My impression was that you can only get the status of a ranked bot if it’s
somehow “stable”. So that would mean that I would have to have a new
account for each new version of the bot, wouldn’t it? Especially with early
stage bots like mine the jumps in strength can be quite large. But on the
other
We are waiting for the superadmin to set LeelaBot's status to Rated. She
has not been active recently, maybe she is on vacation.
Nick
On 9 May 2016 at 23:14, Erik van der Werf wrote:
> Oh that's silly! IIRC if your bot is not ranked than users can do all kind
> of cheating in the scoring pha
Oh that's silly! IIRC if your bot is not ranked than users can do all kind
of cheating in the scoring phase (e.g., mark all your living stones dead).
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:07 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
> On 10/05/2016 0:01, Erik van der Werf wrote:
> > Well then why not make that a crit
On 10/05/2016 0:01, Erik van der Werf wrote:
> Well then why not make that a criterion for entering the tournament? For
> any half-decent bot it shouldn't be hard to get a rating.
FWIW I requested ranked status for LeelaBot 3 weeks ago and this was not
granted.
Technically I'm not sure if this is
Well then why not make that a criterion for entering the tournament? For
any half-decent bot it shouldn't be hard to get a rating.
Any idea what happens for unrated bots? Do they end up somewhere at the
bottom, or are they rejected?
Erik
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Nick Wedd wrote:
> A pr
On 9/05/2016 23:16, Erik van der Werf wrote:
> Why not McMahon? (possibly with reduced handicap). It works fine in
> human Go tournaments.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?McMahon
How does this work? That page doesn't mention handicaps. Indeed, the
idea seems to be to eliminate large strength disparities
A problem with McMahon is that the bots would all need KGS ratings. I
can't assign ratings myself, the scheduler uses the ratings assigned by
KGS. In the five tournaments held so far this year, there are sixteen bots
that have competed at least once: eight have been rated, eight not.
Nick
On 9
Another matter is that, in case of MCTS programs, encouraging them
to play well in handicap games was a troublesome point. This cuts both
ways (may discourage participation, or encourage implementation of
better handling of handicap games).
A possible strategy would be:
- Require ranked pr
Why not McMahon? (possibly with reduced handicap). It works fine in human
Go tournaments.
IMO KGS Swiss is pretty boring for most of the time, and the scheduler
often seems to have a lot of undesired influence on the final ranking. Also
at this point I'm really not that interested any more to see
Hi Gian-Carlo,
I have thought carefully about your question on
determinning handicaps properly.
It seems you are very right with your doubts
> The first obvious question is then: how will you determine the handicaps?
A naive approach would be to take the KGS ranks of the bots.
But even for those
I'm not sure what options are available for tournament setup, but assuming
we can enter skill levels manually...
I think it would be hard to pick perfect ratings, but I bet it wouldn't be
too difficult to generate a guess at ELO/kyu levels based on past
performance. Inputting something like ELO/2
On May 9, 2016 10:38 AM, "Urban Hafner" wrote:
>
>Also, you give me too much credit. I’m not the primary author of HouseBot,
that is Jason House. I was merely a co-author/contributor.
>
> Urban
I didn't even notice that in the report! I'm not too worried about credit
for my weak bot :)
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On 09-05-16 16:04, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote:
> Another point for discussion:
> Although there were only six participants they split in
> at least 4 classes, seperated by large gaps in strength:
> Zen >> abakus, HiraBot >> LeelaBot >> Imrsel, matilda
> Perhaps it makes really sense to think about a tou
Thanks for organising this Nick!
Even though Iomrascálaí came second to last it was very useful as I could
figure out how to make it play on KGS. :) And like Ingo already said, it
played against abakus in the second round. Also, you give me too much
credit. I’m not the primary author of HouseBot,
Hi Nick,
thanks for organizing the tournament and also for the
report. I found one small inconsistency:
You write that Imrsel had connection problems in
round 2 against matilda. But in round 2, imrsel had
been paired with abakus, according to the table.
Anot
Congratulations to Xen19X, winner of yesterday's KGS bot tournament, with
12 wins from 12 games!
My report is at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/122/index.html
As always, I will welcome your comments and corrections.
Nick
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