Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-04 Thread Jeremy McNaughton
Layoffs are always sad, and never an easy decision to make. To those who are leaving the company, thanks for the great work. I wish the best for your future endeavours and hope that you are able to remain in the community in some way. I know I haven't really contributed much to the project.

Re: sending SMS from paroli's People list (OM2009T4)

2009-06-04 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
i just stumbled across the way to send an SMS to a particular contact.  in the people screen, slide the contact name to the right, a Msg button appears, which you can press to start composing an SMS. i'm sure i'm not the first person to find this, but i couldn't find any references on the

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: NAND support is only there because of the GTA01/GTA02 legacy and it has limitations compared to SD. While technically possible to bring NAND support in Qi on par with SD, I think it would just make things more

Re: sending SMS from paroli's People list (OM2009T4)

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Evgeniy Karyakin anthropophag...@gmail.com wrote: i just stumbled across the way to send an SMS to a particular contact.  in the people screen, slide the contact name to the right, a Msg button appears, which you can press to start composing an SMS. i'm sure

Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Fertser
neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Maybe someone knows the answer how to use different layouts on the mbk. OE has several patches that allow to use a virtual key to switch layouts on the fly without reloading the keyboard. There's a wishlist report here [1] which includes a link to

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:55:58AM +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! I use the distribution on NAND as an SD card reader. I load the OS, connect to my laptop, and I write the new distro to the uSD card. It is impossible to do it on the same SD card, from where the OS is running. You cant

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. I dont have uSD card reader on my laptop. And I bought it 3 months ago. My previous laptop had SD card reader, but never worked with linux. (I would

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread arne anka
more complicated and lure people into using NAND whereas SD is the future. In the GTA03 design, we would not have used NAND for anything but storing Qi and read-only factory data. Likewise, for gta02-core, I wouldn't consider using u-boot. my experience is, that nand is far more reliable

Re: illume keyboard force on/off

2009-06-04 Thread Richard Kralovic
Hello, it doesn't remember i have made it show once i switch windows and this gets really annoying. is there a way for it to remember it's state for a window? I do not know how hard is it to add this feature into illume, but maybe a useful workaround is to modify the illume theme to have the

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 4 de June de 2009 09:56:36 Martin Jansa va escriure: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. but I always feel bad when I have to remove back-cover. How long can that plastic fixtures hold back-cover tight and reliably? I have done it at least 600

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/4 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com: El Thursday, 4 de June de 2009 09:56:36 Martin Jansa va escriure: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. but I always feel bad when I have to remove back-cover. How long can that plastic fixtures hold back-cover

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-04 Thread PaulTT
WOW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: NEW e-tasks (Alpha) release 0.21

2009-06-04 Thread c_c
Hi, Here's the latest release. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3024005/e-tasks_0.21_arm.ipk e-tasks_0.21_arm.ipk Changes * Task text scrolls in the entry * Task text is selected automatically on adding new task -- View this message in context:

Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:45:12 pm Paul Fertser wrote: Not sure if all the delays and actions are needed, it's anyway much faster than rebooting. Thanks for that Paul, but for now I've gone back to QtMoko now that some of the more frustrating bugs have apparently been fixed. Will keep an eye on

Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard

2009-06-04 Thread neove...@freerunner
Ah, great. Thanks for that hint. http://git.openembedded.net/ does not exist apparently. Where can I get the patches from instead? Paul Fertser wrote: neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Maybe someone knows the answer how to use different layouts on the mbk. OE has several

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I use the distribution on NAND as an SD card reader. Hmm, I think we have to distinguish between things you can do and things that actually make sense here ;-) Once you've started to fill the niches, it's always unpleasant to change. That's one reason why it's difficult to

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
arne anka wrote: - what reasons make you say, sd is the future? The main reasons are: - much easier handling. SD is like a disk, so you can use all the standard tools and get standard behaviour. NAND needs a lot of exceptional treatment to properly address wear and factory-bad blocks.

Re: illume keyboard force on/off

2009-06-04 Thread Petr Vanek
it doesn't remember i have made it show once i switch windows and this gets really annoying. is there a way for it to remember it's state for a window? I do not know how hard is it to add this feature into illume, but maybe a useful workaround is to modify the illume theme to have the keyboard

Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Hi all, I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data from CH to OBM and upload them to OBM server? I know that OBM log more

Re: Debuzzing

2009-06-04 Thread Thomas B
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: Dear community, it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone. Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked behind the scenes and are close

Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi there list ! I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR unstable release or OM2009. I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on boot with a koolu

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Jan Vlug
Hi Yann, I had similar problems after that I had Android Beta 6 installed. I do not exactly know how I solved the problem. But one of the things was that I removed all partitions from the sd card. After that I created a single new partition and formatted it with ext3. Paul Fertser gave me some

Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Fertser
neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Ah, great. Thanks for that hint. http://git.openembedded.net/ does not exist apparently. Where can I get the patches from instead? Sorry, probably i mistyped it when i entered the bugreport, it's there: http://cgit.openembedded.org/ -- Be free,

Re: illume keyboard force on/off

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Fertser
Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz writes: it doesn't remember i have made it show once i switch windows and this gets really annoying. is there a way for it to remember it's state for a window? I do not know how hard is it to add this feature into illume, but maybe a useful workaround is to modify

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi Jan, the thing is that images were located on sd card but then after booting on it, Android was installed on NAND. So, the fact that I removed Sd card or not doesn't change anything (I tried and no changes) For me, SHR is installed on NAND, so it's located on internal flash and that's it

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi Jan, the thing is that images were located on sd card but then after booting on it, Android was installed on NAND. So, the fact that I removed Sd card or not doesn't change anything (I tried and no changes) For me, SHR is installed on NAND, so it's located on internal flash and that's it

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Hi, about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap format. I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the result that it will only happen in the way that openbmap can use the cellhunter data. I will not combine these two databases. There are some

Re: illume keyboard force on/off

2009-06-04 Thread Richard Kralovic
thank you for the workaround. the trouble is that showing the keyboard always requires time to redraw the window than needs to be resized if it stayed as is the response would be faster. i am surprised nobody This is one of the benefits of using transparent keyboard :-). Although the

Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard

2009-06-04 Thread neove...@freerunner
ok thanks, found it: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/matchbox-keyboard/files Paul Fertser wrote: neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Ah, great. Thanks for that hint. http://git.openembedded.net/ does not exist apparently. Where can I get the

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
At some stage I heard that Openbmap would save more information compared to opencellid. I don't know where's the problem but I really can't see why there has to be three databases for the same stuff - I'd guess it's just because of selfish people not willing to share and let others contribute or

Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-04 Thread a dehqan
In The Name of God I'll be so thankfull if you guide ; 1-Is openmoko firmware protected and should be hacked like motorola phones to read mpkg files ? 2-Does android work completely on neo 1973 ?how about qtopia ? 3-where can neo 1973 be found to buy while it has been sold out ?in europe or in

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-04 Thread The Digital Pioneer
1. OM phones and their software are completely open source, so they can be hacked but not like motorolas. You can edit the source codes and complie as you see fit. 2. Android doesn't work completely; Qt Extended Improved as I believe it's called now works about as well as anything else AFAIK. I

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Jeremy for your kind words. I've copied pat meier Johnson our PR person on the thread. Like you we believe there is a great positive story here. In addition, I've copied some of the key people in the Openmoko community to get their reaction to your ideas Jeremy McNaughton wrote:

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Jan Vlug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Yann, Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND? Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior... BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well? Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Fertser
Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl writes: Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND? Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior... BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well? Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
i have the exact same problem first i had the strange behaviour of having a /dev/mtdblock6 AND a /dev/mtdblock7 when booted from SD i reflashed qi and the shr-filesystem to NAND, and now i only have /dev/mtdblock6 and no /dev/mtdblock7 any more (which is good), but when i try to boot from NAND i

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yann SLADEK
Hi Paul and Jan, I successfully flashed Qi on NAND but it doesn't changed anything at all When I try to boot directly (pressing power button), I got the koolu spashscreen directly and then got stucked When I try to boot from NOR menu (pressing AUX and power button), then choose 'Boot', I got

request for audiotagging

2009-06-04 Thread ivvmm
Hello list, are there any OpenStreetMappers here? How to you map. I find it nearly impossible. The map in our region is rather pour and needs expanding. It is being done only by two persons, although we have drawn all the streets and many buildings in native town. We have named streets, because

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yann SLADEK
Ok my fault the problem come from me and nothing is related to Android I didn't notice that when flashing fs and kernel together, kernel flashing wasn't done cause a USB reset (according to neotool) When I flashed kernel only, everything is working great Sorry for disturbance Jan Vlug

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
but i'm using qi, and i have the kernel in the /boot directory on NAND, that should work without flashing the kernel... anyway, I will also try this On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Yann SLADEK yann.sla...@free.fr wrote: Ok my fault the problem come from me and nothing is related to Android I

Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread arne anka
but i'm using qi, and i have the kernel in the /boot directory on NAND, that should work without flashing the kernel... sorry, to disappoint you -- but we just had that discussion: qi does not understand jffs2 and nand is jffs2 formatted. so, when using nand you have to flash it (but you

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

m SD partitition

2009-06-04 Thread Test
I tried do partition on SD, I got partition 1 is ok but i got No free sectors available, why ? how do i do partition 2?     Partition number (1-4): 1 Partition 1 is already defined, delete it before re-adding Command (m for help): n Command action    e   extended    p   primary partition (1-4) p

