[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-30 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community, Please see my comments below, inline... Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> a écrit : > > > > On Jul 27, 2021, at 12:30 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss < > community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: >

[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-30 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community, Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> a écrit : > > > > On Jul 27, 2021, at 13:27 , Barry Macharia > wrote: > > > > [...] > > Otherwise, I will presume that your statement applies to the general > requirement in

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread AMADU YUSIF
I really agree with you. Let us not forget that the only RIR we have in our region is AFRINIC. Let us try to protect it no matter how. I think nobody owns AFRINIC, but the way we are fighting looks like AFRINIC is person who has faulted and want to push it. Let is not forget that when you cut

[Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

2021-07-30 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community, Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> a écrit : > > >> >>> [...] >> >> >> > You’re not answering the question I asked… > > Hi Owen, Thanks for your email, brother! > What is your basis in policy for claiming

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread Noah
Hi Bill, On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, 03:34 Bill Woodcock, wrote: > > > > On Jul 29, 2021, at 6:18 PM, Noah wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:19 AM Paul Wollner < > paul.woll...@africaoncloud.net> wrote: > > The concerns expressed by TISPA, > > > > TISPA's support of solidarity is with

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread Noah
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:02 PM Ish Sookun via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Friday, 30 July 2021 01:12:38 +04 Paul Wollner wrote: > > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's > > hostage, for the interest of continue

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jul 29, 2021, at 23:53 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > I understand what you mean, but is not so simple ... I don't know Mauritius, > but if the justice system works there and you fail to pay to a DPA fine, and > there is not a reciprocal specific with US, do

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

2021-07-30 Thread Sami Salih
Thanks Noah this is really important, we need to know who is supporting our organization in this hard time. Get Outlook for Android From: Noah Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 2:35:38 PM To: AfriNIC Discuss ; General Discussions of AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE
Dear Paul, I am surprised by this. Why would you think it is in anyone's interest for AFRINIC to close shop. I can't imagine that. AFRINIC has come to stay like any of the other RIRs. Mistakes might have been made who knows ? but am sure it's not the end of the world. Things can still be corrected

[Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

2021-07-30 Thread Noah
Dear Members and the wider AFRICAN Community. I note that the ISP Association of South Africa has made a public statement as well following TISPA'S public statement on recent AFRINIC developments. I thought it was important to share the same with the rest of you in case you missed this important

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

2021-07-30 Thread Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
So - while you seem certainly capable of spinning narrative and typing pages of stuff to fill my inbox - you seem incapable of addressing some pretty simple questions - that had nothing to do with the statement but rather the consistent use of words like “Our” and “We” etc etc in reference to

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

2021-07-30 Thread Noah
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, 11:33 Andrew Alston, wrote: > Noah - let me just be clear on something. > > Do you claim to speak for TISPA and all its members? > Read the statement. Are you claiming that all TISPA members endorse AfriNIC and it’s behavior > in this matter? > Read the statement. > I

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Ronald, On Friday, 30 July 2021 13:04:37 +04 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Assuming that the answer to all three questions is "no" then your opinion > on this matter has no more weight or validity than mine. I didn't say my words are truer than yours. I expressed what I believe and I believe

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Ish Sookun via Community-Discuss
Hi Ronald, On Friday, 30 July 2021 12:51:14 +04 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > A police report was filed more than a year and a half ago about Ernest's > huge and fully proven embezzlement scheme, which amounted to tens of > millions of dollars worth of stuff. Has he been arested? Has he even >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <6461148.bqoun3lxAu@coffee-bar>, Ish Sookun wrote: >On Friday, 30 July 2021 03:47:51 +04 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> You're confused Jordi. Do you really think that just by sitting here >> in California and using the AFRINIC WHOIS server, I have subjected >> myself to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread Ish Sookun via Community-Discuss
Hi Paul, On Friday, 30 July 2021 01:12:38 +04 Paul Wollner wrote: > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's > hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry > service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as > well

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >I understand what you mean, but is not so simple ... I don't know >Mauritius, but if the justice system works there ... Who claimed that the justice system works there? A police report was filed more than a year and a half ago about Ernest's huge and

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Ish Sookun via Community-Discuss
Hi Ronald, On Friday, 30 July 2021 03:47:51 +04 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > You're confused Jordi. Do you really think that just by sitting here > in California and using the AFRINIC WHOIS server, I have subjected > myself to the jurisdiction of Mauritius?? I believe by using a service offered

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

2021-07-30 Thread Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
Noah - let me just be clear on something. Do you claim to speak for TISPA and all its members? Are you claiming that all TISPA members endorse AfriNIC and it’s behavior in this matter? I just want clarification on this… Andrew Get Outlook for iOS

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss
I understand what you mean, but is not so simple ... I don't know Mauritius, but if the justice system works there and you fail to pay to a DPA fine, and there is not a reciprocal specific with US, do you believe you will be able to come to Mauritius without risking detention or do business

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

2021-07-30 Thread Matogoro Jabera
I am sending my congratulations to TISPA for showing the way. This has been our spirit since then, we will always be there for any initiative designed to impact African Independence and to be specific in the support of AFRINIC. "The role of Tanzania in fostering African Liberation movements The

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-30 Thread Matogoro Jabera
I am sending my congratulations to TISPA for showing the way. This has been our spirit since then, we will always be there for any initiative designed to impact African Independence and to be specific in the support of AFRINIC. "The role of Tanzania in fostering African Liberation movements The

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

2021-07-30 Thread Matogoro Jabera
I am sending my congratulations to TISPA for showing the way. This has been our spirit since then, we will always be there for any initiative designed to impact African Independence and to be specific in the support of AFRINIC. "The role of Tanzania in fostering African Liberation movements The

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

2021-07-30 Thread Matogoro Jabera
I am sending my congratulations to TISPA for showing the way. This has been our spirit since then, we will always be there for any initiative designed to impact African Independence to its matter. "The role of Tanzania in fostering African Liberation movements The emergence of organised popular