[computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:06:40PM +0200, Tapani Raiko wrote: Let my try again using the handicap example. Let's say MC player is given a huge handicap. In the simulations, it is winning all of its games, so there is no information helping to select the next move. This situation happens in

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread dhillismail
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 5:34 AM Subject: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)) On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:06:40PM +0200, Tapani Raiko wrote: Let my try again using

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread dhillismail
I should have mentioned that I have only tested on 9x9. For larger boards, I don't know. - Dave Hillis ` Intuitively, it seems like this should work. You only give the winning margin a small weight, or only use it to break ties, or only apply it after the game

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread terry mcintyre
If I recall correctly, someone spoke of constraining the opening moves to the 3rd,4th,and 5th lines in the absence of nearby stones, or something to that effect. What was the impact of this experiment? I notice the recent discussion of the need for a lot of thinking time to find good opening

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread terry mcintyre
What sort of sampling was used for the playouts? For this variable ( incorporating some information about the score vs only the win-loss variable ), does it make a difference whether playouts are totally random or incorporate varying degrees of similitude to good play? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread Richard J. Lorentz
terry mcintyre wrote: If I recall correctly, someone spoke of constraining the opening moves to the 3rd,4th,and 5th lines in the absence of nearby stones, or something to that effect. What was the impact of this experiment? For what it's worth, I tried a number of experiments along these

Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC))

2007-02-07 Thread dhillismail
Subject: Re: [computer-go] MC approach (was: Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)) What sort of sampling was used for the playouts? For this variable ( incorporating some information about the score vs only the win-loss variable ), does it make a difference whether playouts are totally