RE: [computer-go] [ANNOUNCE] BitmapGo mockup version 2.0 (for MS Visual C++ and g++)

2009-12-08 Thread Denis fidaali
In (at least) some implementation, it is far easier to check for captures than to check for atari. It sounds very close to what you do, the difference being. has the group exactly 1 liberty ?. (atari) has the group exactly 0 liberty ? / at least 1 liberty The later is faster. - it is

Re: [computer-go] Fuego parameter question

2009-12-08 Thread Nick Wedd
In message bea3a7fa-bcaf-49dc-939b-e45667802...@cs.ualberta.ca, Martin Mueller mmuel...@cs.ualberta.ca writes You use the current developers version svn985. Use the stable version fuego 0.4 instead. The performance (winning rate) on KGS of the current svn985 is much worse than the 0.4

Re: [computer-go] KCC won the 3rd UEC Cup

2009-12-08 Thread Nick Wedd
In message 4b19af5b.462%hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp, Hideki Kato hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp writes Nick Wedd: 5earkjc29mflf...@maproom.demon.co.uk: Many thanks to Hideki Kato for providing the results of the UEC Cup. For those who cannot read Japanese, this is invaluable. I wonder if anyone knows what

[computer-go] Kinds of Zobrist hashes

2009-12-08 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! In most papers I've read, three-valued Zobrist hashes are used - per intersection, values for empty, black and white coloring [1]. I'm not clear on why is the empty value needed, however, shouldn't only black, white values work just fine? Is the hash behaving better with extra values for

Re: [computer-go] Kinds of Zobrist hashes

2009-12-08 Thread Don Dailey
The empty value is not needed. In some games it's easier to have it because it can be a simplification - everything handled uniformly for instance and it can avoid a conditional branch but I don't think that is an issue with Go. - Don On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz

Re: [computer-go] Kinds of Zobrist hashes

2009-12-08 Thread Eric Boesch
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz wrote:  Hi!  In most papers I've read, three-valued Zobrist hashes are used - per intersection, values for empty, black and white coloring [1]. I'm not clear on why is the empty value needed, however, shouldn't only black, white values

RE: [computer-go] Kinds of Zobrist hashes

2009-12-08 Thread David Fotland
I use two values. I never even occurred to me to use three. David -Original Message- From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Petr Baudis Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:50 PM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: