[computer-go] Re: euler numbers

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Paulson
Here are some links I found while reading the Euler numbers thread.

 

The first one is mentioned by Don and looks very useful for building an
actual algorithm. Its A Novel Morphological Operator To Calculate Euler
Number by Zhang and Stoecker.

http://scholarsmine.umr.edu/post_prints/pdf/00930291_09007dcc8030c7df.pdf

 

Next is the Gray paper Local Properties of Binary Images in Two
Dimensions.

http://turing.iimas.unam.mx/~elena/CompVis/Gray71BinaryImages.pdf

 

This paper has a brief description of the Quad algorithm applied to a game
called Lines of Action (LOA).

http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/m.winands/documents/The_Quad_Heuristic_in_Lines_of_
Action.pdf

 

Finally, there is this brief paper by my old undergraduate adviser at MIT
that extends the Euler number calculation to continuous gray scale domains,
but also briefly mentions the discrete case.

http://people.csail.mit.edu/bkph/articles/APE_continuous.pdf

 

Chuck Paulson

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Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournaments - various

2007-11-28 Thread Eric Boesch
On Nov 27, 2007 8:29 PM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ian Osgood wrote:
  Checking the participants, I see that MoGo and CrazyStone were
  specifically invited. Also playing is a version of GNU Go
  (presumably), as well as veterans Aya and Katsunari, and two dozen
  others.
 
  What boggles my mind is the lack of participation in these events from
  commercial players like KCC Igo, Haruka, Go4++, Handtalk, and Many Faces.
 It's because these programs will get killed by the top Monte Carlo
 programs.   It's risky competing when your reputation is involved.In
 fact, it's better not to compete than to compete and score poorly.

I was about to call you on the Many Faces case if Dave didn't. He has
never hesitated to admit it when other programs were stronger, and
Many Faces 11 plays on 19x19 CGOS when the site is up. Also, I don't
know if Handtalk is active development anymore. But you're basically
right, and your direct language is justified to cut through the
hemming and hawing.

Some programs do not compete because they are no longer being
maintained -- but these obsolescent programs would lose anyway. Other
programs do not compete because they would lose. Self-promotion while
ducking stronger competition still works, but hopefully more people
are starting to smell the trick's age. CrazyStone and Mogo win by
winning, not by hiding. I haven't even seen any reason to believe that
right now there exist any commercial programs that can make as strong
a claim to third place as the latest GnuGo or MonteGnu.

Aside: fair descriptions of your program and how it works, and
possibly what didn't work, can be very useful. The Mogo and CrazyStone
papers are excellent, and it would be great to see more of those
one-sentence program descriptions on Sensei's turned into links to
actual web pages. If any of you do this, be sure to inform the mailing
list. That kind of information is definitely not the sort of
self-promotion I was criticizing.
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Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*

2007-11-28 Thread Don Dailey
For the time being it's still here.  

Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and restart.

- Don


Joshua Shriver wrote:
 I loaded up dog and a gnugo bot on cgos 19, it connects gives the
 username password and just sits there.
 Normally I'd get a string giving time till next round but seems stuck
 at the login.

 BTW are cgos posts still being made on computer-go or did it get
 migrated off to sourceforge.
 -Josh
 

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Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*

2007-11-28 Thread Olivier Teytaud

Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and restart.


I kill and restart in a few minutes.

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[computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua Shriver
I loaded up dog and a gnugo bot on cgos 19, it connects gives the username
password and just sits there.
Normally I'd get a string giving time till next round but seems stuck at the
login.

BTW are cgos posts still being made on computer-go or did it get migrated
off to sourceforge.
-Josh
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Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*

2007-11-28 Thread Joshua Shriver
Thanks I put two bots in. dog and gnugo.
-Josh

On Nov 28, 2007 2:25 PM, Olivier Teytaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and
 restart.

 I kill and restart in a few minutes.

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Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem

2007-11-28 Thread Christoph Birk

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Harri Salakoski wrote:
I use pure java solutions when it is possible.  plain E3 atleast don't seem 
work, tried many other combinations also without success.


E3 \n

Christoph

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Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*

2007-11-28 Thread Jason House


On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 14:21 -0500, Don Dailey wrote:
 For the time being it's still here.  

SF.net support requests for 9x9 should now work.

Support requests has two groups
server down: 9x9   (auto-e-mails Don)
server down: 19x19 (don't use yet - Must get Olivier on sf.net)

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Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem

2007-11-28 Thread Chris Fant
He was not asking about GTP.  Anyway, the problem is solved now.

On Nov 28, 2007 4:49 PM, Jason House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 04:08 +0200, Harri Salakoski wrote:
  I use pure java solutions when it is possible.  plain E3 atleast don't seem
  work, tried many other combinations also without success.
  t. harri

 According to GTP, the simplest correct response is = G3\n\n



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Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem

2007-11-28 Thread Jason House

On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 04:08 +0200, Harri Salakoski wrote:
 I use pure java solutions when it is possible.  plain E3 atleast don't seem 
 work, tried many other combinations also without success.
 t. harri

According to GTP, the simplest correct response is = G3\n\n


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