Hi Bob,
Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even
better - real actions that would help?
At present the community is beholden to a particular company which
produces
Am 24.08.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
On the Road --- hns
Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham r...@settrans.net:
On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Why are you still a member of this community
I want freedom. I want a phone that runs 100% free software, including
any firmware for component devices and also including firmware running
on the baseband processor. I want the
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 09:56:46 +0200
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
On the Road --- hns
Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham r...@settrans.net:
On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:21 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham:
We have schematics in a .pdf file but nothing else.
Yes. And the PDF is the source.
I don't believe this is the case. I believe the PDF was compiled from
designs that came from
On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Why are you still a member of this community
I want freedom. I want a phone that runs 100% free software, including
any firmware for component devices and also including
On Friday, August 23, 2013 06:50:11 PM Lukas Märdian wrote:
Again, I'd like to out point to some website designs I did quite some
time ago, maybe for others to evaluate and improve upon:
GTA04 project page:
http://slyon.de/gta04/index.old.php
OpenPhoenux preorder/crowd-funding page:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:36:42 +0200
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
If 200 people agree to put 599 EUR on the table we could start
production tomorrow (well, we need 6-8 weeks to get the components)
and 200 GTA04 boards would be available in November.
We could also order
On Friday, August 23, 2013 10:21:33 PM arne anka wrote:
the missing money is just the indicator for this project's failure to
create sufficient public interest or even awareness.
while the GTA01/2 was a nice idea, it was already slightly outdated when
it appeared -- and since then nothing has
Am 24.08.2013 um 12:57 schrieb kardan:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:36:42 +0200
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
If 200 people agree to put 599 EUR on the table we could start
production tomorrow (well, we need 6-8 weeks to get the components)
and 200 GTA04 boards would be
Excuse me very much, I don't mean to offend anyone, I actually care
about project a lot.
I really appreciate the project and I would like to have a gta04 based device,
probably tablet. It's just too expensive for me now.
Recently I became a lucky owner of a freerunner, got one used, and
need
On Sat 24 August 2013 14:22:55 Radek Polak wrote:
1/ poor power management
[...]
something. But i always worked in userspace. I barely understand kernel and
i have no EE skills and equipment to contribute. I can contribute only as
a tester. I thought that i will deliver working userspace and
Hi Radek,
Am 24.08.2013 um 14:22 schrieb Radek Polak:
On Friday, August 23, 2013 10:21:33 PM arne anka wrote:
the missing money is just the indicator for this project's failure to
create sufficient public interest or even awareness.
while the GTA01/2 was a nice idea, it was already
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:36 schrieb joerg Reisenweber:
On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Why are you still a member of this community
I want freedom. I want a phone that runs 100% free software, including
any
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 16:12 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
But start on the green field (yes, as prepared by Openmoko) as we
have done.
Why? Why do you want people to start on the green field rather than
building on your work?
--
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net
for (;;) { ++pancakes; }
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote:
Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about
convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people
take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why would you want to
make it more difficult?
I
Hello, community!
I'd like to start discussion about how we communicate our presence to
the external world. Recent threads showed that there's some need to
think about it.
I know this community consists rather of smart, technical geeks who
don't want to lower themselves into stinky marketing
Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
I've also created quick draft by myself: http://dosowisko.net/gta04/
Hi Sebastian,
just three words: This looks awesome!
I think About and Features should be linked to some overview
information/specs in the same page design, whereas
On Sat 24 August 2013 16:12:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
A word to Nikolaus: I'm a bit sad that you ignore the fact that openmoko
did share gerbers, PADS project files, BOM, whatever, on request. We
shared everything, sometimes under a NDA when we had to do that way.
Sorry, but I
Hi Sebastian,
Just a quick reply as I must dash.
Your draft design looks great, I really like it.
I'm not sure about the text about ethics of manufacturing - while it
is assembled in Germany, the components are sourced from factories
with potentially similar working conditions to other
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a
barrier to freedom. It can be abused.
I don't understand that. The reason of open source is that you can
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote:
Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about
convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people
take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why would
On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work
into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's
a
barrier to freedom. It can be abused.
I only see
On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping
others create derivatives of the GTA04.
I think i have done this several times (spread over several mails) in
the
past hours.
Am 24.08.2013 um 20:42 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham:
There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a
format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a
barrier to
Am 24.08.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Bob Ham:
On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham:
I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping
others create derivatives of the GTA04.
I think i have done this several times
Am 24.08.2013 um 18:11 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
I've also created quick draft by myself: http://dosowisko.net/gta04/
Wow, that looks good! Almost like a kickstarter project page :)
BR,
Nikolaus
On 2013-08-24 18:53, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Only your mother is giving you convenience for free...
I find GNU to be overflowing with convenience.
--
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net
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On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 18:11 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
I've also created quick draft by myself: http://dosowisko.net/gta04/
Wow, that looks good! Almost like a
For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files
that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE).
http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/
The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04
board license (CC-BY-NC-SA).
So I'm wondering about
Am 24.08.2013 um 22:08 schrieb Paul Wise:
For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files
that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE).
http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/
The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:22:55 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
And the reenumerating modem - i really dont understand why we havent tried
newer firmware. For me missed calls is quite serious problem.
I'm starting to think the the re-enumeration could be an omap-usb problem.
I
Am 24.08.2013 23:04, schrieb NeilBrown:
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:22:55 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
And the reenumerating modem - i really dont understand why we havent
tried newer firmware. For me missed calls is quite serious problem.
I'm starting to think the the re-enumeration could
Am 24.08.2013 21:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 um 18:11 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:
I've also created quick draft by myself:
Great job for your website !
I think, it could be good too to have a different page on GD shop for
the wish lists : https://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04
The actual page has a lot of informations which can be found in the
GTA04 documentation already pointed by the new website proposal.
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:24:29 +0200 Lukas Märdian l...@slyon.de wrote:
Am 24.08.2013 23:04, schrieb NeilBrown:
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:22:55 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
And the reenumerating modem - i really dont understand why we havent
tried newer firmware. For me missed calls is
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