Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Mathematical Go

2009-11-29 Thread Olivier Teytaud
You can see and hear Elwyn Berlekamp delivering a 2006 talk about Mathematics and Go (culminating in a discussion of coupon go) at: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=005B561126D6A51E . Thanks a lot for pointing out this very interesting video. Seemingly, the nice historical

Re: [computer-go] territory scoring rules

2009-11-29 Thread Willemien
Thanks, I looked at http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/j2003 and its commentary http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/j2003com.html and found the rules confusing. to start the terms capturable-1 2 and 3 are confusing. a string that is capturable-1 or 2 is ALIVE. while capturable has the connotation of being

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread Ian Osgood
Thanks for the early report! (I was sorry not to see Fudo Go in the tournament. Were you involved with any of the other teams?) Here are the second day knockout tournament unofficial results. Any mistakes are my own. Thanks to the organizers for the live screencast! 1 KCC Igo 2

RE: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread David Fotland
I watched the pro matches. It looked like a 4 dan beat Zen with 6 stones, and a 9 dan beat KCC with 6 stones. David -Original Message- From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Ian Osgood Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:16

Re: [computer-go] territory scoring rules

2009-11-29 Thread Robert Jasiek
Willemien wrote: I was thinking of implementing the new japanese rules http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/naj.html instead . But are they the easiest to implement territory rules? What do you want? 1) The closest to real world Japanese rulesets? Use the Japanese 2003 Rules plus some game end

Re: [computer-go] Mathematical Go

2009-11-29 Thread Robert Jasiek
compgo...@aol.com wrote: It's the only pulication on Go that qualify as science. There are even several Go books that qualify as mathematics. Not to mention hundreds or thousands of files or news messages. In fact, I consider quite some by myself to be science. So I find it funny that you

Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread Olivier Teytaud
Wow! This is quite surprising to me: 1 KCC Igo 2 Katsunari 3 Zen 4 Shikousakugo 5 Many Faces of Go 6 Erica 7 Kiseki 8 Galileo (upset Crazy Stone, due to a Chinese/Japanese rules mismatch) 9 Crazy Stone 10 Aya There are so many programs stronger than Zen, ManyFaces, CrazyStone and

RE: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread David Fotland
I think it was a single elimination, not a swiss tournament, and I think many of the strong programs were in the same bracket. I think Many Faces lost to KCC in an early round and wasn't paired against the other strong programs. We'll have to wait for the full results to check. David

Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread Ian Osgood
Yes, single elimination, so only the top spot is reliable. The Crazy Stone upset definitely changed the character of the final match. Here are the main brackets (again, any mistakes are my own): KCC Igo + Aya Many Faces + boon Zen + Kerberos Erica + Kinoa Igo Katsunari + rock Kiseki +

[computer-go] Re: Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread Hideki Kato
Official results of the second day: KCC Igo 1 Katsunari 2 Zen 3 Shikosakugo 4 Many Faces of Go5 Erica 6 Kiseki 7 Galileo 8 Crazy Stone 9 Aya 10 GOGATAKI11 Rock12 Nomitan 13 Kinoa Igo

[computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread Hideki Kato
Official results of the second day: KCC Igo 1 Katsunari 2 Zen 3 Shikosakugo 4 Many Faces of Go5 Erica 6 Kiseki 7 Galileo 8 Crazy Stone 9 Aya 10 GOGATAKI11 Rock12 Nomitan 13 Kinoa Igo 14 boon15

Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread 村松正和
David, MFG lost by KCC at the second stage of the tournament, and then won against Gallileo and Erica, obtaining the fifth position. I admit that the most of the strong programs such as KCC, Aya, MFG, Zen are assigned to the same right group, eliminating each other, and in the left group,

RE: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-11-29 Thread David Fotland
I'd like to thank all of the people who organized the UEC tournament for providing machines and operators to allow Many Faces and others to participate. I'd like to suggest that the UEC organizers consider using a Swiss tournament system in the future since it gives a more accurate assessment of