Re: Font type and size was (QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03)

2008-06-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
This inspires me to do a different calculation based on biological and physical facts: According to (German) Wikipedia http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auflösungsvermögen the human eye can separate two distinct points if they are displaced in an angle of 2' (2 minutes, i.e. 0.0333 degrees). For

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-17 Thread Msquared
First, my preference. Then some thought-provoking discussion (I know it's late - I've been finishing off a project of my own!) On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to > DIY an adapter for any

Re: GSoC projects

2008-06-17 Thread Maciej Ligenza
Hi, On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:19, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reading through the GSoC updates, i saw that (atl least) two used > "Markov Model ". > I have no idea what that is, or how it's used, i just > wanted to ask if it's the same functionality? Yes, it is. > Because ifyes,

GSM Layer 3 Tracing

2008-06-17 Thread Thomas Jund
Usually there are vendor specific AT commands for the GSM chipsets to turn the Layer 3 tracing on. The trace itself is then in an proprietary format, which then needs then to be decoded. There was an interesting post from Rob with an example of monitoring the Network Quality (quite a while ago)

openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
Hello, I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the laptop ? An example pci express card is the MC8775v : http://www.sierrawireless.com/resources/product/MC8775V%20Datasheet%20rev%201.0.pdf Is anyo

Re: GSoC projects

2008-06-17 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:19 AM, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there. > Reading through the GSoC updates, i saw that (atl least) two used > "Markov Model ". I have no idea what that is, or how it's used, It is amazing what you can find on the Internet with a little effort:

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread ramsesoriginal
Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title there was also the word "graffiti", and somone in the list said that he's a graffiti "official", and that it would be better to not use it as a name to avoid ev

Re: Why not use forum? -> Use OESF.org forum

2008-06-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>> Hi! >> I was wondering - why are we not using forum for community? >> It's much better to view, you can subscribe and unsubscribe to the >> topics you want and etc. I have been notet that a new (Sub-)Forum has been created: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=161 OESF is one o

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 16. Juni 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: > On Sunday 15 June 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: > > > A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always > > > want some hardware twist. > > > > They don't exactly know our hw, I guess (e.g it's n

handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread arne anka
> Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list > posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title > there was also the word "graffiti", and somone in the list said that > he's a graffiti "official", and that it would be better to not use it > as a name t

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
Once I have OpenMoko, I surely try this: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ ohin On 6/17/08, ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list > posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title > there was also the

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I'm curious about If when released, if a volunteer makes a detailed photoguide of where/what/for what/how about the hardware. Can count with openmoko help? It's recommended to no distribute those kinds of docs? or better do it under openmoko supervision? Only to talk about it, meanwhile the f

Re: Why not use forum? -> Use OESF.org forum

2008-06-17 Thread David Samblas Martinez
I then I got another source of knowlege/comunication to add to the repository. Bookmarked! --- El mar, 17/6/08, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > De: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: Re: Why not use forum? -> Use OESF.org forum > Para: "List for Openmo

"tossing" contacts

2008-06-17 Thread Crane, Matthew
Anybody following the Macross Frontier anime series (personal comm devices seem to be a developed sub-theme) may have noticed recently the "tossing" of contact information from one cell phone to another. Ep 8 I think.. Would be a cool application of the gesture project. The receiver would hav

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote: > As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmo

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread jluis
>> As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the >> openmoko.. > > i don't see anything. neither in qemu nor in the wiki. > any hints/links are highly appreciated. I don't know if it is in the images but it is called matchbox-stroke and it is one opkg away. I have not tested

still GPS questions

2008-06-17 Thread Michael Born
Hello OpenMoko community. I read a lot of the GPS discussion on this mailing list, in the OpenMoko wiki and on wikipedia. Still there are things I don't get :-( As I'm interested in the freerunner everything here refers to the GTA02. There are two extensions to GPS - AGPS and DGPS. On page one o

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Msquared
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:13:55PM +0200, arne anka wrote: > regarding the question, who owns graffiti 1, see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) Looks like Xerox owns the patent. If it's still 17 years for a patent, that patent will still be valid for 5 or so years. I wonder i

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-17 Thread Msquared
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:09:03AM +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: > > What are the engineering reasons for this? > > The reason is that the user normally wants to run a lot of root > applications such as rdate, power off, opkg, etc. Of course this should > be solved, but it should not be

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Jacob Peterson
A quick search of my list archive found this: "On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 2:38 AM, David Lefty Schlesinger < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Graffiti (as it pertains to handwriting systems) is a registered trademark of ACCESS Systems Americas, not a generic term; you want to find some alternate terminology

Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Matt Flax wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice > modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the > laptop ? > > An example pci express card is the MC8775v : > http://www.sierrawireless.com/resour

Re: "tossing" contacts

2008-06-17 Thread arne anka
> Sender does frisbee type toss motion, catcher preforms similar motion in > other plane. like the wii rermote? wasn't there something about shooting the tv ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/m

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread arne anka
> Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :) something in this way is definitely needed if the om uses password related security -- always hacking in a password with the onscreen keyboard will probably be rather slow and prone to exposure. ___

Re: handwriting recognition?

