Re: [computer-go] Who else uses Hashtables in UCT?

2007-07-11 Thread Hideki Kato
Dear Chrilly, http://trac.gnugo.org/gnugo/attachment/ticket/150/MonteGNU.diff is the diff file from GNU Go, I guess. You can download original diff file from the bottom of the page. -gg chrilly: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chrilly wrote: I have no finished a plain vanilla 9x9 Suzie-UCT Version. The

Re: [computer-go] Explanation to MoGo paper wanted.

2007-07-11 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Hi, Don I can find arguments to disagree. I think what makes humans homo sapiens is reasoning, not the ability to compute numerical simulations. As a human (I am one) I feel disappointed when the explanation I get for a best move is after x millions of simulated matches it proved to be the

Re: [computer-go] UCT caveat (was in Explanation to MoGo paper wanted)

2007-07-11 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Brian Slesinsky wrote : When you favor defense (or attack) you may think: This is unbiased since some times it favors black and other times it favors white But the fact is when black is in danger at the root of the tree, it is in danger in most of the tree, therefore the trick gets the

Re: [computer-go] Go programming as a profession.

2007-07-11 Thread Chris Fant
On 7/11/07, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really know a place hiring over 30k US? :) that doesn't require moving to California lol Sure. You just have to have professional experience. Without that, you must be coming straight out of a 4-year degree. If you have been only hobby

Re: [computer-go] Explanation to MoGo paper wanted.

2007-07-11 Thread Don Dailey
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 11:47 +0100, Jacques Basaldúa wrote: What you call a dirty hack, patterns deeply implemented in their brains. What you call a dirty hack, patterns deeply implemented in their brains. The dirty hack I'm referring to is the robotic way this is implemented in programs, not

Re: [computer-go] Who else uses Hashtables in UCT?

2007-07-11 Thread Benjamin Teuber
I guess once superko really matters for programs, this paper might become interesting for us: http://www.fun.ac.jp/~kishi/pdf_file/AAAI04KishimotoA.pdf Regards, Benjamin I use the simple ko position as part of the hash key, and generally ignore positional superko and situational superko when

Re: [computer-go] Go programming as a profession.

2007-07-11 Thread Joshua Shriver
I have been a programmer for about 11 years professionally. Though I dont have a degree, dropped out my senior year due to the horrible cost of tuition and materials. -Josh On 7/11/07, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/07, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really know a place

Re: [computer-go] Explanation to MoGo paper wanted.

2007-07-11 Thread Richard Brown
On 7/11/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dirty hack I'm referring to is the robotic way this is implemented in programs, not how it's done in humans. With a pattern based program you essentially specify everything and the program is not a participant in the process. It comes down

Re: [computer-go] Go programming as a profession.

2007-07-11 Thread Joshua Shriver
Are there different versions of Igo? KCC Igo, AI Igo? If so is Igo and open source engine that is being used as a base for others? Congrats though! -Josh On 7/11/07, David Fotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list price in Japan is closer to $100 than $39. This is my Japanese product (AI Igo

Re: [computer-go] UCT caveat (was in Explanation to MoGo paper wanted)

2007-07-11 Thread Brian Slesinsky
On 7/11/07, Jacques Basaldúa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to explain it better: E.g. The game is in a position where black is in danger. That position is the root node. All stones in the root node are inherited in any node below, except when they are captured. Your trick pretends to

Re: [computer-go] Explanation to MoGo paper wanted.

2007-07-11 Thread Joshua Shriver
Perhaps some day a mad Dr. Frankenstein will implement massively parallel supercomputing using an array of brains in petri dishes. But it will still be the meat that is intelligent. It's the only substance capable of that. I read an article several months back where a researcher used mice

Re: [computer-go] Explanation to MoGo paper wanted.

2007-07-11 Thread Don Dailey
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 09:06 -0500, Richard Brown wrote: I'm compelled to point out that neural nets, _trained_ on patterns, which patterns themselves are then discarded, have the ability to recognize novel patterns, ones which have never been previously seen, let alone stored. The list of

[computer-go] Interesting Test Position (for UCT)

2007-07-11 Thread chrilly
Attached is an interesting testposition which occured in UCT-Suzie against Peter-Woitke. If black plays 37 c4 the game is lost by 0.5 points. If Black passes, white gets a lot of threats. Black can choose between a safe loss, or some risk and a win. UCT-Suzie and the public domain version of

Re: [computer-go] Interesting Test Position (for UCT)

2007-07-11 Thread Don Dailey
Why not put both version on CGOS and find out? - Don On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 23:17 +0200, chrilly wrote: Attached is an interesting testposition which occured in UCT-Suzie against Peter-Woitke. If black plays 37 c4 the game is lost by 0.5 points. If Black passes, white gets a lot of threats.

Re: [computer-go] Interesting Test Position (for UCT)

2007-07-11 Thread Gunnar Farneb�ck
Chrilly wrote: Attached is an interesting testposition which occured in UCT-Suzie against Peter-Woitke. If black plays 37 c4 the game is lost by 0.5 points. If Black passes, white gets a lot of threats. Black can choose between a safe loss, or some risk and a win. UCT-Suzie and the public

Re: [computer-go] Interesting Test Position (for UCT)

2007-07-11 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 7/11/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is an interesting testposition which occured in UCT-Suzie against Peter-Woitke. If black plays 37 c4 the game is lost by 0.5 points. If Black passes, white gets a lot of threats. Black can choose between a safe loss, or some risk and a win.