Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources (off-topic)

2017-06-30 Thread sm+afrinic
Hi Sander, At 03:29 29-06-2017, Sander Steffann wrote: Indeed, it is worrying that insider knowledge is necessary to know what information to ask for. That already shows a lack of transparency. Afrinic (morally) belongs to its members, and I understand the desire of those members to know how

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-29 Thread Andrew Alston
als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources This is worrying. A former board member using privileged insider information to dem

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-29 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > This is worrying. > > A former board member using privileged insider information to demand > accountability and transparency from current board members. Indeed, it is worrying that insider knowledge is necessary to know what information to ask for. That already shows a lack of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-29 Thread Jackson Muthili
From: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com> > Date: Thursday, 29 June 2017 at 12:06 > To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> > Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources > > > > Mr Alston, > > Your crafty

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-29 Thread Andrew Alston
to above. Andrew From: Andrew Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 12:24 To: Sunday Folayan <sfola...@gmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources Sunda

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-29 Thread Sunday Folayan
2017 12:49 *To:* Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources Dear Mr Alston, On 27/06/2017 00:31, Andrew Alston wrote: Hi Sunday,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-28 Thread Andrew Alston
plan to fully test. Thanks Andrew From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 June 2017 12:49 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recover

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-28 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Mr Alston, On 27/06/2017 00:31, Andrew Alston wrote: Hi Sunday, Ok – now we have a problem – let me quote what you said: "This */_report_/*is intended solely for the information and use of the audit committee and is not intended to be and should not be used by anyone other than these

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-27 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
violation of that clause. Are > you SURE this is the stance that the AfriNIC board wants to take? > > > > Andrew > > > > > > *From:* Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 26 June 2017 23:35 > *To:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-d

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-26 Thread Andrew Alston
ut apology – in violation of that clause. Are you SURE this is the stance that the AfriNIC board wants to take? Andrew From: Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 June 2017 23:35 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-26 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Community members, The Board has confirmed from the auditors that the Management letter is not part of the Audit Report. The cover note of the Management letter indeed has a part that reads *"This report is intended solely for the information and use of the audit** **committee and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-06-23 20:06 GMT+04:00 Andrew Alston : > So – fine – let someone ask for it let it be disclosed and let them > publish it – either way – the point is – the community has a right to see it Since it concern audit and money. It is important for membership to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-06-23 19:58 GMT+04:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > " the member base can see the document" does it mean those documents > should be published to the community? > AfriNIC get it's legitimacy from The Community Membership is just subset of The Community -- Borg le Chevalier

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Andrew Alston
NGNOULAYE [mailto:jnoul...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 June 2017 18:58 To: Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; badru.nt...@nftconsult.com Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources Dear Andre

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Janvier NGNOULAYE
s it? Andrew *From:* Janvier NGNOULAYE [mailto:jnoul...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 23 June 2017 18:06 *To:* Badru Ntege <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resource

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Badru Ntege
Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Jun 2017, at 15:13, Sunday Folayan wrote: > > The Auditor's Report is already published along with the Financial > Statements. The Board believes that the Management letter is a confidential > document. Why would the management letter be .

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-23 Thread Andrew Alston
And while on the subject of transparency, I would also ask, that the board disclosure *ALL* the audit reports – inclusive of the management letters which form part of the auditor’s report – as per section 7.6.(ii) which expressly says that the registered and resource members have the right to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-22 Thread Noah
On 22 Jun 2017 9:49 p.m., "Andrew Alston" wrote: Noah – An annual report – by law – has to contain the financials – audits cannot even BEGIN until after the close of the financial year – and audits take time – and yes – I am also not all that pleased that the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-22 Thread Andrew Alston
eneral Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources On 21 Jun 2017 7:17 p.m., "Alan Barrett" <alan.barr...@afrinic.net<mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net>> wrote: > On 20 Jun 2017, at

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-22 Thread Noah
On 21 Jun 2017 7:17 p.m., "Alan Barrett" wrote: > On 20 Jun 2017, at 21:59, Noah wrote: > > Thank you for the effort and sharing this information. > > We will appreciate as a community that this information is and must be made available online as part

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-21 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 21 Jun 2017, at 17:30, Walubengo J wrote: > > Thanx Alan for the update. > > But meanwhile forgive my ignorance. I am having trouble interpreting what it > means to reclaim a /32 v4 address. > > >>> > 211968 IPv4 Addresses (/32s) were reclaimed > >>> Here, a /32

Re: [Community-Discuss] Closed members and recovered resources

2017-06-20 Thread Noah
On 19 Jun 2017 4:07 p.m., "Alan Barrett" wrote: In response to several questions, I can give the following information about organisations whose Afrinic membership was terminated and their resources reclaimed. In 2014: 15 members were closed 18 ASNs were reclaimed