Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
Was there a point here Tom? The need is real - the serial port is just a tool required to work with these devices. On Nov 7, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Many, many enterprise telco devices, servers, and storage devices require serial console access, at least initially during first

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA)
No, my comments were more along the lines of buying another plotter (and computer) with a serial interface. If your existing plotter does the job for you, by all means keep it. But you know you need to plan for the day when it turns to obsolete junk once that serial interface dies. Fifteen

[CGUYS] iMac problem

2007-11-07 Thread Jordan Fairman
I have a hard drive with a clone of an iMac's drive made with Carbon Copy cloner. I'd like to install that clone on another iMac. Is there a simple way to do this or do I have to go folder by folder, copying files over. I usually just do some research and/or just dive in and figure it out as I

[CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's why we make fun of Rip Van Winkle the IT manager. Was there a point here Tom? The need is real - the serial port is just a tool required to work with these devices. Cisco, Nortel, Juniper, Sun, IBM... Looking at the list of problem vendors reinforces my point. IMHO none of these

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Rigby
On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote: Computers configured with serial ports and floppy drives are like getting an eight track tape or cassette tape with the documentation on it. USB can and will replace serial port. Buying computers with obsolete technology is ridiculous.

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Wright
These serial interfaces are usually require a null modem serial cable too. Maybe you could do that with USB, who knows. Last year, I thought about getting our latest batch of Dell PCs without floppies, but I'm glad I didn't. These Optiplex PCs used SATA optical drives and the latest version of

[CGUYS] mac mini help

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Meyer
My 4yr old was banging on the keyboard and now all the color schemes are messed up, the color setting in System Preference don't indicate the right colors. A restart hasn't fixed it. Running Tiger. -Paul Meyer Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org - Original Message From:

Re: [CGUYS] cloning iMac drive

2007-11-07 Thread Phil Marchetti
Gerald, I'd say to get an external FireWire hard drive either 400 or 800MHz transfer speed. Forget the USB drives that you have as backup drives for your Mac, use FW. Use the USB drives for other things. I have not had a chance to evaluate Time Machine that comes with OS 10.5 So, I'd say...

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Matthew Taylor
My God, you must be right! Who in their right mind would by Cisco or Nortel telcom equipment, or Sun, IBM, or HP enterprise servers and SANs! The horror, the folly! Or, just maybe so many backbone companies have a reason? On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] mac mini help

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
My 4yr old was banging on the keyboard and now all the color schemes are messed up, the color setting in System Preference don't indicate the right colors. A restart hasn't fixed it. Running Tiger. Toss your com.apple.systempreferences.plist

[CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
No, my comments were more along the lines of buying another plotter (and computer) with a serial interface. If your existing plotter does the job for you, by all means keep it. Plotters themselves are Rip Van Winkle technology. Most have been replaced with ink jet printers that cost a heck of

Re: [CGUYS] cloning iMac drive

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have not had a chance to evaluate Time Machine that comes with OS 10.5 So, I'd say... Get software called SuperDuper, set the schedule for Time Machine and SuperDuper do very different things. For a personal computer, I think Time Machine is going to be a lot more useful, but I can see

Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have a hard drive with a clone of an iMac's drive made with Carbon Copy cloner. I'd like to install that clone on another iMac. Is there a simple way to do this or do I have to go folder by folder, copying files over. Use Migration Assistant.

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA)
Computers configured with serial ports and floppy drives are like getting an eight track tape or cassette tape with the documentation on it. USB can and will replace serial port. Buying computers with obsolete technology is ridiculous. Depending on peripherals that require it (for servers, no

Re: [CGUYS] cloning iMac drive

2007-11-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
If you want a look inside an older iMac look here. http://home.comcast.net/~woojo/DFFA53A0-F23D-4541-9015-481FD3B6532E/iMac_Disassembly.html I agree with Tom it isn't worth opening the case for this. Buy a firewire hard drive enclosure and just mount a hard drive in that. You can easily pull a

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Admiral Harris
Hey! Fifty year old women like fifty year old guys. Maybe not bald. And no white socks. And no skinny ties. Or pocket protectors. Okay, we like fifty year old George Clooneys. Never mind. Sincerely, One who knows. Something. - Original Message - From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread mike
I always print out my 4 x 6 foot posters on my inkjet. Mike On Nov 8, 2007 12:25 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, my comments were more along the lines of buying another plotter (and computer) with a serial interface. If your existing plotter does the job for you, by all means

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I always print out my 4 x 6 foot posters on my inkjet. You probably think you are being a wise guy, but that is precisely the case. I have clients printing posters that are 64 inches wide and using multiple strips for larger displays.

