IIci
OK, this may be off topic but other than the PCI list its the only Mac list I am on that got any traffic Why would my IIci, when I fire it up show the Happy Mac then go to the dickette with the ? on it? Steve -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: IIci
Sounds a bit like your boot directory got crazed. If you can get ahold of Diskwarrior, it will fix the drive. I once had this occur on my old Centris 650. Used an older version of AOL Instant Messenger that crashed and took out the boot directory on the hard drive. Wound up nuking and repaving the drive. Happened a second time. That time, I dropped the drive into an old IIci that I had lying around. That machine booted up. Put the drive back into the 650, and it worked just fine thereafter. -J OK, this may be off topic but other than the PCI list its the only Mac list I am on that got any traffic Why would my IIci, when I fire it up show the Happy Mac then go to the dickette with the ? on it? Steve ++ John Laughlin Photography; Nature Photography ++ + Duvall, WA 98019-0778|'82 242Ti B23FT M46 500K km - 311K mi + + MSN Messenger:Kilted_John |'83 245Ti B21FT M46 459K km - 285K mi + + ICQ# 5584031 AIM: IIci MAN |'87 744Ti B23FT AW71 208K mi - 334K km+ + http://home.blarg.net/~volvo242gt/index.html -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Best Software/Hardware (Browser/Mail/Faxing Modem) for an Apple Macintosh SE/30 IIci
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:45:50 -, Geraint Searle - Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for recomendations on the following ; 1. Software - Best Internet Browser Coo. iCab, or maybe WamCom or Opera 6 2. Software - Best Mail Application Eudora - or WamCom or Opera 6 3. Software - Best Faxing Application No idea. Never do it. Have not sent a fax this century. 4. Hardware - Best Data/Fax Modem Any external 56K serial job with a cable. I'd also look at chat clients for AIM, ICQ, MSN and Yahoo, but that will be tricky on 68k Classic... -- Liam Proven Home: http://welcome.to/liamsweb * Blog: http://lproven.livejournal.com AOL, Yahoo UK: liamproven * ICQ: 73187508 * MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Best Software/Hardware (Browser/Mail/Faxing Modem) for an Apple Macintosh SE/30 IIci
At 06:45 PM 3/25/05 -, you wrote: I have the following hardware ; Apple Macintosh SE/30, 128Mb, 2.0Gb HDD, Apple MacOS 7.5.5 with MS-Office 4.3 Retrospect v3.0 Adaptec Toast v3.5.7 used with HP Surestore DAT8 DDS2 Drive Lacie CD-RW + Asante Network Card. Apple Macintosh IIci, 128Mb, 2.0Gb HDD, Apple MacOS 7.6.1 with MS-Office 4.3 Retrospect v3.0 Adaptec Toast v3.5.7 with HP Surestore DAT8 Drive Lacie CD-RW with Apple Macintosh 21 Monitor + Asante Network Card Can't help you with the software, but you got quite some hardware to brag about. Talk about fully loaded! My Mac iici is 12/80, A/UX 3.01 (Okay, that is supposed to run on the WGS 95), 12 monochrome monitor, Apple network card. Where do you get the 16 MB SIMMs? eBay? Edwin schnitt Many Thanks Geraint -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Best Software/Hardware (Browser/Mail/Faxing Modem) for an Apple Macintosh SE/30 IIci
I have the following hardware ; Apple Macintosh SE/30, 128Mb, 2.0Gb HDD, Apple MacOS 7.5.5 with MS-Office 4.3 Retrospect v3.0 Adaptec Toast v3.5.7 used with HP Surestore DAT8 DDS2 Drive Lacie CD-RW + Asante Network Card. Apple Macintosh IIci, 128Mb, 2.0Gb HDD, Apple MacOS 7.6.1 with MS-Office 4.3 Retrospect v3.0 Adaptec Toast v3.5.7 with HP Surestore DAT8 Drive Lacie CD-RW with Apple Macintosh 21 Monitor + Asante Network Card I am looking for recomendations on the following ; 1. Software - Best Internet Browser 2. Software - Best Mail Application 3. Software - Best Faxing Application 4. Hardware - Best Data/Fax Modem Look forward to your recommendations Many Thanks Geraint -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Best Software/Hardware (Browser/Mail/Faxing Modem) for an Apple Macintosh SE/30 IIci
At 18:45 + 3/25/05, Geraint Searle - Web wrote: Apple Macintosh SE/30, 128Mb, 2.0Gb HDD, Apple MacOS 7.5.5 1. Software - Best Internet Browser Nothing even close to modern enough for serious use on the SE/30. 2. Software - Best Mail Application Eudora 5 or lower or possibly Versaterm / Versaterm Link 3. Software - Best Faxing Application 4. Hardware - Best Data/Fax Modem Global FAX, but it requires a GlobalFAX modem -- -- Did you hear that Wendy's has begun offering finger bowls? -- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end ofinstallation ?
