Re: New Low End Mac email lists
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:34:46 -0800 From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Low End Mac email lists At 10:00 PM -0600 1/26/06, Jeff Walther wrote: I was quite active reading those newsgroups and now rarely visit. I remember seeing Clark Martin's (a regular poster to this list) postings on Usenet regularly as well but can't say if he's still participating or not. He is and I didn't know I was so well known. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting Well, it seemed to me like you posted quite a bit (and very helpfully) to the news groups. But it could also be that when I started reading Usenet (early - mid 90's) a good friend of mine had just moved to Redwood City and so your sig line caught my eye Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
On 26 Jan 2006, at 07:33, NODEraser wrote: Whatever happened to ye-olde UseNet newsgroups? About the only use I've heard for them lately, is pictures and video. And the subscription fees for that are pretty nasty. I remember that many ISPs offered free newsgroup access, but that was back in the days when text was the primary use for said medium. uk.comp.sys.mac manages to be pretty useful and spam-free, though subject to a lot of OT posts that are of interest to the 50 or so people who are the main posters. My ISP now charges for newsgroups, but a server in Berlin charges just 10 Euros a year for the privilege. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. A browser based system would IMO be a bad thing for me and I would likely have to stop participating if this list did move :-( Google groups don't have to be read in-browser. There is still a handy feature that allows regular old email to make its way to your inbox. If Google puts a lot of JavaScript into the list messages it will really make a mess. Will all messages be delivered as HTML - a bad idea. Google Groups does not alter messages sent to the list in any way. No JavaScript or anything else is added. Plain-text messages will be passed on as plain text, HTML as HTML. The digests for English- language lists go out as plain-text ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1). Right now, there is no way to set a Google list to require plain-text messages, but Google may be willing to implement such a feature if there is enough interest. I'm involved with another list (Chinese Mac) that has been beta-testing Google to fix problems with its multilingual features so we can move from Yahoo, which has long- standing issues in that area. One major difference between Yahoo and Google is that Google converts everything to UTF-8 (Unicode) for the online display. That is great for a multilingual list like Chinese Mac, and I don't think it should make any difference for a list like Compact Macs (UTF-8 is the same as ISO-8859-1 for the Latin-1 character set). We've only been testing for two weeks, but we have received prompt responses from the Google engineers. We have identified one bug we need to have fixed and we have one major feature request without which there's no point in switching from Yahoo (we need to be able to have our digests go out as UTF-8). So far, nothing has changed, but it's only been a short while. Eric Rasmussen -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
One decent use for gmail is using it to set up google groups, and then you can get those messages emailed to you in digest form. In Firefox I often have javascript disabled and the gmail interface works fine. I imagine if you were using a mac email client, you could just have those gmails forwarded to your client address. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:33:30 -0800 From: NODEraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever happened to ye-olde UseNet newsgroups? About the only use I've heard for them lately, is pictures and video. And the subscription fees for that are pretty nasty. I remember that many ISPs offered free newsgroup access, but that was back in the days when text was the primary use for said medium. The comp.sys.mac.*** hierarchy is still around and reasonably active. However, the proliferation of web based fora have significantly dented the number and frequency of participants. It's sad because it causes a dilution of the community and while you could pretty much count on meeting everyone active in Macdom on the news groups, now days, if you don't hit every website, you're going to miss some great people somewhere. I was quite active reading those newsgroups and now rarely visit. I remember seeing Clark Martin's (a regular poster to this list) postings on Usenet regularly as well but can't say if he's still participating or not. Comp.sys.mac.wanted, which was the best, free place to exchange, sell and buy Mac related stuff is pretty much dead now. Ebay killed it. Or rather the sellers and buyers have all moved to Ebay. It's too bad, because now you can pay huge fees to sell things (and indirectly to buy things) that once folks bought and sold for free. Plus, if an item was clearly bogus and listed in comp.sys.mac.wanted, someone was sure to drop by and post a message pointing out the blunder. Ebay claims that they offer security and protection, but I've had more per-exchange problems on Ebay than I ever had in the news groups. In news groups, if someone was a scammer, his name got posted around enough to alert anyone willing to do a little searching, pretty quickly. Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
We've created some new email lists, but they're different from the old ones. We're using Google Groups, which means you can sign up, change your status, and read postings using your browser. I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. I am surprised no one else commented on this, or am I the only one who uses his compact mac to read and write to the list? A browser based system would IMO be a bad thing for me and I would likely have to stop participating if this list did move :-( Regards Sean -- Classic Computing Pages: http://www.megadon.co.uk/syrinx/ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
On 1/25/06, Sean Billings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. I am surprised no one else commented on this, or am I the only one who uses his compact mac to read and write to the list? A browser based system would IMO be a bad thing for me and I would likely have to stop participating if this list did move :-( Google groups don't have to be read in-browser. There is still a handy feature that allows regular old email to make its way to your inbox. -- - Matthew Reidsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston, MA U.S.A. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
At 20:48 + 1/25/06, Sean Billings wrote: I am surprised no one else commented on this, or am I the only one who uses his compact mac to read and write to the list? A browser based system would IMO be a bad thing for me and I would likely have to stop participating if this list did move :-( I use Eudora 5.1 for lists and I would be unhappy if Google got in the way. Yahoo groups work OK with ordinary email apps. But then gmail is a total disaster and essentially doesn't work with old mail clients. If Google puts a lot of JavaScript into the list messages it will really make a mess. Will all messages be delivered as HTML - a bad idea. -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, but not thoroughly, thought through. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Low End Mac email lists
Whatever happened to ye-olde UseNet newsgroups? About the only use I've heard for them lately, is pictures and video. And the subscription fees for that are pretty nasty. I remember that many ISPs offered free newsgroup access, but that was back in the days when text was the primary use for said medium. On 1/25/06, Doug McNutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 20:48 + 1/25/06, Sean Billings wrote: I am surprised no one else commented on this, or am I the only one who uses his compact mac to read and write to the list? A browser based system would IMO be a bad thing for me and I would likely have to stop participating if this list did move :-( I use Eudora 5.1 for lists and I would be unhappy if Google got in the way. Yahoo groups work OK with ordinary email apps. But then gmail is a total disaster and essentially doesn't work with old mail clients. If Google puts a lot of JavaScript into the list messages it will really make a mess. Will all messages be delivered as HTML - a bad idea. -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, but not thoroughly, thought through. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New Low End Mac email lists
We've created some new email lists, but they're different from the old ones. We're using Google Groups, which means you can sign up, change your status, and read postings using your browser. I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. The Macintel list, which covers all Intel-based Macs, went live last week and has 57 members. Once the MacBook Pro ships, we're ready to launch the MacBook List. I've also set up a Mac mini List. Details: Macintel List: http://groups.google.com/group/macintel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac mini List: http://groups.google.com/group/Mac-mini-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacBook List: http://groups.google.com/group/macbook-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can join any of these lists, but the MacBook List will not go live until the MacBooks start shipping in February. Until then, all Mac-on-Intel discussion should be on the Macintel List. Dan the listmom -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