Re: m SD partitition

2009-06-04 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag, 4. Juni 2009 23:09:49 schrieb Test: I tried do partition on SD, I got partition 1 is ok but i got No free sectors available, why ? how do i do partition 2? Partition number (1-4): 1 Partition 1 is already defined, delete it before re-adding Command (m for help): n Command

Re: m SD partitition

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
type in p to print the info about your sd card; but i'm sure the problem is that your first partition takes up the whole SD-card so you will need to make it smaller On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Test chlework2...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried do partition on SD, I got partition 1 is ok but i got

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:00:29PM +0200, tammaro pamdirac palombo wrote: I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. While you don't get it, this alsa state file improves things a

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread Warren Baird
I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true statefile'... If you still get buzz, then try dropping 'control.5' (Mono Playback Volume) - to around 85 or 90. That might

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-04 Thread tammaro pamdirac palombo
thanks, I'll try it tomorrow On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 20:28, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: At some stage I heard that Openbmap would save more information compared to opencellid. I don't know where's the problem but I really can't see why there has to be three databases for the same stuff - I'd guess it's just because of

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Pablo Miño
I am looking for the SOP for this fix in the openmoko wiki and I cannot find it. As I am an international user of openmoko if I send it to the US I will have to pay taxes, and taxes in my country are quite high for electronics. Could anyone send me the SOP link? I would like to have it fixed

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Brian. Brian Fuller wrote: Hello Openmoko Community! As users of the Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6, you may have experienced an audio buzz while making a phone call. Openmoko has identified the issue and upgraded the hardware to fix this issue. The GTA02

Today's Om2009 snapshot (better than test4 so far)

2009-06-04 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi, Congratulations guys, Om2009 keeps getting better! I won't give spoilers, just a thumbs up! Sometimes suspend still gets borked after receiving a missed call, but as I was able to place a call just after that, I'm not yet sure the problem has changed. One bigger problem, though, is that the

Re: Today's Om2009 snapshot (better than test4 so far)

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Congratulations guys, Om2009 keeps getting better! I won't give spoilers, just a thumbs up! Just finished some ui fix a moment ago, so try again;) Sometimes suspend still gets borked after receiving a missed call,

Re: Popping up virtual keyboards via PyGTK, double click rate

2009-06-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
if this means that the keyboard will finally auto-show when a text field is active, i am really excited. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Ford da...@blue-labs.org wrote: I've been told that telling the widget to grab the focus should pop up the virtual keyboard, but it has yet to happen.

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
im a regular to the OSM, but have never tried audiotagging. my guess is that this could be done with dictator running in the background behind tango or omgps. though im not sure if background recording works. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:14 PM, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, are

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-04 Thread Al Johnson
A few clarifications inline below: On Thursday 04 June 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote: 1. OM phones and their software are completely open source, so they can be hacked but not like motorolas. You can edit the source codes and complie as you see fit. The hardware schematics and component

Re: Popping up virtual keyboards via PyGTK, double click rate

2009-06-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 June 2009, David Ford wrote: I've been told that telling the widget to grab the focus should pop up the virtual keyboard, but it has yet to happen. Not quite - it responds to various X atoms being set. This post has some more info, including c code. You may need to check the

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-04 Thread Al Johnson
iirc the author of dictator added features specifically to make it usable for audio tagging while recording tracklogs with tangogps, though it should work with omgps too. I've not tried it though - too much wind noise when I'm cycling. I usually stop and take notes on dead tree from time to

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Pablo Miño wrote: I am looking for the SOP for this fix in the openmoko wiki and I cannot find it. As I am an international user of openmoko if I send it to the US I will have to pay taxes, and taxes in my country are quite high for electronics. Could anyone send me

RE: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Thank you for doing this! I have a full body invisible shield on my freerunner, is this okay to send in? It can still be opened per usual, but I just wanted to make sure it was okay first. Is there any way we could perhaps pay extra and get the GPS capacitor, Bass Fix, and Recamping fix as

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-04 Thread Max
Great to hear that... Btw, where do you actually situated?... at least information about continent you're in would greatly help in estimating shipment costs :) cheers, Max. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: m SD partitition

2009-06-04 Thread Alexander Shulgin
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Testchlework2...@yahoo.com wrote: I tried do partition on SD, I got partition 1 is ok but i got No free sectors available, why ? how do i do partition 2? Partition number (1-4): 1 Partition 1 is already defined, delete it before re-adding Command (m for

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
My personal preference goes out to openBmap, because I think they combine quality and quantity; quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA) quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid I could be mistaken but from what i heard from onen (the creator of

Re: Today's Om2009 snapshot (better than test4 so far)

2009-06-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: Hi, Congratulations guys, Om2009 keeps getting better! I won't give spoilers, just a thumbs up! Yes, some of the new features are c00l. Things just start to click :) Sometimes suspend still gets borked after