I recently done another install with OS 7.6 IIci with the option All Suported Macintosh's as opposed to This Macintosh Only No Problems, this is strange ! ? Just thought I would give you an update on the problem. Many Thanks Geraint Searle - Original Message - From: Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end ofinstallation ? on 9/22/04 12:38 PM, Geraint Searle - Web at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply Jeff. The only thing I have noticed, is that after installing OS7.6 from a Bootable CD with external CD-ROM - After OS7.6 has finished installing - Finishing Installation, as opposed to coming back to a installation screen - it just hangs, by pressing the rest button on the back of the IIci the IIci restarts, it boots into OS7.6 with no problems. ~ I just tried that this morning with your results. We'll need to see if it's fixable by using an any Mac, universal install versus one specifically for a IIci. OR vice versa. JEff G -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: What version of Dantz Retrospect would work with an Apple Macintosh IIci with 128Mb 2.0GB SCSI running Mac OS7.6.1 in conjunction with an external HP Surestore DAT8 Drive (HP C1533A)
Geraint Searle - Web wrote: Q1) Which version of Dantz Retrospect would work with the following setup ; Apple Macintosh IIci with 128Mb 2.0GB SCSI running Mac OS7.6.1 in conjunction with an external HP Surestore DAT8 Drive (HP C1533A) I think it should be Dantz Retrospect v4.0, although I am still awaiting a reply from Dantz on this. Q2) Does anyone, know where to obtain this software on CD ? (Already looked on Ebay ALL are Express version or 4.3 version - Which I think is no good for my setup) Hi Geraint. I know squat about Retrospect but I can send you a copy of Redux2.6.2(68k) 262k to try? Quote MUGWump of Mac n Dos: Redux Backup 2.6.2; originally commercial now freeware; full HD backup only (but will update previous backups without backing up everything again); spans media; separate 68K/FAT/PPC versions; no compare or verify function, no file compression; small, so can fit on almost anything. Decent basic backup program. Dantz Retrospect Express Backup 4.3; commercial; backs up files in any configuration you want; does smart incremental backup; spans media; verifies backup; does file compression; doesn't specify processor support but does support System 7.0-9.x, so it may support 68K Macs. (The current version supports OS 9.x-X.x.) Full package even comes with a Windows version! Mugzies comments are his alone. ;) He mentions something about Central Point Backup but I've never seen or tried it. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: What version of Dantz Retrospect would work with an Apple Macintosh IIci with 12
Whew! Long subject G My 3.0 version has the following requirements: Hardware Mac Plus or later or (and I quote) MacOS compatible equivalent. (Apple Macintosh 128K, 512K, 512KE, and XL/Lisa models my not be used) Hard disk drive with a minimum of 4MB free space A suitable backup device, with removable media if needed. Software ...requires System 7.0 or later Apple System software, or A/UX 3.0.1 Memory ...at least 4MB Unfortunately, the only HP DATs supported are 35450A, 35470A, C1534A, C1533A, 35480A, and C1536A. Don't know if the Surestore meets that criteria, but there you go. I'd say that if 4.0+ works with the drive, then you should be just fine. I picked up my copy from a 'lot' sale where the seller was letting a whole lot of stuff go (~30 lbs.) and much wasn't advertised. Look for these 'lot' sales and ask the seller for details. That $5 investment netted a Farallon StarController and 15 PhoneNet connectors (with terminators), an LC475, a couple of external hard drives, OS 7.6, Word, QuickMail...well, you get the idea. Good luck. Jack -- From: Geraint Searle - Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What version of Dantz Retrospect would work with an Apple Macintosh IIci with 128Mb 2.0GB SCSI running Mac OS7.6.1 in conjunction with an external HP Surestore DAT8 Drive (HP C1533A) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:17:13 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q1) Which version of Dantz Retrospect would work with the following setup ; Apple Macintosh IIci with 128Mb 2.0GB SCSI running Mac OS7.6.1 in conjunction with an external HP Surestore DAT8 Drive (HP C1533A) I think it should be Dantz Retrospect v4.0, although I am still awaiting a reply from Dantz on this. Q2) Does anyone, know where to obtain this software on CD ? (Already looked on Ebay ALL are Express version or 4.3 version - Which I think is no good for my setup) Many Thanks Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end of installation ?
