Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-12 Thread Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen
Does Linux have a decent development environment yet? After using Visual studio, it would be a horrible loss of productivity to go back to vi/make/gdb. Of course the linux command line tools are great when you want them, but they are available on Windows through cygwin, so by developing on

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-12 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen wrote: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. OK ? Many companies creates linux software and make a good living. Sendmail is one of them. They don't make a living

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-12 Thread Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen
Unfortunately I don't know how to sell support for my Go program, but I am open to ideas. I am sorry but I don't think it is possible to earn a living making Go program under linux. But maybe your problem could compile both under windows and linux and sell the linux version. /Martin

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-12 Thread terry mcintyre
--- Gian-Carlo Pascutto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen wrote: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. OK ? Many companies creates linux software and make a good

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Daniel Burgos
users think this either. - Don David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux I'll second both the original

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Mark Boon
On 9-apr-08, at 13:11, David Fotland wrote: Does Linux have a decent development environment yet? It probably depends on the language. Java has several excellent development environments that are superior to Visual Studio IMO. And they're portable. I believe Eclipse can be made to work

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Andrés Domínguez
2008/4/9, David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. MS Windows users also insist that you give your work for free, look at emule. Maybe you are wrong and loosing sales.

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Don Dailey
Petri Pitkanen wrote: 2008/4/9, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. I don't have any issue whatsoever with making money by selling software either.

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Don Dailey
: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux I'll second both the original poster (his troubles with Linux mirrored mine) and the reply (I was completely enthralled with Ubuntu...WOW!). Jim - Original Message

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread Nick Wedd
Ok, I'm going to speak up in defence of Microsoft. (I'm not really that fond of them, and I am thinking of moving to Linux, particularly if Vista is as bad as I have heard.) I became anti-Mac when trying to buy one for my then employer. It seemed like a reasonable deal, until the salesman

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-10 Thread steve uurtamo
The difference (and I'm not defending HP here) is that a print scheduler for your OS shouldn't even be *writable* by the install wizard for your printer. Imagine an OS environment where a printer is a completely passive device that accepts requests to print onto paper. Imagine that it doesn't

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Álvaro Begué
Get ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/). You can ask them to send you a free CD. And you should consider getting a decent Internet connection. Álvaro. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got excited about the free software sometime ago and bought a copy of Susie Linux.

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread terry mcintyre
You can buy CDs from places like osdisc.com for a few dollars; it's not extravagant. Not being able to burn an iso is one of the defects of Windoze; Linux/OS X/Free BSD systems include that capability at no extra charge. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?I got excited about the free software

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Jason House
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got excited about the free software sometime ago and bought a copy of Susie Linux. But the installation always hang up at some point and can never complete. I too have had some horrible linux installation nightmares. Most of that

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Jim O'Flaherty, Jr.
AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux Get ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/). You can ask them to send you a free CD. And you should consider getting a decent Internet connection. Álvaro. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got excited about the free

RE: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread David Fotland
: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux I'll second both the original poster (his troubles with Linux mirrored mine) and the reply (I was completely enthralled with Ubuntu...WOW!). Jim - Original Message From: Álvaro Begué

RE: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Ray Tayek
At 09:11 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: ... Does Linux have a decent development environment yet? After using Visual studio, it would be a horrible loss of productivity to go back to vi/make/gdb. .. eclipse has the cdt http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/ and there are some unit testing packages.

RE: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread terry mcintyre
--- David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. I bought a windoze version of Many Faces, and would be delighted to pay for a Linux version of MFG 12, whenever

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Lars Nilsson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:57 PM, terry mcintyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. I bought a windoze version of Many

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I begin to consder install Linux on my PC at home. With my?internet connection speed, downloading 600 MB is just unrealistic. The other option is to order CD's. They cost $45 and up and I'm sure this cost will?go up with time. So much for the

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Don Dailey
All I can say is that if even burning an ISO CD from windows frustrates you, you are probably not going to like Linux. Having said that, it's a bit ironic that burning an ISO image is easy in Linux but that you have to scour the web to find a way to do it in Windows.It's no surprise

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Don Dailey
. Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM To: computer-go Subject: Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux I'll second both the original poster (his troubles with Linux mirrored mine) and the reply (I was completely enthralled with Ubuntu...WOW!). Jim - Original Message From

Re: [computer-go] My experience with Linux

2008-04-09 Thread Petri Pitkanen
2008/4/9, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since I sell software, building Linux apps is out of the question, since Linux users will insist that I give them my work for free. I don't have any issue whatsoever with making money by selling software either. I'm not one of those guys