RE: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-14 Thread David Fotland
Many Faces has the same issue. The pruning and tuning that is required for 19x19 doesn't help 9x9. It seems that now the programs are strong enough that 9x9 requires a good opening book, and I'd rather spend my time making 19x19 stronger. David Zen's algorithm is getting heavier and

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-13 Thread Darren Cook
The difference between ManyFaces blitz and slow is also a lovely gem of information. A quick check shows both accounts are playing a lot of I have a data about this. AyaMC4 and AyaMC play on same condition, but it is not for human. AyaMC4 is blitz. Human is about 1 rank weaker in blitz.

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
I think we can guess something from CGOS rating. I made a table about CGOS and KGS bot rating. At least in 19x19, CGOS and KGS rank is similar. CGOS KGS? CGOS 9x9 CGOS 19x19 KGS rank 19x19 1800 6k gnugo3.7.10 gnugo3.7.106k GnuGo (postneo, etc) 1900 5k 2000 4k 2100 3k

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Darren Cook
Thanks for all the replies! It is much appreciated. Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: I think we can guess something from CGOS rating. I made a table about CGOS and KGS bot rating. At least in 19x19, CGOS and KGS rank is similar. That is a very interesting table. It is curious that Zen is only 2 ranks

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Petr Baudis
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:08:07PM +0900, Darren Cook wrote: Thanks for all the replies! It is much appreciated. Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: I think we can guess something from CGOS rating. I made a table about CGOS and KGS bot rating. At least in 19x19, CGOS and KGS rank is similar.

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Darren Cook
The difference between ManyFaces blitz and slow is also a lovely gem of information. 2300 1k pachi-c919f1k ManyFaces (30minutes) 2400 1d mfgo12-610-2c 1d ManyFaces1 (10sec blitz) My guess is that this is caused by huge amount of domain-knowledge from

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Yamato
Darren Cook wrote: Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: I think we can guess something from CGOS rating. I made a table about CGOS and KGS bot rating. At least in 19x19, CGOS and KGS rank is similar. That is a very interesting table. It is curious that Zen is only 2 ranks higher on 9x9. However Aya is 4

Re: [computer-go] Rank on servers at 9x9

2010-02-12 Thread Hideki Kato
Darren Cook: 4b7552b7.9060...@dcook.org: Thanks for all the replies! It is much appreciated. Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: I think we can guess something from CGOS rating. I made a table about CGOS and KGS bot rating. At least in 19x19, CGOS and KGS rank is similar. That is a very interesting