Re: Internet mapping server and geographic projects at the ASF
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: You might want to take a look at what we (my group at MIT) did the international semantic web conference: http://simile.mit.edu/conferences/iswc2005/ Sorry, this was meant to be http://simile.mit.edu/conference/iswc2005/ -- Stefano. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet mapping server and geographic projects at the ASF
Inspired by the ApacheCon and a discussion during the closing talks on maintaining a virtual map of the world using devices carried by humans, I wish to propose a project at Apache that does that and more. I would like to seek out interested people who would like to work on mapping software at the ASF. The projects that interest me are, 1. A map server that shows the location of people at the Apache conference. This isfor people who wish to remain accessible to others. This idea bothers some people. But as with any ASF project security and privacy are very important. 2. I wrote a portlet application for Jetspeed 2 which uses the MapServer project. This could be separated out as a generic portlet map server. 3. I would like to do a community driven social experiment as a way of gathering global data. 4. A generic Java map serverproject. I would like to build some better tools for authoring and publishing online maps. 5. Torsten Curdt spoke to me about his ideas of blogging by geographic location. Essentially all blogs are tagged with a location based on IP address. 6. I discussed a mapping project with Chris Schaefer. There is some live data being published by the california highway authority about traffic. It is text and html and lacks a mapping server so it is rather difficult to visualize the information. 7. Google is obviously leading the way in mapping technology. I would like to see an apache project that provides similar quality services. I am learning where my web traffic comes from using Google analytics. But they don't provide interactive maps. Please contact me if anyone is interested. Obviously the incubator is where this project will start but building the community is the first step. Happy holidays everyone! Sincerely, Philip-- Philip Donaghydonaghy.blogspot.com del.icio.us/donaghy/philipSkype: philipmarkdonaghyOffice: +33 5 56 60 88 02 Mobile: +33 6 20 83 22 62
Re: Internet mapping server and geographic projects at the ASF
Philip Mark Donaghy wrote: Inspired by the ApacheCon and a discussion during the closing talks on maintaining a virtual map of the world using devices carried by humans, I wish to propose a project at Apache that does that and more. I would like to seek out interested people who would like to work on mapping software at the ASF. The projects that interest me are, 1. A map server that shows the location of people at the Apache conference. This is for people who wish to remain accessible to others. This idea bothers some people. But as with any ASF project security and privacy are very important. 2. I wrote a portlet application for Jetspeed 2 which uses the MapServer project. This could be separated out as a generic portlet map server. 3. I would like to do a community driven social experiment as a way of gathering global data. 4. A generic Java map server project. I would like to build some better tools for authoring and publishing online maps. 5. Torsten Curdt spoke to me about his ideas of blogging by geographic location. Essentially all blogs are tagged with a location based on IP address. 6. I discussed a mapping project with Chris Schaefer. There is some live data being published by the california highway authority about traffic. It is text and html and lacks a mapping server so it is rather difficult to visualize the information. 7. Google is obviously leading the way in mapping technology. I would like to see an apache project that provides similar quality services. I am learning where my web traffic comes from using Google analytics. But they don't provide interactive maps. Please contact me if anyone is interested. Obviously the incubator is where this project will start but building the community is the first step. Happy holidays everyone! You might want to take a look at what we (my group at MIT) did the international semantic web conference: http://simile.mit.edu/conferences/iswc2005/ and note: we already have scripts that transform some of the ASF data into RDF already. As for an 'apache mapping' project, I think you *seriously* underestimate the amount of resources required to run such a service. Landsat 7 data is available as public domain, for a really nice little program that uses you can check out WW2D http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction which is a NASA WorldWind java+opengl clone (and amazingly fast! at least on my mac). There are two tile servers available to the public: one is run my Microsoft (part of terraserver, *not* virtualearth), one is run by NASA (as part of the infrastructure that powers WorldWind). Landsat 7 has a resolution of 15m per pixel, while GoogleMaps is using images from QuickBird (operated by DigitalGlobe) which has 0.6m per pixel (but it's clearly not public domain ;-) I would personally very much like apache to host the software that clones the javascript part of google maps in an open source way, but running the tile server is going to require massive amount of technical infrastructure. A much better idea is to partner with NASA and Coral http://coralcdn.org/ -- Stefano. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet mapping server and geographic projects at the ASF
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:33:24AM -0800, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: and note: we already have scripts that transform some of the ASF data into RDF already. As for an 'apache mapping' project, I think you *seriously* underestimate the amount of resources required to run such a service. +1! There are two tile servers available to the public: one is run my Microsoft (part of terraserver, *not* virtualearth), one is run by NASA (as part of the infrastructure that powers WorldWind). As it happens, I run the server than handles an awful lot (I'm not sure what proportion) of the NASA imagery and have many many terabytes of it, in many many millions of files. So if anyone wants good access to this material, it's not entirely outside the bounds of possibility, we could make it happen. I would personally very much like apache to host the software that clones the javascript part of google maps in an open source way, but running the tile server is going to require massive amount of technical infrastructure. A much better idea is to partner with NASA and Coral http://coralcdn.org/ I don't think Coral is quite up to it, just yet, but the network of mirrors might be. That's the approach that WorldWind is using already. The sizes of the datasets are somewhat onerous though, and a very large proportion of the work is non-software, which kind of calls into question whether a Software Foundation is the right place to do such a thing. -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic Key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet mapping server and geographic projects at the ASF
On 12/24/05, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:33:24AM -0800, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: and note: we already have scripts that transform some of the ASF data into RDF already. As for an 'apache mapping' project, I think you *seriously* underestimate the amount of resources required to run such a service. I realize that the putting this sort of a thing in production would be a tremendous effort. We can build the infrastructure software and let others try to deploy it, which is more of a long term goal. There are many oss projects out there that have mapping software ready to distribute under an Apache license. Most notably the MapServer project which is a simplified BSD license. And if the GPL 3 becomes compatible with the Apache there is much more out there. So this would be more of an integration project with Apache filling in the gaps and producing a data storage solution with authoring clients, mobile clients that connect to GPS and cell phone devices. I would compare this project with Geronimo, which is roughly 50 percent external projects. MapTools.org is doing a javascript api like googles. Check out ka-map demo. +1! There are two tile servers available to the public: one is run my Microsoft (part of terraserver, *not* virtualearth), one is run by NASA (as part of the infrastructure that powers WorldWind). As it happens, I run the server than handles an awful lot (I'm not sure what proportion) of the NASA imagery and have many many terabytes of it, in many many millions of files. So if anyone wants good access to this material, it's not entirely outside the bounds of possibility, we could make it happen. Super. I would personally very much like apache to host the software that clones the javascript part of google maps in an open source way, but running the tile server is going to require massive amount of technical infrastructure. A much better idea is to partner with NASA and Coral http://coralcdn.org/ I don't think Coral is quite up to it, just yet, but the network of mirrors might be. That's the approach that WorldWind is using already. The sizes of the datasets are somewhat onerous though, and a very large proportion of the work is non-software, which kind of calls into question whether a Software Foundation is the right place to do such a thing. -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic Key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Philip Donaghy donaghy.blogspot.com del.icio.us/donaghy/philip Skype: philipmarkdonaghy Office: +33 5 56 60 88 02 Mobile: +33 6 20 83 22 62 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
