Has anyone else seen the samsung F700?
Its features are pretty nice... No idea on the OS but I would definitly
take one over an IPhone... If it performs anything like it looks...
Hehe.
Its got very good specs.
--Tim
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Openmoko has 2 goals, right? One is to make a FOSS stack for mobile
phones, and two is to make 'your parents' want it. For that last bit,
you might need to have a consistent, but also clear and fluid (direct
reaction to touch actions for example, click delay is really confusing
for people).
The
Interesting device:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7317
It's dirt cheap and it looks like a nice companion to the Neo1973 to have a
keyboard for text input and a larger screen. You need a GTA02 unit so they
can communicate via WLAN, looks
On 6/7/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
If with GTK/Matchbox we cannot achieve such rich, fluid and, erm...,
fluid GUI as iPhone, maybe it's not too late to drop GTK and choose
other framework, designed for mobile devices and running quick
I agree that target #2 are my parents, but at this stage iPhone-like
fluidity should't be at the top of the priority list.
The first prerequisite is responsiveness. The device must react quickly,
say:
- 15s device startup
- 1s startup of commonly used application (dialer,
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 11:29 +0200, Fabien wrote:
On 6/7/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
If with GTK/Matchbox we cannot achieve such rich, fluid and,
erm...,
fluid GUI as iPhone, maybe it's not too late to drop
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 00:02 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:26 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote:
But what does that link offer? So I posted my name on the list
months
ago - does that guarantee that I'll get one of the first batch
released? Nope! But if it makes you
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 13:20 +0300, Aloril wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 00:02 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:26 -0400, Duncan Hudson wrote:
But what does that link offer? So I posted my name on the list
months
ago - does that guarantee that I'll get one of
I would say, considering the fact that the apps ecosystem hasn't
flourished yet, is it really too late to switch? In the rest of this
mail, please assume it is not.
How detached is the underlying processes/functions and GUI from each
other? How difficult will it be to just pull a different GUI
On to, 2007-06-07 at 01:23 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
I'm 100% sure nobody will cry after pure-X11 applications we loose
this way. Almost every GTK application would require rewriting/porting
to fit OpenMoko capabilities, so it's not great loss too. Not to
I think you should... fork.
One group for GTK and other for something else.
:)
2007/6/7, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would say, considering the fact that the apps ecosystem hasn't
flourished yet, is it really too late to switch? In the rest of this
mail, please assume it is not.
How
Ok so we have passed the original due date for the phase 1. We have passed
the original due date for the phase 1+. And now even more confusing we have
a phase 2? without a due date at all. The only due date we have is in Sept
which will be phase something... So I was curious if there is ANY
You *could* do what many existing linux apps do... write the functional
part of the app as a console program, and then use many simple GUIs as
options to interface with it. Think about cdrecord and K3b as an example.
For the handful of us out there that intend to use the Neo as a remote
Sven Neuhaus wrote:
Interesting device:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7317
It's dirt cheap and it looks like a nice companion to the Neo1973 to have a
keyboard for text input and a larger screen. You need a GTA02 unit so they
can
If I remember correctly, the F700 is using a Flash lite interface. Even though
it does not have WiFi, it does have 7.2M HSDPA :) I am pretty sure it does
have bluetooth though. Look here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_f700-1849.php
or here:
A bluetooth frogpad will likely be my means of text input (when I need
to do a bunch), but the Eee looks interesting for other uses.
~Bradley
Sven Neuhaus wrote:
Interesting device:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9292516116.html
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7317
It's dirt
On Thursday 07 June 2007, Steven ** wrote:
You should be aware of them. Check the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications
-Steven
Indeed, the only problem is that progress is hard to see, most of this was
already there when openmoko.org was brought up.
With a release date this year
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 08:19 -0700, David Schlesinger wrote:
If someone really wanted to keep things lightweight, you could even
do a
curses based interface as an option. 31337 HaXoRs and their console
based phones.
Keen. I bet you could sell _dozens_ of those.
My dad will buy one
nice. very nice.
i really hope this is close to the Moko v2 hardware. it's what i'm waiting
for
Mark
On 6/7/07, Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I remember correctly, the F700 is using a Flash lite interface. Even
though it does not have WiFi, it does have 7.2M HSDPA :) I am
Hmm... I thought it listed wifi and bluetooth on samsungs website...
--Tim
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 8:57, Mark McClellan wrote:
nice. very nice.
i really hope this is close to the Moko v2 hardware. it's what i'm
waiting for
Mark
On 6/7/07, Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I
to, 2007-06-07 kello 09:05 -0700, John Seghers kirjoitti:
I've been writing games since 1981, on Atari 5200, 8-bit NES, SFX, Genesis,
Windows, and too many cell phones to keep track of. Please, please, please
give us direct access to the frame buffer and a low level API to the Blitter
in the
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 01:23 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
... GameBoy provided nice full-screen animations
in 1989, eighteen years ago.
This is nothing like the GameBoy, or the C64, or the Amiga. The GB was a
single-tasking system that would always only be doing one thing at a
time.
On 6/7/07, Hans van der Merwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Other issues worry me - Im in South Africa - whats the PP going to be?
Is the price tag really going to be $350? ($50 here or there may break
my enthusiasm)
I always thought South Africans could drop 3000 rand on a phone and not even
I've been lurking, but this is something that I do have a bit of
experience
with--and definitely some opinions.
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
framework, designed for mobile devices and running quick
framebuffer operations? GameBoy provided nice full-screen
You and *I* feel that way... But the general public will be taking stock
of the appearance and ease of use etc...
Besides.. I mentioned it so that we can take a look at the view some
general person my have of a new device and see how we can improve upon
any weaknesses. There will be no
to, 2007-06-07 kello 12:19 -0600, Knight Walker kirjoitti:
And you'd be 100% wrong in at least a few occasions. X11 applications
aren't just for running desktop apps on the Moko. They can also be for
running Moko apps on the desktop.
Well put there, hadn't even considered that. I'm not quite
Dear community,
I am not sure if this is a widely known thing or not, but I just found out
about it and had some questions about this working on the neo. T-mobile has
hotspots all around my area, but have been experimenting with a new service
called T-mobile HotSpot @Home. It uses a UMA
OK resending this since i accidentally sent it directly to Mr John Seghers
Regards,
Daniel
- Original Message -
From: Silva, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John Seghers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: UI ideas/questions or can we animate things as
Daniel sent his response directly instead of to the list by accident. I
confirmed that with him so I'm leaving his entire reply and adding my points
at the end...
-Original Message-
From: Silva, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:40 AM
To: John Seghers
What I see is a situation very similar to the WinG (Windows Game)
libraries
in the Windows 95 timeframe. These allowed a Windows app to take over the
entire screen and bypass GDI--even to the point of changing screen res and
refresh rates. Then, when you Alt-Tab'd away, or some other reason
Related tutorial :
http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK_on_DirectFB_for_Embedded_Systems
The choice should be driven by benchmarks results. EFLs are on the row too...
Cheers
Florent
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mathew davis wrote:
Dear community,
I am not sure if this is a widely known thing or not, but I just found
out about it and had some questions about this working on the neo.
T-mobile has hotspots all around my area, but have been experimenting
with a new service called T-mobile HotSpot
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