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Rigby
On Nov 8, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Plotters themselves are Rip Van Winkle technology. Most have been replaced with ink jet printers that cost a heck of a lot less. About the only application that still requires a plotter is a vinyl cutter. Voila. That is exactly what my

Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem

2007-11-07 Thread Jordan Fairman
This is very weird. The email I posted, which you are responding to, has not been delivered to my mail client, and you are responding tomorrow! I did not see a way to use Migration assistant from a drive that is not in another Mac. Do I just plug the drive into the target Mac and access it

Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem

2007-11-07 Thread Jordan Fairman
I see what you mean now. Thanks Tom Piwowar wrote: I have a hard drive with a clone of an iMac's drive made with Carbon Copy cloner. I'd like to install that clone on another iMac. Is there a simple way to do this or do I have to go folder by folder, copying files over. Use Migration

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Somehow I already knew that was the case. Probably have a parallel port too. Maybe, I haven't needed to check lately, but I do still have centronic cables laying around. I still use a couple HP LaserJet 4 and 5's in low volume areas, which won't die. They're networked, but they could run off

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Reading problem? 64 is more than twice 30. No. Do you have a writing problem? I always print out my 4 x 6 foot posters on my inkjet. You probably think you are being a wise guy, but that is precisely the case. I have clients printing posters that are 64 inches wide and using multiple strips

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have clients printing posters that are 64 inches wide and using multiple strips for larger displays. Tom must be getting kickbacks from the scotch tape sales guys. Instead, I bought them a 30 DesignJet, instead of seeing their problem as another nail to hammer down. Oddly, they're happy with

[CGUYS] cloning iMac drive

2007-11-07 Thread Harvey Simon
Tom, Could you explain the scenario you have in mind where both might be useful? Thanks. -- Forwarded Message From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:29:32 -0500 Subject: Re: cloning iMac drive I have not had a chance to evaluate Time Machine that comes with OS 10.5

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
Voila. That is exactly what my plotter/cutter does. You are one in a million, Steve. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == *

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Wright
I have computers with serial ports AND floppies. For some odd reason, they haven't yet burst into flames and they continue to work normally. I didn't buy them to be fashion statements either, so maybe that's the problem. -Original Message- I have a serial device I use from time to

Re: [CGUYS] Computer Clock settings (was [CGUYS] iMac problem)

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
Hey Tom, seeing as you are so far into the future, can you give us some stock tips or maybe some of tomorrows headlines? ;-) Right now I'm trying to convince our dear retro members to stop using serial ports and floppies. I expect my next crusade will concern parallel ports. I think it will be

Re: [CGUYS] iMac problem

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I did not see a way to use Migration assistant from a drive that is not in another Mac. Do I just plug the drive into the target Mac and access it that way somehow? Yes. One of the options is From another drive on this Mac.

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Robert
Tom Piwowar wrote: My God, you must be right! Who in their right mind would by Cisco or Nortel telcom equipment, or Sun, IBM, or HP enterprise servers and SANs! The horror, the folly! Fifty year old bald guys wearing white socks, skinny ties, and pocket protectors. Oh, my! How

Re: [CGUYS] cloning iMac drive

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
Could you explain the scenario you have in mind where both might be useful? Backup the full drive to quickly swap out a failed drive. Use Time Machine to recover files in between full backups and to recover from accidents.

Re: [CGUYS] Looking for notebooks actual web link for laptops with serial port.

2007-11-07 Thread mike
http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=uscs=04l=ens=bsd Hit the port tab and you'll get the Dell laptops with which ports. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in ==

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have a serial device I use from time to time. My serial port is all the way around back of my dell desktop. I bought a usb-serial dongle for $7.00 and I plug it in conveniently in front when I need it. This works fine for my notebook too (which does have a serial port-IBM thinkpad x31) which

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Tom must be getting kickbacks from the scotch tape sales guys. I think I'd get some funny looks if I asked my AutoCAD people to just work with the $75 Deskjets and figure out the rest. In fact, I think I'd find the tires on my car flattened if I did. Instead, I bought them a 30 DesignJet,

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks]

2007-11-07 Thread mike
Boggles the mind they get anything even done! Mike On Nov 7, 2007 7:10 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead, I bought them a 30 DesignJet, instead of seeing their problem as another nail to hammer down. Oddly, they're happy with that.

Re: [CGUYS] Rip Van Winkle [Was: Looking for notebooks

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have computers with serial ports AND floppies. Somehow I already knew that was the case. Probably have a parallel port too. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an