Did a 3000+km roadtrip a while ago;
navigated with FR to my destination (navit)
searched for lakes or woods nearby to camp in (tangogps)
checked out the constellations (orrery)
converted different currencies (mokoconv)
listened to music in the car by connecting the FR to the car-radio (intone
and c
Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread.
Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was
absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup
photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode (and onwards to USB stick
or over WLAN/SSH to home comp
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nicola Mfb wrote:
[..]
> So it works for me (some random kernel ops), and works for you, but
> saying WiFi works fine on freerunner may seems a joke IMHO.
I was lucky, just now my FR crashed with om2009 while trying to using wifi:
Unable to handle kernel NULL poi
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:24 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
[...]
> BT as A2DP (music playback) works for me using a motorola S9 headset.
> Have not tried to get GSM working through it yet. wifi works well,
> except I find it quite insensitive compared to most laptops in direct
> comparison (I use w
Joerg Lippmann ha scritto:
> When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete?
>
Please see below...
> Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I can
> neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too
> slow, too battery-hungry)
mobi phil writes:
>
> So... my question is ... is it a joke
[...]
> In this case I would really advice people to refrain in buying the
> openmoko, and better go for glofiish M800, that has a keyboard and
> radio as plus
... and that, it appears, also has a $300 higher MSRP. Almost twice as
much a
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 16:38 -0400, David Ford wrote:
> i don't know where you got this information, but by far and large the OM
> phones have never been touted as ready for end users by OM, or by the
> developers working on the neo1973 or freerunner software.
>
Actually - when first released it wa
On 15/07/2009 5:32 AM, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
[... snip info about possible future development ...]
> When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete?
That's up to individual perspective. I've been playing with openwrt and
embedded devices for a while and all purchases made well over 5 y
Joerg Lippmann schrieb:
> Am Montag 13 Juli 2009 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokov
>> wrote: [...]
>>
>>
Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
[...]
>> AFAIK there is still some space for improvement in general responsiveness.
>> Actually there is a busy loop eating CPU to wait for graphical
>> operations to complete.
>> There are working in progress to avoid that. When the fix will b
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
> Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I
> can
> neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too
> slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I
> real
This reminds me of the situation with linux a few years back. When I was
trying it out on my desktop for the first time, it would take me days to
configure x-window drivers, sound card, etc, and have a working winmodem was
next to impossible. After I managed to do it, I ran around telling people
ho
i don't know where you got this information, but by far and large the OM
phones have never been touted as ready for end users by OM, or by the
developers working on the neo1973 or freerunner software.
while i share your angst that the phone has been out for so long and
software is still pretty rou
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
> Am Montag 13 Juli 2009 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokov
>> wrote: [...]
>>
>> >> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
>> >> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc,
Am Montag 13 Juli 2009 schrieb Nicola Mfb:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokov
> wrote: [...]
>
> >> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
> >> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the
> >> phone usable etc, and it turns o
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:30:29 -0700
Ben Wong wrote:
> Thank you, Maddog, for your trenchant comment. I was having trouble
> verbalizing a response to mobiphil, but you've hit it exactly. To
> consider Openmoko a failure for having lower GPU performance is to
> misunderstand what Openmoko is abou
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
> Hello mobiphil,
>
>>and use those phones as reference...Again, M800 has
>>keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only
>>64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than
>>several slower... So
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokov wrote:
[...]
>> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I was
>> waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the phone
>> usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be. With the slow bus, one
>> ca
On 7/13/09, mobi phil wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> That depends on your sense of humour ;-)
>>
>>
> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I was
> waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the phone
> usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be. Wi
Hello mobiphil,
>They found a very cheap solution, they sold the devices for lot of
>money, practically they fooled lot of people. I can imagine the company
>manager behind smiling about all the complain emails and
>naive users still hoping their freerunner will display nicely one day.
Having wor
> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the
> phone usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be
> [...]
> They found a very cheap solution, they
> sold the devices for lot of money, p
mobi phil ha scritto:
>
>
>
> That depends on your sense of humour ;-)
>
>
> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make
> the phone usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:01 PM, mobi phil wrote:
>
>>
>> That depends on your sense of humour ;-)
>>
>>
> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I
> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the
> phone usable etc, and it turns out, that i
> I find openmoko, better say freedesktop as a nice project, and even
> openmoko
> name should be avoided. They found a very cheap solution, they sold the
> devices for lot of money, practically they fooled lot of people. I can
> imagine the company manager behind smiling about all the complain e
>
>
>
> That depends on your sense of humour ;-)
>
>
Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I was
waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the phone
usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be. With the slow bus, one
can forget about acce
On Monday 13 July 2009, mobi phil wrote:
> Hello all
>
> I spent this weekend some time to compare and to try to understand what is
> slow, why is openmoko slow... At least concerning the display I came to the
> concusion that X windows is/should not too much to blame.
>
> I installed the latest SH
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:02:38PM +0200, mobi phil wrote:
> I spent this weekend some time to compare and to try to understand what is
> slow, why is openmoko slow... At least concerning the display I came to the
> concusion that X windows is/should not too much to blame.
Not X, but the bandwidth
Hello all
I spent this weekend some time to compare and to try to understand what is
slow, why is openmoko slow... At least concerning the display I came to the
concusion that X windows is/should not too much to blame.
I installed the latest SHR distro on a mSD card, and run it both on
Freerunner
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