Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Willemien
What happened exactly? a superko violation which was legal under Japanese rules ? It sounds like a contradiction. (if it is legal it is no violation and if it is a violation it is not legal) Are the games published? On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Stefan Kaitschick

Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Hideki Kato
Willemien: db9a9ab30912010218g51054604l17ccf4626c162...@mail.gmail.com: What happened exactly? a superko violation which was legal under Japanese rules ? Yes. Jpanese rules inhibit just a simple ko. If a move is not a ko but a superko move, that move is legal under Japanese rules. It sounds

Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
I guess your right. It's just that the innocent side losing on the spot rubs it in. Accepting any move surely has to be a bot vs.bot mode. Against a human opponent the bot can't very well accept suicide or immediate ko takeback. Stefan - Original Message - From: Mark Boon

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Rémi Coulom
David Fotland wrote: I'd like to thank all of the people who organized the UEC tournament for providing machines and operators to allow Many Faces and others to participate. I'd like to suggest that the UEC organizers consider using a Swiss tournament system in the future since it gives a more

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Elvire Scheibling
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Rémi Coulom remi.cou...@univ-lille3.frwrote: I like the direct-elimination system, because it determines a clear winner in a deterministic number of rounds. I don't like the KGS system, where the winner is determined by SOS. Note that the KGS system provides

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Rémi Coulom
Elvire Scheibling wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Rémi Coulom remi.cou...@univ-lille3.frwrote: I like the direct-elimination system, because it determines a clear winner in a deterministic number of rounds. I don't like the KGS system, where the winner is determined by SOS. Note

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Stefan Kaitschick
Another option would be double elimination. Drawbacks are that you first need to trim the field down to 16 contestants, and that it takes more rounds than single elimination. (aka ko) The advantage is that it retains the ko characteristic of everybody still in it can win it while lessening the

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread Aja
- Original Message - From: Rémi Coulom remi.cou...@univ-lille3.fr To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup David Fotland wrote: I'd like to thank all of the people who organized the

Re: [computer-go] Live broadcasting at UEC Cup

2009-12-01 Thread 村松正和
Hi, Thanks for expressing your gratitude to the UEC Cup. That makes us forget hard work for preparation, and proceed to the next UEC Cup. On the tournament system, Aja explained it well instead of us; we planned the system similar to the professional players' tournaments. In this system, the