Re: [computer-go] 9x9 challenge

2008-03-26 Thread Hideki Kato
terry mcintyre: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I attempted to access the games of IaGoChall, and could not; the KGS client beeped at me. Is there a method to review the game records? We can download but cannot review the records directly. Watch them at offline. -Hideki Thanks! Terry McIntyre lt;[EMAIL

Re: [computer-go] 9x9

2008-03-26 Thread Christoph Birk
On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Olivier Teytaud wrote: ... is room for improvement. But 19x19 is something else, perhaps we can have the Dan, but I'm not sure of that in spite of the gentle words of Catalin, and I'm sure the current mogo can't win against a professionnal player in 19x19

Re: [computer-go] 9x9

2008-03-26 Thread Nick Wedd
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christoph Birk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Olivier Teytaud wrote: ... is room for improvement. But 19x19 is something else, perhaps we can have the Dan, but I'm not sure of that in spite of the gentle words of Catalin, and I'm sure

RE: [computer-go] 9x9

2008-03-26 Thread David Fotland
This is not true. The Ing prize was for winning a best of 7 match against a top professional without handicap. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:computer-go- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Birk Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:32 AM To: computer-go

RE: [computer-go] 9x9

2008-03-26 Thread David Fotland
The lower level prizes were given for games against Insei, but the top prize was for play against t top professional. http://www.smart-games.com/worldcompgo.html I can't find any official data on-line, but the information in the page above was copied from the paper rules at the competition.

[computer-go] Ing Challenge

2008-03-26 Thread Christoph Birk
On Mar 26, 2008, at 9:47 AM, David Fotland wrote: The lower level prizes were given for games against Insei, but the top prize was for play against t top professional. http://www.smart-games.com/worldcompgo.html I can't find any official data on-line, but the information in the page

Re: [computer-go] 9x9

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
Christoph Birk wrote: On Mar 26, 2008, at 12:32 AM, Olivier Teytaud wrote: ... is room for improvement. But 19x19 is something else, perhaps we can have the Dan, but I'm not sure of that in spite of the gentle words of Catalin, and I'm sure the current mogo can't win against a

[computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Boon
Lately I have been putting some effort into pattern-matching. Although I have made progress, the result was not as good as what I had hoped for by about an order of magnitude. This makes me wonder what is currently actually the state of the art of pattern matching in Go. Of course it's a

[computer-go] MoGo/Taranu challenge in Paris

2008-03-26 Thread Nick Wedd
I have put a report of the weekend's challenge games between MoGo and Catalin Taranu 5p at http://www.computer-go.info/tc/ mainly to make it easier for people to find the game records. Nick -- Nick Wedd[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ computer-go mailing

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread David Doshay
Our pattern matching work is just now starting to run. We will post details when we have done more testing. Cheers, David On 26, Mar 2008, at 11:08 AM, Mark Boon wrote: Lately I have been putting some effort into pattern-matching. Although I have made progress, the result was not as good

Re: [computer-go] MoGo/Taranu challenge in Paris

2008-03-26 Thread Olivier Teytaud
I have put a report of the weekend's challenge games between MoGo and Catalin Taranu 5p at http://www.computer-go.info/tc/ mainly to make it easier for people to find the game records. Thanks a lot for that. Some points are wrong however, below some informations about the errors. The

[computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Boon
By the way, is CGOS working? I get connection refused when starting the viewer. Mark ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] MoGo/Taranu challenge in Paris

2008-03-26 Thread Olivier Teytaud
The hardware in case of trouble, which has been used for two games, is provided by Université Paris-Sud. Precisely: LRI, Université Paris-Sud.___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
Mark, I am doing some experimentation with something similar to patterns, but based on Naive Bayes classifiers. The idea is to use Naive Bayes classifiers to generalize patterns. The classifiers would still be focused on some constrained area of the board, such as the 5x5 matrix or

Re: [computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
It's working on my end. From time to time I have to restart the server, due to the bug I haven't yet fixed where the server believes a player is still logged in when he isn't. So I just kicked the server.When the current round of game is complete, the server will shutdown and

Re: [computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Boon
Strange. I even tried downloading a new file from the web-page. I get the following: could not execute couldn't open socket: connection refused logout [Process completed] I used to be able to run it, I'm not aware of changing anything on my side. Did the port change? Or the address? Mark

Re: [computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
No, nothing changed. It just now restarted, so try it again. Please note that the viewer is pretty sluggish - it pops up quickly but then take a good little while to list the games. But it should not give you a connection error unless the server is off-line. - Don Mark Boon wrote:

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Boon
Thanks for the pointer Don, that might be worth looking into at some point. When you say 'amazing accuracy despite this speed and simplicity' I still have to ask: how fast?. I think 10usec is actually pretty fast. But when talking about using it during MC playouts for example, it's still

Re: [computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Boon
OK, I look at the web-site and it says the server is cgos.boardspace.net -port 6867. When I telnet to it it's available. The TCL script I have says cgos.lri.fr port 6919. When I telnet to this one it's not available. The TCL script I can modify, but the viewer is a binary I believe. So

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Moi de Quoi
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:08 -0300, Mark Boon wrote: Lately I have been putting some effort into pattern-matching. Although I have made progress, the result was not as good as what I had hoped for by about an order of magnitude. This makes me wonder what is currently actually the state of

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
The speed is based on how many attributes in the item you wish to classify as well as how many classes. The complexity of classifying something is O(kn) where k is number of classes and n the number of attributes. If your patterns are more than just the trivial [black, white, empty, edge]

Re: [computer-go] CGOS?

2008-03-26 Thread Don Dailey
Mark Boon wrote: OK, I look at the web-site and it says the server is cgos.boardspace.net -port 6867. When I telnet to it it's available. The TCL script I have says cgos.lri.fr port 6919. When I telnet to this one it's not available. The TCL script I can modify, but the viewer is a

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
My computer-go player is a single pattern system. It linearises patterns and stores them in a very large suffix tree. At each node in the tree counts are kept of the number of times the node has been played or not played. http://code.google.com/p/jgogears/ It's currently at the stage where it

Re: [computer-go] State of the art of pattern matching

2008-03-26 Thread Gunnar Farnebäck
Mark Boon wrote: Lately I have been putting some effort into pattern-matching. Although I have made progress, the result was not as good as what I had hoped for by about an order of magnitude. This makes me wonder what is currently actually the state of the art of pattern matching in Go. Of

RE: [computer-go] Ing Challenge

2008-03-26 Thread David Fotland
You are right. Well, I did compete for this prize about 15 times, so I hope so :) David Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/