on 9/22/04 12:38 PM, Geraint Searle - Web at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply Jeff. The only thing I have noticed, is that after installing OS7.6 from a Bootable CD with external CD-ROM - After OS7.6 has finished installing - Finishing Installation, as opposed to coming back to a installation screen - it just hangs, by pressing the rest button on the back of the IIci the IIci restarts, it boots into OS7.6 with no problems. ~ I just tried that this morning with your results. We'll need to see if it's fixable by using an any Mac, universal install versus one specifically for a IIci. OR vice versa. JEff G -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end of installation ?
Thanks for your reply Jeff. The only thing I have noticed, is that after installing OS7.6 from a Bootable CD with external CD-ROM - After OS7.6 has finished installing - Finishing Installation, as opposed to coming back to a installation screen - it just hangs, by pressing the rest button on the back of the IIci the IIci restarts, it boots into OS7.6 with no problems. I have tried this with various combinations ; 8 Mb Memory with No Cache Card with 80Mb Apple HDD 128Mb with No Cache Card with 80Mb Apple HDD 8 Mb Memory with Cache Card with 80Mb Apple HDD 128Mb with Cache Card with 80Mb Apple HDD 8 Mb Memory with No Cache Card with 2.0Gb Apple (Seagate) HDD 128Mb with No Cache Card with 2.0Gb Apple (Seagate) HDD 8 Mb Memory with Cache Card with 2.0Gb Apple (Seagate) HDD 128Mb with Cache Card with 2.0Gb Apple (Seagate) HDD No matter which configuration, it actually the same result - I have tried an installation with 7.5 / 7.5.3 7.5.5 no problems. Any Ideas on this one, would be appreciated. - Original Message - From: Jeff Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:21 AM Subject: Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end ofinstallation ? on 9/19/04 7:39 AM, Geraint Searle - Web at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old Technology - Installing OS7.6 on an IIci ; Has anyone experienced this problem ? I have installed OS 7.5.3 with 7.5.5 update with this system it doesn't experience the same problem (Is this an OS 7.6 feature ?). There are no Time Bombs or Freezing during normal operation, if in 7.5.3,7.55 or 7.6 - Only when installing 7.6. Any Ideas ? Many Thanks Geraint Searle ~~ I think it's a Daystar problem. The CD can't contain a driver for the accelerator. It may hang because of that lack, or the on-accelerator cache, if there is one piggybacked on the accelerator card. If you want to verify what I say, remove the accelerator and reinstall 7.6 on the IIci using it's 68030 processor. No hang means no proper driver for the Daystar CPU. Jeff G -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end of installation ?
Old Technology - Installing OS7.6 on an IIci ; Setup : Apple Macintosh IIci with 128Mb, DayStar Cache Card with 2.0Gb Seagate (Apple) SCSI HDD with Asante MCN1B Nubus Network Card with Apple External CD600e CD-ROM Drive. New Replacement Motherboard has been fitted no more Time Bombs or Freezing , With Thanks to Dr.O.M.Betz for his help on this.. The only thing I have noticed, is that after installing OS7.6 from a Bootable CD with external CD-ROM - After OS7.6 has finished installing - Finishing Installation, as opposed to coming back to a installation screen - it just hangs, the only method of exit is by pressing the reset button on the back of the IIci the IIci restarts, it boots into OS7.6 with no problems. Has anyone experienced this problem ? I have installed OS 7.5.3 with 7.5.5 update with this system it doesn't experience the same problem (Is this an OS 7.6 feature ?). There are no Time Bombs or Freezing during normal operation, if in 7.5.3,7.55 or 7.6 - Only when installing 7.6. Any Ideas ? Many Thanks Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Installation of OS7.6 on an IIci - Freezing at the end of installation ?
