Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
Hi Owen, Well - it depends. If a non-quorate meeting was called and then adjourned for 24 hours and reconvened they would gain quorum under the bylaws. The question becomes - and this is where I am uncertain and believe it is open to debate - can a meeting be called knowing full well that

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
Consider it like this - In a corporate - there is a thing called a delegation of authority. Multiple individuals may have delegated authority to do a single task. For example, if you look at the board resolution that sets up the AfriNIC reserve fund - there is delegation of authority to

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
In regards to the below thread - let me point out that at the agmm - the entire board was on stage. When questions were asked of the board - they were deferred to the individual best positioned to answer them (or best positioned to avoid answering them - take your pick) Effectively - the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Owen DeLong wrote: >Again, I don't know the details, but this is what I surmise from >the video and from other comments I've seen on the lists. I had >no involvement with or knowledge of any such scheme, and consider such a >scheme extremely unethical and immoral even if it is

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
Since section 12.12 of the bylaws is silent on the issue of whether a proxy is required to be a natural person, then yes, in theory, a body could be a valid proxy. Still any such body would only be entitled to one vote on any matter for which said proxy was appointed, so it would still require

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jun 7, 2022, at 13:07 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear AfriNIC's Community, > > Hope this email finds you in good health! > Please my comments below, inline... > > Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a > écrit : > > >> On

Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
How did the board hold a meeting given that they cannot field a quorum after the AGMM? Owen > On Jun 7, 2022, at 00:15 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari, > > I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and Vice-Chairman > of AFRINIC respectively. > I wish

Re: [Community-Discuss] Visit AFRINIC member by NRS (Number Resource Society)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jun 3, 2022, at 06:33 , John Curran wrote: > > > >> On 20 May 2022, at 4:08 AM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >> mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: >> >>> On May 20, 2022, at 00:51 , Ish Sookun >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Owen, >>>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for a Special General Member’s Meeting

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
What board? There is no quorum to begin a board meeting at this point. Owen > On Jun 3, 2022, at 02:57 , Paul Hjul wrote: > > Hi all, > > A petition has reached critical mass to call an SGMM, hopefully the Board > won't play pokey on this one. > > Dear Members, > > For your information,

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Mirriam via Community-Discuss
Hello Sylvain, You raise very interesting perspectives on this dialogue of what "a representative" means. While following the AGMM online, I noted that Andrew from Liquid was speaking on behalf of so many other entities. My assumption is that he was the single representative of all those

[Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community, Hope this email finds you in good health! Please my comments below, inline... Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss < community-discuss@afrinic.net> a écrit : > > > On Jun 2, 2022, at 23:20 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > On 2 Jun 2022, at

[Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear PDWG, Hope this email finds you in good health! Please see my comments below, inline... Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLong a écrit : > IMHO, the term “a representative” could refer to either a natural person > representing a corporation, or a group of natural persons as a > representative

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 23:20 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > >> On 2 Jun 2022, at 20:16, Owen DeLong > > wrote: >> >> It would be legitimate to insist that only one of those members of the >> “representative team” do the speaking and voting on behalf of the entire

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 21:50 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message > , > > Andrew Alston wrote: > >> No Ronald, >> >> >> They do however contain billions in dark money, massive amounts of shadowy >> lobby groups, the occasional invasion of a building, maybe a few people >> baying

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 16:01 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message , > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> So you suggest what alternative? In the face of the various gross misdeeds >> by the >> AFRINIC board, including their tampering in the election to avoid a free and >> fair >> election... >

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Noah
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, 21:27 Owen DeLong, wrote: > IMHO, the term “a representative” could refer to either a natural person > representing a corporation, > This is acceptable as the actual interpretation of "a representative". or a group of natural persons as a representative body. > You are

Re: [Community-Discuss] Binding Arbitration

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
> In my own country (USA) on the rather special date of January 6th, 2021, > some insurrectionist elements of my own government are now known to have > been scheming to delay the final phase of the selection of our new president, > and NOT for any noble, well-founded, or good reason. Their hope

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

2022-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss
IMHO, the term “a representative” could refer to either a natural person representing a corporation, or a group of natural persons as a representative body. Given that in such ambiguities, it is generally taken to be the most liberal possible interpretation within reason, I would say the a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

2022-06-07 Thread Noah
Hi Ish It was a pleasure to finally meet you in person during the AIS 2022. I would also like to follow up on you with congratulations to both Mr.Ben and Dr.Abdalla and wish them well in their new roles as the Org continues to navigate through rough times in recent years. I would like to also

[Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

2022-06-07 Thread Ish Sookun
Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari, I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and Vice-Chairman of AFRINIC respectively. I wish you all the best and hope you will be able to navigate the organisation through the rough waters. I also thank SM for his time, guidance and leadership.