 compliant and the SMedia datasheet
(At least for the 3370, no datasheet for the 3362) claim Embedded
Linux
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:10:48PM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what exactly is not enough? You will get 100% free software drivers,
down to the latest bit, no proprietary firmware whatsoever, plus
hardware documentation that will be
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal you
currently have with SMedia. I wouldn't be
ma, 2007-09-10 kello 15:20 +0800, Harald Welte kirjoitti:
guys, as I indicated before, we already have the best possible support
from Smedia. Not only have we some promises or statements, but we
actually have signed a contract with them, binding them to support us
to the utmost level.
As
On Monday 10 September 2007 09:20:54 Harald Welte wrote:
So what exactly is not enough? You will get 100% free software drivers,
down to the latest bit, no proprietary firmware whatsoever, plus
hardware documentation that will be prepared by OpenMoko ?
Which part exactly are you missing?
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
guys, as I indicated before, we already have the best possible support
from Smedia. Not only have we some promises or statements, but we
actually have signed a contract with them, binding them to support us
to the utmost level.
As indicated
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał:
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't understand before that it would end up being 100% open
source. I thought you had to sign an NDA? But if the driver is to be
completely open, and the documents are to be
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I
don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal you
currently have with SMedia. I wouldn't be surprised if the people you
were talking to had no idea this sort of
What exactly will the driver actually be? As far as I can tell there
are several options:
1) A DRI/DRM kernel module associated mesa module
2) A hacked up KDrive with accelerated driver
3) An xorg EXA/XAA driver
4) A DirectFB kernel module
5) A bog-standard Linux frame buffer device
Does anyone
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:44:20PM +0100, Ian Stirling wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
depending on the timeframe,
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:19:22PM +0100, Giles Jones wrote:
On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
You're implying there are better choices...
I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have mobile
GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 04:31:00PM +0100, Giles Jones wrote:
On 1 Sep 2007, at 16:07, Ian Stirling wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
There is as I understand it at the moment only a dumb
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Why do you think we have spent many weeks, if not months to meet with
each and every graphics chip vendor? We're not that stupid, eh.
It was a very painful and long process to finally find one company that
was not fundamentally opposed to free
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
So are you claiming the open source drivers that we are writing are not
open source, merely by the fact that we are writing them? Using this
argument, the entire openmoko software stack would not be open source,
because we are writing it.
I
Giles Jones wrote:
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
So are you claiming the open source drivers that we are writing are not
open source, merely by the fact that we are writing them? Using this
argument, the entire openmoko software stack would not be open source,
because we are
Harald Welte writes:
On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 04:31:00PM +0100, Giles Jones wrote:
Seems like an odd choice of unit then for an open source phone.
So are you claiming the open source drivers that we are writing are not
open source, merely by the fact that we are writing them? Using this
So are you claiming the open source drivers that we are writing are
not
open source, merely by the fact that we are writing them? Using this
argument, the entire openmoko software stack would not be open
source,
because we are writing it.
So are you going to release the source code to the
Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Well... not speaking for Giles, but the drivers I've seen for closed
chipsets have generally involved a thin open-source wrapper around a
closed binary driver. Letting you write a real open-source driver
while demanding NDA to see the specs you're
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Well... not speaking for Giles, but the drivers I've seen for closed
chipsets have generally involved a thin open-source wrapper around a
closed binary driver. Letting you write a real open-source driver
while demanding NDA to see the specs
Dnia niedziela, 2 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał:
What about the ATI chip used in the iPAQ hx4700? Did anybody figure
out anything beyond plain framebuffer support for it?
hx4700 use ATI W100 Imageon about which I already wrote. AFAIK it has
accelerated framebuffer and X11 driver with
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
There is as I understand it at the moment only a dumb driver for it,
using it as a framebuffer.
Unfortunately, documents are only available under NDA.
This means
On 1 Sep 2007, at 16:07, Ian Stirling wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
There is as I understand it at the moment only a dumb driver for
it, using it as a framebuffer.
Unfortunately,
la, 2007-09-01 kello 16:31 +0100, Giles Jones kirjoitti:
On 1 Sep 2007, at 16:07, Ian Stirling wrote:
Unfortunately, documents are only available under NDA.
This means that only FIC can write the drivers.
Seems like an odd choice of unit then for an open source phone.
You're implying
On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
You're implying there are better choices...
I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have
mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would
do the same for their mobile devices?
la, 2007-09-01 kello 17:19 +0100, Giles Jones kirjoitti:
I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things. But ATI have
mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers, maybe they would
do the same for their mobile devices?
ATI's intentions to open source their GPU drivers have
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Giles Jones napisał:
On 1 Sep 2007, at 17:11, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
You're implying there are better choices...
I wouldn't know since I've not looked into such things.
But ATI have mobile GPUs and are open sourcing desktop drivers,
maybe they would do the same
On 1 Sep 2007, at 19:15, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
So if you want to use Linux on anything avoid ATI.
Well Intel seem to be getting praise on the graphics front for their
support of open source. They've licenced PowerVR for embedded chips,
so who knows.
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the
opengraphics people with their project, the goal of which is to create a
graphics controller asic
On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the
opengraphics people with their project, the
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał:
What about the XScale accelerators? There was one designed
specifically as a companion to the PXA270. Are they more open?
Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source released was mess afaik.
My Zaurus has a TC6393; it has line-drawing
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the
opengraphics people
On 9/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał:
What about the XScale accelerators? There was one designed
specifically as a companion to the PXA270. Are they more open?
Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source released was
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 9/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/1/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FPGAs of equivalent size are _NOT_ cheap, or low power.
I'd guess the SMedia chip is $20 or so.
Now, go and look for a low power FPGA with the thick end of a
On 9/1/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is the NVIDIA GoForce 4800 and I don't see datasheets for it either.
I found datasheets with real, substantial datasheets for these:
Silicon Motion SM502
Phillips/NXP PNX17XX series
Renesas HD64412
Epson S1D13513 (but it only has bitblt
Is there any technical info available about this chip?
Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress?
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