on 9/19/04 7:39 AM, Geraint Searle - Web at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old Technology - Installing OS7.6 on an IIci ; Has anyone experienced this problem ? I have installed OS 7.5.3 with 7.5.5 update with this system it doesn't experience the same problem (Is this an OS 7.6 feature ?). There are no Time Bombs or Freezing during normal operation, if in 7.5.3,7.55 or 7.6 - Only when installing 7.6. Any Ideas ? Many Thanks Geraint Searle ~~ I think it's a Daystar problem. The CD can't contain a driver for the accelerator. It may hang because of that lack, or the on-accelerator cache, if there is one piggybacked on the accelerator card. If you want to verify what I say, remove the accelerator and reinstall 7.6 on the IIci using it's 68030 processor. No hang means no proper driver for the Daystar CPU. Jeff G -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
What is the best Nubus Video Card that can Drive a SVGA Monitor via Apple to SVGA Adpater in an Apple Macintosh IIci ?
My question is as follows ; Q1) What is the best Nubus Card for an Apple Macintosh IIci that can drive an Normal SVGA monitor @ 640 x 480 via an Apple to SVGA Adapter ? I know this is Old Technology, but would appreciate any advice. Look forward to your response. Kind Regards Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Problems with Formating an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54
Here is the set-up of the hardware that I have ; - 1 x Apple Macintosh IIci - 8 x 16Mb 30 pin SIMMS (70ns) - 1 x Seagate ST32151N 50pin Hard Disk Drive with Apple Logo - 1 x External Apple CD-ROM 600e I having problems with Formatting an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54. Is the process of event that occurred. 1. Received an Seagate ST32151N from a Supplier that hade already pre-formatted. 2. Installed into IIci, Installed Apple Mac OS 7.5 - No Problems through booting from Floppy Disk (Disk Tools 1 - OS.7.5) 3. Installed Adaptec Toast 3.5.3 starting to have problems with the Application. 4. Attempted to perform an clean install of Mac OS7.6 - Used Disk Tools 1 - OS7.6 (68K SCSI HD Floppy) - Apple HD SC Setup vB1-7.3.5 used to perform Initialise Disk performed the Format, Verify, but came up with the following error message ; The Disk could not be initialised - Unable to write to disk (Continue) - On Selecting Continue, the Disk Icon disappeared from Desktop 5. Attempted to perform an clean install of Mac OS7.5 - Used Disk Tools 1 - OS7.5 ( - Apple HD SC Set-up vB1-7.3.2 used to perform Initialise Disk performed the Format, Verify, but came up with the following error message ; The Disk could not be initialised - Unable to write to disk (Continue) - On Selecting Continue, the Disk Icon disappeared from Desktop At this point, I thought that the disk could not be initialised using Apple HS SC Setup, therefore I thought I would use a 3rd Party product - Anubis 2.54 6. Booted the Apple Macintosh IIci using a Bootable OS7.6 CD-ROM - Used Anubis 2.54 from Floppy Disk Disk performed Format Disk performed Initialise Disk performed Partition Disk performed Install - Disk Icon appeared on Desktop 7. Attempted to perform an clean install of Mac OS7.6 - All Option Selected for Install - System Installed, But during Install - the install froze, no mouse or keyboard were operational - therefore no choice but to perform an hard reset. 8. Booted the Apple Macintosh IIci using a Bootable OS7.6 CD-ROM - Used Anubis 2.54 from Floppy Disk Disk performed Format (O.K) Disk performed Initialise (O.K - Writing Boot Partition) (O.K - Installing driver Icon on Disk) (Failed - Testing Blind Writes) - The driver will be installed with Blind Writes disabled - Error Writing Driver Has anybody any ideas of how I can fix this problem, help would be much appreciated ? Many Thanks Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problems with Formating an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54
First question: can you used any hard drive in this computer successfully? If not, you may have a computer hardware problem. But assuming it's just this drive... 1. Received an Seagate ST32151N from a Supplier that hade already pre-formatted. Technically, all drives a pre-formatted at the factory. Formatting programs don't actually format SCSI or ATA drives, the drive firmware does that. What they do is initialise the partitions and in the case of Macs install a driver that understands their partitioning scheme. Anyway, this is already a bad sign. Don't buy pre-formatted Mac hard drives, because there are formatting programs out there that can force even terminally sick drives to pass quite a lot of testing. Why they have this feature, I don't know: any SCSI drive that shows any uncorrectable hard errors, or otherwise fails to perform, is is almost certainly going to fail for good in the not-too-distant future. I won't say the vendor was trying to scam you, because they may well not understand this point. When I went through this they said these are used drives, you can't expect them to be perfect... no, sorry, disk drives don't work that way... either the firmware can hide any errors, or it's terminal. Get them to replace the drive, and reformat it when it gets in to make sure it's not a bad drive with the uncorrectable defects hidden. Incidentally, the drives I had the problems with were also Seagate Hawks. I wonder if it was the same vendor. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problems with Formating an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54