2008-06-17 Thread Lorn Potter
arne anka wrote: > i looked around a bit but i cannot find informations about the state of > handwriting recognition or whether it exists at all. > i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and > would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. Q

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Mo 16. Juni 2008 schrieb Al Johnson: > > On Sunday 15 June 2008, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > > Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: > > > > A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always > > > > want some hardware twist.

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-17 Thread Lally Singh
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone. Over the weekend I took perhaps 50 or so screenshots of > the ASU on a Freerunner. A lot of them are repetitive, simply showing > all of the options on a given application. But others are > "interesting" and show

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Martin Larsson wrote: > Sure, that's what he is saying. But it isn't possible to make DRM with > free software. > That's what he's not understanding. > > No, there is something more basic he is not understanding. This is it: If a player decides not play along, that player is a disruptive force.

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-17 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to DIY an > adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm > headSET standards or adapters?) I vote for the 3.5. Supporti

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-17 Thread Søren Kristiansen
This might help you a bit. It's a demonstration of the ASU user interface. It was posted a long time ago so you shouldn't expect it to be up-to-date in any way :-) http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/freerunner1.4.swf 2008/6/17 Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:07 PM,

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-17 Thread Michael Shiloh
We've had for some time a limited number of what we call "Early Access" units. These are basically spares from our pre-production runs, which we've made available to those who urgently need Freerunners for their special projects. A few university projects fell into this category, and thus were

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-17 Thread Robert Taylor
Kevin Dean wrote: > Hi everyone. Over the weekend I took perhaps 50 or so screenshots of > the ASU on a Freerunner. A lot of them are repetitive, simply showing > all of the options on a given application. But others are > "interesting" and show some new or under-reviewed applications. > > I've tak

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Hodson
I also vote for the 4 conductor 3.5mm jack. I am not 100% sure the pinout of my Blackberry Curve, but I know that I can plug in my sony mdr-ex71 headphones and get perfect sound (added to this an 8gig microsd means I dont have to take my largish iriver out and about unless I want radio or recordin

Re: My blog: Photo Tour Of The ASU

2008-06-17 Thread Kevin Dean
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm glad Raster joined up w/Moko for this. What's that slider view > for (the one with three panels)? The equations, zoomed text, giant > icon, etc? It's an application launcher. Each application is in a category, and eac

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-17 Thread Joachim Steiger
David Samblas Martinez wrote: > I'm curious about If when released, if a volunteer makes a detailed > photoguide of where/what/for what/how about the hardware. Can count with > openmoko help? that depends on which part of the hw. most of the generic soc is kinda 'public documented' anyways. th

quemu w/ gat02

2008-06-17 Thread arne anka
using openmoko/download.sh i always get the gta01 files. now i changed "gta01" in openmoko/env to gta02 or gta02fake and the gta02 files are downloaded -- but flash.sh fails horribly while printing s3c_nand_read: Bad register 0x20 infinitely. google shows two irc-logs with a question regarding

Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
I see, What I am really trying to do is to have as close to an all in one convergence as possible. So take a small EEEPC like laptop, put the voice modem into it and there you have it ... phone, music player, video player, upgradeable memory, a mini computer with full QWERTY keys and so on ... Is

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-06-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/17 Mike Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I also vote for the 4 conductor 3.5mm jack. > I vote for the same. There is already a standard headphone jack, and has been for over 30 years. Use it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ

Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Steven Kurylo
> What I am really trying to do is to have as close to an all in one > convergence as possible. > So take a small EEEPC like laptop, put the voice modem into it and there you > have it ... phone, music player, video player, upgradeable memory, a mini > computer with full QWERTY keys and so on ...

Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ti, 2008-06-17 kello 18:53 +0100, Al Johnson kirjoitti: > On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Matt Flax wrote: > > I would like to know whether it is possible to plug a pci express voice > > modem into a laptop and then use openmoko to make mobile calls from the > > laptop ? > > It ought to be possible, thoug

Re: openmoko and pci express voice modems

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Flax
I have begun enquiries with one of the manufacturers they mention they already have Linux drivers, but didn't seem to know what I/O routines they already provide I assume that if it needs hacking, then it would simply need control and voice hacking ... control hacks to start stop and do

Re: still GPS questions

2008-06-17 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Michael- > 2. Is this AssistNOW(TM) supported by the GTA02 software? Are there > better/cheaper ways of getting up to date "almanac" and "ephemeris" into the > freerunner? > For GTA02 default shipment image, there is no A-GPS/GPS supported software inside. You could find the u-blox A-GPS o

Re: quemu w/ gat02

2008-06-17 Thread Evgeny Ginzburg
arne anka wrote: > using openmoko/download.sh i always get the gta01 files. now i changed > "gta01" in openmoko/env to gta02 or gta02fake and the gta02 files are > downloaded -- but flash.sh fails horribly while printing > s3c_nand_read: Bad register 0x20 > infinitely. > google shows two irc-lo