-- related to community
Community@ archives are available on Eyebrowse, and for someone not involved
in those debates they record a several pretty important discussions. I
won't mention any names, but I think it is time to prove that this list is
more than a big filibuster. Maybe in the process
I hope no one thought that I meant that only PMC members can change Wiki
content. My proposal still involves the public being able to change Wiki,
just centralizing the oversight.
Tim O'Brien
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From: O'brien, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oversight of content relating to a specific PMC should be the
repsonsibility
of said PMC.
That is one view. There may be others. I believe that there is interest in
having a consensus on policy first, and then a solution. Not too many
people have spoken up one way or another on that issue.
Oversight of content relating to a specific PMC should be the
repsonsibility
of said PMC.
That is one view. There may be others.
I understand, and I don't mean to silence discussion at all. Just trying to
offer a very concrete proposal.
It is not clear that PMCs like [Web Service]
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Costin Manolache wrote:
Are we now going to have similar oversight over the mailing lists and
archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the
lists
- are we going to have to remove it from archives ?
You wouldn't believe how much
I've moved the map here:
http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
Too many enhancements in one day...
- ben
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 05:31 PM, Ben Hyde wrote:
The map is looking better.
http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg
21 locations known plus 4 more in urls.jpg who are keeping their
Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or
spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list
archives.
Humm, are we arguing with the stop sign here? We seem close to a
settling in on that rare and wonderful thing - a
Wow, great work Ben and Santiago. I added to the FAQ to explain
geographic co-ordinates. Some people have their latitude and
longitude reversed. The obvious ones are: bdelacretaz, gstein,
jwoolley
--David
Ben Hyde wrote:
I've moved the map here:
http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/map.jpg
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The three WikiAdmins are neither official nor representatives of a proper
oversight body. The most logical group would be those who are responsible
for the site module, and I don't believe that they want it.
Well - the PMC's could each volunteer
Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
the markers on the globe.
Meanwhile I'm musing about some kind of policy
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Ben Hyde wrote:
slap a WMS (Open GIS Web Mapping Server) interface over it - so one can
doe things like zoom in; or change the background, add roads, etc.
Oh that would be neat!
nearly done :-)
Dw.
There is a WMS (OpenGIS Web Mapping Server) available at
http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/
or in older GIS packages
http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/?Request=GetCapabilities
For those who do not have ArcInfo or other GIS tools; see
By the way; with fetches like
http://demo.asemantics.com//wms/asf/?request=GetMapstyles=defaultlayers=comlocbbox=-180.0,-90.0,180.0,90.0SRS=EPSG:4326TRANSPARENT=TRUEwidth=738height=369format=image/pngversion=1.1
you can simply fetch (part of) the world, as a jpeg/gif/png, transparant
Ben Hyde wrote:
Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
the markers on the globe.
I think a html USEMAP , with the
Ben Hyde wrote:
Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm thinking that the best way to show the names, ...
Apparently the radius label doesn't work in marker files for my version
of xplanet. I'm sure I saw examples of labels floating in space over
the markers on the globe.
Try
Costin,
I see several differences between mailing list and Wiki content:
1. posting policy
If you manage your Wiki with Wiki pages in conversation mode, shouldn't you
want similar control over Wiki posting as e-mail posting?
2. representation
I do see wiki as a transcript of opinions
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html
Very nice. Is there any way we could combine this with WMS - so we can
offer zoom/panning with ease.
Dw.
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Dirk-Willem van Gulik:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The three WikiAdmins are neither official nor representatives of a
proper
oversight body. The most logical group would be those who are
responsible
for the site module, and I don't believe that they want it.
Well - the PMC's could each
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
http://cvs.apache.org/~sgala/map1.html
Very nice. Is there any way we could combine this with WMS - so we can
offer zoom/panning with ease.
I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
currently
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more.
Essentially the url demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf?request=GetCapabilities
gives you metadata - in there you find that you
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
I'm not a GIS expert at all, and I'm not sure if I understand. I'm
currently downloading the jar you pointed us to, to know more.
Essentially the url demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf?request=GetCapabilities
gives you metadata - in
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine.
Or just clever HTML/css ?
..
I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is clean enough) or send a
patch with the generate_map.pl which generates the html file to the
list,
Now that it appears that a consensus is brewing, I'm finally posting this
message in public
---
There appears to be a consensus for a Wiki per-PMC approach until some other
Wiki technology might provide some other segmentation schema for oversight.
The purpose is to
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
We should probably need a tool to merge several images into one, I imagine.
Or just clever HTML/css ?
I'm not at all an expert in writing CSS stuff, but it sure is a good idea.
..
I'll clean a little bit, and commit (if it is
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
a solution using the current Wiki code, I imagine that it would look
something like:
http://james.apache.org/wiki/
http://jakarta.apache.org/wiki/
http://avalon.apache.org/wiki/
http://xml.apache.org/wiki
My understanding ... The current Wiki, not being
under any PMC oversight, would go away.
I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC
owned ones are a functional replacement. Put some markings on the
current one. Move content, leave interlinks. Try to nudge people
Ben,
There may be some minor twists, but I didn't say it would be hard. :-) And
I am going to stay as far away from that code as possible. Tim O'brien,
though, already has some useful patches, including one to require people to
set their preferences before they can post to the Wiki.
To start,
Interesting conversation.
http://everything2.com/ is another interesting example in this space.
They keep all the content associated with an author. They have a
surprisingly complex scheme for getting a feedback loop that they hope
will create quality. One thing that fascinated me about was
I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC
owned ones are a functional replacement.
I understand your concern about data loss, and share it. See my comment
about starting the new ones as clones of the current one. And no need to
take down the old one (maybe make it
...some useful
patches, including one to require people to set their
preferences before they can post to the Wiki.
Very simple patch, doesn't address true authentication, but it adds another
hurdle into the process...
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiPatches/RequireAUserName
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I hope we don't tear down the current one for a bit, make sure the PMC
owned ones are a functional replacement.
I understand your concern about data loss, and share it. See my
comment
about starting the new ones as clones of the current one. And no need
to
take down the
Thinking about it some more. I guess my concern is less about the data
and more about the people. I'm most concerned about pulling the rug
out from under people having fun before their a place they can move
their fun to.
I'm sure we can make the migration work. :-)
We wouldn't remove any
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or
spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list
Then it -will- be noted by the committers and the PMC in a very timely
manner; no (resonable) doubt about
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