Peter, Thanks for replying to my email. In between sending the original email your reply, this is what I have actually done. I've tried the disk (Seagate ST32151N ) in an Apple IIsi the disk formats with Apple HD SC Setup vB1-7.3.5 with no problems it can take an install of Apple Macintosh System 7.6 from CD with no problems. I have tried a 80Mb HDD (Apple Drive) in the Apple Macintosh IIci perform the same operation the IIci is now reporting Sorry, A System Error Occurred. Bus Error, To Temporary turn off Extensions, restart and hold down the shift key - This would suggest that I have a SCSI Bus Problem on the IIci. Any Ideas of how I can fix this, Assume a New Motherboard ? Never Mind, Upwards onwards. Kind Regards Geraint Searle - Original Message - From: Peter da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Formating an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54 First question: can you used any hard drive in this computer successfully? If not, you may have a computer hardware problem. But assuming it's just this drive... 1. Received an Seagate ST32151N from a Supplier that hade already pre-formatted. Technically, all drives a pre-formatted at the factory. Formatting programs don't actually format SCSI or ATA drives, the drive firmware does that. What they do is initialise the partitions and in the case of Macs install a driver that understands their partitioning scheme. Anyway, this is already a bad sign. Don't buy pre-formatted Mac hard drives, because there are formatting programs out there that can force even terminally sick drives to pass quite a lot of testing. Why they have this feature, I don't know: any SCSI drive that shows any uncorrectable hard errors, or otherwise fails to perform, is is almost certainly going to fail for good in the not-too-distant future. I won't say the vendor was trying to scam you, because they may well not understand this point. When I went through this they said these are used drives, you can't expect them to be perfect... no, sorry, disk drives don't work that way... either the firmware can hide any errors, or it's terminal. Get them to replace the drive, and reformat it when it gets in to make sure it's not a bad drive with the uncorrectable defects hidden. Incidentally, the drives I had the problems with were also Seagate Hawks. I wonder if it was the same vendor. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problems with Formating an Seagate ST32151N with an Apple Macintosh IIci OS7.5/7.6 + Anubis 2.54
Any Ideas of how I can fix this, Assume a New Motherboard ? If you think a IIci is worth fixing, then I nearly think that's your only practical course of action. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Fit an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi - Is there a Converter ?
Is it possible to connect an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor with See Through Casing - 17 (16-inch viewable) Natural Flat Diamondtron CRT display with built in colorsync to maintain true colours, max resolution 1600x1200 and has a system power on button and 2 USB ports to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi with an Adpator Converter (Is there such one ?). Many Thanks Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Fit an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi - Is there a Converter ?
Just a guess out on a limb here... No. and No On 8/28/04 4:35 PM, Geraint Searle - Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to connect an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor with See Through Casing - 17 (16-inch viewable) Natural Flat Diamondtron CRT display with built in colorsync to maintain true colours, max resolution 1600x1200 and has a system power on button and 2 USB ports to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi with an Adpator Converter (Is there such one ?). Many Thanks Geraint Searle -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci or IIsi - Is there a Converter ?
On 28 Aug 2004, at 20:00, Geraint Searle - Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to connect an Apple 17 Studio Display Monitor with See Through Casing - 17 (16-inch viewable) Natural Flat Diamondtron CRT display with built in colorsync to maintain true colours, max resolution 1600x1200 and has a system power on button and 2 USB ports to an Apple Macintosh IIci or IIsi with an Adpator Converter (Is there such one ?). Whilst it may not work with the built-in video on the IIci or IIsi, the monitor should work with a decent 24bit NuBus video card plus an adapter to covert the 15 pin Apple D-connector to VGA. With the NuBus card, your Mac should also run more quickly. Phil --- http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
cam utility for SE/30 or IIci?
Greetings; I have a use for my old SE/30 (7.5.5) or a IIci plus my old Quickcam (I have greyscale and color models, something should work on the SE)- I need to grab photos if/when someone enters a laboratory room. IIRC the old QuickCAM software would take photos in that situation, but I thought that there was some classic-MacOS-era software that would email photos as well (I'e got an ethernet card in the SE, not sure if I have one for the IIci). A bit of googling and I've not turned up anything yet; is there anything that would work on this hardware? Applescript it to Eudora? I've never written script and I'm not sure how many hooks are in Eudora- could one script an attachment? Thanks for thoughts; Brian -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac IICI rom in SE/30?
so does anyone have soemthing that I could get this to work with? or the names so I can scour ebay for them? -Joe QUOTE There are 2 PDS slot adapters that will work. 1..The one made for the SE/30, which is extremely rare. 2..The one made for the IIsi, which is less rare. It is buggy in the SE/30, but nothing that can't be worked around. It also doesn't properly fit in the SE/30 but that can also be worked around. /QUOTE The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac IICI rom in SE/30?
or the names so I can scour ebay for them? -Joe Go to eBay's Apple category, http://pages.ebay.com/catindex/catapple.html and enter the word daystar into the search engine. To be more thorough also do searchs on the word iisi and the word se/30. But it takes patience, those puppies don't show up very often. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Mac IICI rom in SE/30?
on 6/13/03 10:33 PM, Joe WF Runnels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realized that the SE/30 is a lot liek the II CI, and I took the ram from my IICI and put it in my SE/30 to bring it to 8Mb and was wondering if the cache card of the IICI will work in my SE/30? the socket looks very similar if not identical... -Joe Really, the SE/30 is like the IIsi. They can share cards and stuff. And a IIsi with an accelerator is quite a machine. So's the SE/30. Jeff -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci ROM SIMM in SE/30
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:36:49 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Walthers and I have been working on making IIci ROM SIMMS from scratch. The first prototype is built and working in one of my SE/30's. Jeff did the hard part and I supplied the dumb labor (Which I'm good at. :-) Yeah, whipping up a printed circuit board design at home, etching the board, grinding it down because the needed SIMM is an odd thickness and getting the components all on there by hand was the dumb part. :-) Gamba did most of the work and very impressive it was. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
IIci ROM SIMM in SE/30.
Hi Listers, Jeff Walthers and I have been working on making IIci ROM SIMMS from scratch. The first prototype is built and working in one of my SE/30's. Jeff did the hard part and I supplied the dumb labor (Which I'm good at. :-) Funny thing is, the SIMM won't work in a IIci! (with ROM Select jumper removed) So far the only testing has been with 7.5.3 that was hacked to accomodate a IIsi ROM SIMM. Maybe later today I'll throw some documentation up on the website. Watch for a link on the home page. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
This seems to make it much more difficult to adapt the IIci ROMs to the SE/30. Jeff Walther I have seen 3 variations of the SE/30 rom simms. On two of the three I was able to identify the base part number of the chips: 1..Apple part numbers HN62321 series.. base ROM part number HN6231, which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. 2..Apple part numbers 342S0651 series.. base ROM part number 27C512, which is (64K X 8). The package is PLCC-32 3..Apple part numbers 342S0639 series.. base ROM part number (unknown), which is (unknown). The package is PLCC-44 My IIsi ROM simm has Apple part number 341S0820 series, which are base ROM part number N27C010-120V10 which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. All the above info is at file://localhost/HD1030/--www_earthlink/os8_se30.html#simm Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), you could copy the code from them, into new ROM chips (1..) above. But of course you would need that particular SE/30 ROM simm. If I have an extra and if above makes sense, you can have it. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Correctiion: Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: All the above info is at file://localhost/HD1030/--www_earthlink/os8_se30.html#simm Well now, that was kinda stupid wasn't it? It's actually http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/os8_se30.html#simm Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: My IIsi ROM simm has Apple part number 341S0820 series, which are base ROM part number N27C010-120V10 which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. Correction, the package on these is PLCC-32, not SOIC-32 Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), And I just checked, they are (128K X 8). So, because the 27C010 is EPROM instead of Mask ROM, seems like you could just copy the code from the IIci chips into new 27C010s and put those 27C010s into the appropiate SE/30 ROM simm. A handy URL that I ran across is http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I