[computer-go] Re: euler numbers
Here are some links I found while reading the Euler numbers thread. The first one is mentioned by Don and looks very useful for building an actual algorithm. Its A Novel Morphological Operator To Calculate Euler Number by Zhang and Stoecker. http://scholarsmine.umr.edu/post_prints/pdf/00930291_09007dcc8030c7df.pdf Next is the Gray paper Local Properties of Binary Images in Two Dimensions. http://turing.iimas.unam.mx/~elena/CompVis/Gray71BinaryImages.pdf This paper has a brief description of the Quad algorithm applied to a game called Lines of Action (LOA). http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/m.winands/documents/The_Quad_Heuristic_in_Lines_of_ Action.pdf Finally, there is this brief paper by my old undergraduate adviser at MIT that extends the Euler number calculation to continuous gray scale domains, but also briefly mentions the discrete case. http://people.csail.mit.edu/bkph/articles/APE_continuous.pdf Chuck Paulson www.PuffinwareLLC.com http://www.puffinwarellc.com/ iMetaSearch - indexing and clustering search results with Latent Semantic Analysis ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Computer Go tournaments - various
On Nov 27, 2007 8:29 PM, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Osgood wrote: Checking the participants, I see that MoGo and CrazyStone were specifically invited. Also playing is a version of GNU Go (presumably), as well as veterans Aya and Katsunari, and two dozen others. What boggles my mind is the lack of participation in these events from commercial players like KCC Igo, Haruka, Go4++, Handtalk, and Many Faces. It's because these programs will get killed by the top Monte Carlo programs. It's risky competing when your reputation is involved.In fact, it's better not to compete than to compete and score poorly. I was about to call you on the Many Faces case if Dave didn't. He has never hesitated to admit it when other programs were stronger, and Many Faces 11 plays on 19x19 CGOS when the site is up. Also, I don't know if Handtalk is active development anymore. But you're basically right, and your direct language is justified to cut through the hemming and hawing. Some programs do not compete because they are no longer being maintained -- but these obsolescent programs would lose anyway. Other programs do not compete because they would lose. Self-promotion while ducking stronger competition still works, but hopefully more people are starting to smell the trick's age. CrazyStone and Mogo win by winning, not by hiding. I haven't even seen any reason to believe that right now there exist any commercial programs that can make as strong a claim to third place as the latest GnuGo or MonteGnu. Aside: fair descriptions of your program and how it works, and possibly what didn't work, can be very useful. The Mogo and CrazyStone papers are excellent, and it would be great to see more of those one-sentence program descriptions on Sensei's turned into links to actual web pages. If any of you do this, be sure to inform the mailing list. That kind of information is definitely not the sort of self-promotion I was criticizing. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*
For the time being it's still here. Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and restart. - Don Joshua Shriver wrote: I loaded up dog and a gnugo bot on cgos 19, it connects gives the username password and just sits there. Normally I'd get a string giving time till next round but seems stuck at the login. BTW are cgos posts still being made on computer-go or did it get migrated off to sourceforge. -Josh ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*
Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and restart. I kill and restart in a few minutes. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*
I loaded up dog and a gnugo bot on cgos 19, it connects gives the username password and just sits there. Normally I'd get a string giving time till next round but seems stuck at the login. BTW are cgos posts still being made on computer-go or did it get migrated off to sourceforge. -Josh ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*
Thanks I put two bots in. dog and gnugo. -Josh On Nov 28, 2007 2:25 PM, Olivier Teytaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I do not manage the 19x19 server or I would kill and restart. I kill and restart in a few minutes. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Harri Salakoski wrote: I use pure java solutions when it is possible. plain E3 atleast don't seem work, tried many other combinations also without success. E3 \n Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19 down *think*
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 14:21 -0500, Don Dailey wrote: For the time being it's still here. SF.net support requests for 9x9 should now work. Support requests has two groups server down: 9x9 (auto-e-mails Don) server down: 19x19 (don't use yet - Must get Olivier on sf.net) ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem
He was not asking about GTP. Anyway, the problem is solved now. On Nov 28, 2007 4:49 PM, Jason House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 04:08 +0200, Harri Salakoski wrote: I use pure java solutions when it is possible. plain E3 atleast don't seem work, tried many other combinations also without success. t. harri According to GTP, the simplest correct response is = G3\n\n ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS down? Java client - basic GTP problem
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 04:08 +0200, Harri Salakoski wrote: I use pure java solutions when it is possible. plain E3 atleast don't seem work, tried many other combinations also without success. t. harri According to GTP, the simplest correct response is = G3\n\n ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/