saw this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4610item=2087361728 on Ebay. Anyone else have one of these in their SE/30? Does yours have one or two chips installed? Jeff Walther Mine has only one chip installed and it works with all the various accelerator configurations at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html,, so I don't think that the missing chip on yours is going to be problem. FWIW here's a schematic of the DayStar IIsi PDS adapter: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/iisi_adapter_prelim.PDF DayStar used a bunch of chip resistors, as jumpers, to program the card for various configurations Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:19:39 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] This seems to make it much more difficult to adapt the IIci ROMs to the SE/30. Jeff Walther I have seen 3 variations of the SE/30 rom simms. On two of the three I was able to identify the base part number of the chips: 1..Apple part numbers HN62321 series.. base ROM part number HN6231, which is (128K X 8). The package is SOIC-32. Correction, the package on these is PLCC-32, not SOIC-32 Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), you could copy the code from them, into new ROM chips (1..) above. Yes, the IIci ROMs are 128K X 8 in a DIP package. Most any PLCC-32 128K X 8 chip should work. All the ones I've seen have the same pinout with the variation being only in WE and VPP or the analogous pins. Since the device will be used for read-only once it is on the SE/30 ROM module, the placement of above pins shouldn't matter as long as they aren't tied active. I have a bunch of Atmel AT49F010 on hand, which is what I plan to use. I guess the only thing that could trip this up, is if there is some significant variation in timing or wave-form from the older OTP EPROMs. But of course you would need that particular SE/30 ROM simm. If I have an extra and if above makes sense, you can have it. That is a very kind offer. Number 1 above is the one that would make this project work if you have one available. I would be happy to send you this SE/30 ROM module in exchange. Shall I contact you off list? Assuming the IIci ROMS are (128K X 8), And I just checked, they are (128K X 8). So, because the 27C010 is EPROM instead of Mask ROM, seems like you could just copy the code from the IIci chips into new 27C010s and put those 27C010s into the appropiate SE/30 ROM simm. Apple appears to have used One Time Programmable EPROMs for a fair number of these modules. But any non-volatile storage device of the correct capacity and pinout will probably work. The pinouts of Mask ROMs, EPROMs, EEPROMs and Flash of the same capacity, organization and package type tend to be the same regardless of the underlying technology. So, for example, while the mask ROMs in Apple's 7200,. x500 and x600 machines might be a Macronix MX23C8100 or equivalent Sharp or Samsung KM23C8100 ROM, one can substitute an Atmel AT49F8192-90RC or Hyundai HY29F800BG Flash memory if it is programmed with the appropriate code. A handy URL that I ran across is http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt That's very cool. I don't have any arcade games, but I'm glad someone is keeping those old things going. I really liked some of the old ones. Gamba, thanks again for the information. Please let me know about the ROM module. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:57:25 -0800 From: Gamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4610item=2087361728 on Ebay. Anyone else have one of these in their SE/30? Does yours have one or two chips installed? Jeff Walther Mine has only one chip installed and it works with all the various accelerator configurations at http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html,, so I don't think that the missing chip on yours is going to be problem. Thank you. That is reassuring. FWIW here's a schematic of the DayStar IIsi PDS adapter: http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/images/iisi_adapter_prelim.PDF DayStar used a bunch of chip resistors, as jumpers, to program the card for various configurations Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? He's running a three or four person company supporting and repairing some of the old Daystar and XLR8 products. He worked for both companies at various points. He might have access to some of the old Daystar documentation. It's hard to imagine what harm there could be in releasing a lot of that information at this point. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I wrote: Sure would be great if that info were available somewhere. Jeff Walther wrote: Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? We hereby appoint you! :-) Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
I have a bunch of Atmel AT49F010 on hand, which is what I plan to use. The one of three types of SE/30 ROM simms that has identifable 128X8 ROMS are Mask ROMs in an SOIC-32 package. Do you have 128X8 EPROMS in that package? I guess the only thing that could trip this up, is if there is some significant variation in timing or wave-form from the older OTP EPROMs. Seems to me that if they are equal or faster access times they should work in a 16 MHz circuit, even if (perish the thought!) Apple is using both edges of the clock. Number 1 above is the one that would make this project work if you have one available. I just looked, and I have an extra. I'll see you off-list. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: IIci to SE/30 ROM and Daystar Adapter
At 18:24 -0600 on 13/01/03, Jeff Walther wrote: Has anyone tried contacting Gary Dailey of Daystar Technology? He's running a three or four person company supporting and repairing some of the old Daystar and XLR8 products. He worked for both companies AFAIK he isn't working in that capacity any more, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have information :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
Got this off ebay. It arrived with the turbo 601 loose in the IIci. When I put it back together it would not boot with the turbo 601 card installed. It made a real fast startup chime and that's it. The IIci does work with a 040 card. I want this card to work! What can I do? johnsn -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
along with System 7.5 or higher? the pickle And is the OS 7.5 or higher a universal install for all Macs? Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
At 23:01 +0100 on 15/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Gamba wrote: along with System 7.5 or higher? the pickle And is the OS 7.5 or higher a universal install for all Macs? Like 7.1, it depends on how new the Mac is. Some PowerMacs require an enabler IIRC. I don't know about the 601 cards. All of them require 7.5 and up. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
At 12:06 AM 4/16/2002 +0100, you wrote: Of course they do DONG - hit's himself with a heavy object 7.5 was the first PPC OS, duh. I seem to recall the 6100/7100/8100s would run some version of 7.1. I think 7.5 was the first with any PPC code though. Scott Holder -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
No. 7.1.2 or 7.1.3 was the first with ppc code. You can't run an os without any ppc code on a ppc. On dinsdag, april 16, 2002, at 01:08 , Scott Holder wrote: At 12:06 AM 4/16/2002 +0100, you wrote: Of course they do DONG - hit's himself with a heavy object 7.5 was the first PPC OS, duh. I seem to recall the 6100/7100/8100s would run some version of 7.1. I think 7.5 was the first with any PPC code though. -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
No. 7.1.2 or 7.1.3 was the first with ppc code. You can't run an os without any ppc code on a ppc. Just out of curiosity I checked my PPC 7.1.2 disk images for PPC code, using PowerPCheck, and I couldn't find any PPC code. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Turbo 601 in a IIci doesn't work
No. 7.1.2 or 7.1.3 was the first with ppc code. You can't run an os without any ppc code on a ppc. Just out of curiosity I checked my PPC 7.1.2 disk images for PPC code, using PowerPCheck, and I couldn't find any PPC code. The 68K emulator is in ROM for the PowerPCs. I heard that the first MacOS's had a lot of 68K code, only common routines (like QuickDraw) were brought to PowerPC code. Matt -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Modem IIci worries....
On Friday, April 12, 2002, at 06:26 PM, the pickle wrote: Mine never had any problem with 28.8, but I haven't tried it with 56K due to my lack of a working 56K modem at the moment... Well, y'all find out when I get the IIci in a few weeks :). If it doesn't work it looks like DHCP and Internet will ber firmly rooted (or should the be routed - waaahwaaahh!!) to my LCIII(475). -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... SPECIAL LIST PRICES - Replacement Apple CDROMs from $19.99, MacOS 8.5 CD $79.99 PPC 5400/200Mhz 16/1.6GB/CD/ENET/L2 $119, 5+ for $99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: transferring to SE, zip drivers, IIci games
On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 louisa sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: IOMEGA ZIP DRIVERS i only need to do the above once, to get iomega drivers onto the machine. http://members.nbci.com/macdrivers/ anyone feel like assuring me that the Iomega Zip Driver v4.2 (48 k) really does work on a Mac+ up if installed manually into system. For setting up the Zip drivers, I have been able to boot a Mac SE from a Zip drive, with those drivers installed on a system folder on the zip disk. This will save you the pain of writing an 800k disk. Pretty cool trick, just be sure to use the correct key combo to boot from an external drive (escapes me at the moment, I'm sure everyone else will remember). Don't try this with your PC. ;) later, ben. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newton Connections: The most obsessively updated Newton news site on the web. http://mail.jcsarchitects.com/~ben Newton. Still intelligent after all these years. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html - - - - - Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: transferring to SE, zip drivers, IIci games
Compact Macs wrote... From: louisa sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: transferring to SE, zip drivers, IIci games anyone feel like assuring me that the Iomega Zip Driver v4.2 (48 k) really does work on a Mac+ up if installed manually into system. i can only assume, installing manually means dragging it to the systems or extensions folder...? l. Iomega Driver 4.2 works fine for me in 6.0.8 on oldie machines. Bob F -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html 123Inkjets.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/123inkjets.html - - - - - Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
