Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Constance Warner
As a pedestrian in the Washington, D.C. area, I'm in favor of anything that will improve my odds of survival, even by just a few percentage points. If windshield-mounted GPS units and similar devices make it more likely for pedestrians to get mowed down by vehicles, then I think that

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Chris, The original link (from Tom), starts by summing up and linking to the CNET review. The CNET review also starts off with I'll admit right off the bat that I've been a pretty big fan of the Zune. I would say that the real question is Can the Zune HD catch up with the iPod Touch

[CGUYS] YM signing onto another device

2009-08-07 Thread One Man
Several days recently while using ym I get a message that says ym is closing because I've signed onto another device/computer.  I've not signed onto another device/computer and because I imagine? someone is trying to phish? me, I change the p/w.  Should I be concerned?  And what should I do?  

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
And his answer was no. He freely admits it will never catch up to the Touch. I think most everyone will agree Apple got a grand slam homer with the touch. But that does not mean others are not playing ball and doing well. Just not as well. Stewart At 07:27 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There is just as much distraction by co-drivers and back seat drivers. I constantly have to remind my wife to let me do the driving so I can keep my eyes on all hazards and traffic, instead of the one she just saw. Stewart At 01:12 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: As a pedestrian in the Washington,

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Jordan
For maybe 20 years I've been putting Beltronics remote radar detectors in my cars. Crutchfield used to sell them. I don't know if they still do. But the receiver was mounted behind the car grill and a tiny unit is mounted inside the car, preferably out of site. Nothing blocking the view.

Re: [CGUYS] YM signing onto another device

2009-08-07 Thread Tony B
I think first you may have to tell us what 'ym' is. Yahoo Messenger? If so, and your account has been hacked, you won't be able to change the password. Have you searched in their help forums? On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, One Manone911...@yahoo.com wrote: Several days recently while using ym

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread C Ballinger
Valentine One has the same. Elegant is the word. cb via iphone. _ On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:23, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: For maybe 20 years I've been putting Beltronics remote radar detectors in my cars. Crutchfield used to sell them. I don't know if they still do.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Robert Carroll
Constance Warner wrote: As a pedestrian in the Washington, D.C. area, I'm in favor of anything that will improve my odds of survival, even by just a few percentage points. If windshield-mounted GPS units and similar devices make it more likely for pedestrians to get mowed down by vehicles,

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread b_s-wilk
I don't use GPS. I use a compass and map--not while I'm driving, usually. They don't talk, however some GPS units do, so you don't have to look at them. I have E-Z Pass as well as a bar code decal for the Susquehanna bridge on US 40. The E-Z Pass instructions show the pass attached to the

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread mike
I've been looking around online for an answer to this and it seems to be hit and miss. Does Verizon lock down GPS in their phones and force you to use their ten dollar service if you want GPS? I know Verizon has a history of doing such things, this will be a deal breaker if so, looks like sprint

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I recognize that sentiment. (It helped if I told her to turn the map around or to turn it in the direction we were going!) Stewart At 10:43 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: Once upon a time I used road maps and map books too. Or rather, I drove while wife attempted to read a map. She doesn't read

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
YES! Stewart At 11:22 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: I've been looking around online for an answer to this and it seems to be hit and miss. Does Verizon lock down GPS in their phones and force you to use their ten dollar service if you want GPS? I know Verizon has a history of doing such things,

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
MY Q9C has GPS but I have to buy a card plug in to make what I have work. Plus the software., Verizon is real good about dictating what you can and cannot do with your phones. Stewart At 11:27 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: YES! Stewart At 11:22 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote: I've been looking

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread mike
I saw msgs on the net about verizon having some phones with unlocked gps and others with locked gps so it was only good with verizon navigator and an extra ten bux a month. Looks like my choices are going to be down to the android hero or pre on sprint. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Rev.

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If sprint works for you go for it. The only reason I am hooked on Verizon is they are the only ones with good coverage down here. In some areas another carrier has as good or better coverage. You must take that into account. Stewart At 12:17 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote: I saw msgs on the net

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread b_s-wilk
Mark A. Metz mam...@aol.com escribió: Thanks for the link to the article on the DC Bus iPhone app (Cavan any relation?). I use the Fairfax Connector so it doesn't help for me, but I'm sure it is advantageous for some. I used the commuterpages with my WM phone (free), but it doesn't seem to

Re: [CGUYS] YM signing onto another device

2009-08-07 Thread One Man
Yahoo Messenger Yes, I can change the p/w, as I wrote in the original post --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] YM signing onto another device To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:56 AM I think

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I think most everyone will agree Apple got a grand slam homer with the touch. But that does not mean others are not playing ball and doing well. Just not as well. The Zune HD is targeted at WFBs who will gladly part with their

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread Chris Dunford
The Zune HD is targeted at WFBs who will gladly part with their money to buy a vastly inferior product for the sole reason of it not being an iPod. Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread mike
It can be fairly said MS was late to the party to be sure, but come they have and ready to roll. The zune's audio processor is considered to be superior to the ipods, it's interface is at worst just fine. What is there to complain about except the lateness issue? There is talk on the blogs

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread Mark A. Metz
If you have a choice, get a better scanner with real drivers. HP has awful drivers. If you can find a generic open source driver that works, use it. That's funny. I heard that same retort almost verbatim from someone before, a Mac person by the way. I'll take the Professional Mode scanner

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I agree with you. I have three HP's and two Epsons with scanners on them (All in ones) and I much prefer the output I get from the Epsons than the HP's I scan in a lot of Hymnal pages and the scans from the Epson look so much better. Stewart At 07:23 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote: That's funny.

Re: [CGUYS] YM signing onto another device

2009-08-07 Thread Tony B
You forgot to answer the second part of my response. To assist, I have done some searching for you at Yahoo's Help site and perhaps this one will help: How do I keep Yahoo Messenger from signing out by itself? It will say you have signed onto another device.? It will say I have signed in or out

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread MrMike6by9
ATT has their own paid nav system for WM phones but when I was using my Q9h, I used Google Maps or Live Search since they both can use the phone's GPS chip. The only thing missing was turn-by-turn that would update automatically like the iPhone or a dedicated unit. I had to do manual updates for

Re: [CGUYS] big decisions VERIZON question

2009-08-07 Thread mike
I'll use google maps most likely, I'm not in that big of need for turn by turn, just something to let me know where I need to be. I probably won't use GPS that much, but the fact that verizon locks you out unless you pay extra just gets under my skin. And really..I wasn't too keen on going back

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Constance Warner wrote: The fact that people engage in a lot of other risky behavior in cars, with or without computerized components, is no argument in favor of allowing windshield-mounted GPS units. They're a distraction, however slight, and the difference

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks. You birthers are all the same. M$ has published the specs. Do you really think touching one is going to release some magical

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread Eric S. Sande
Today the radical right announced a move to allow gun carry in DC. This would allow the driver to fire off a few warning rounds to discourage you from blocking their right of way. No word on where gun racks would be allowed in cars. You really want to debate this? I somehow thought you

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Maybe, just maybe, I respect the idea that you know better about your business needs than I do and don't deign to look down my nose at your choices and question your intelligence. Too bad that courtesy isn't a 2-way street with the Mac

[CGUYS] HP Drivers Nuts Time Machine Madness [Was: Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat]

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Mark A. Metz wrote: I have a HP Scanjet 8250 (USB) sitting next to my MBP 15 that I can't use while booted in Leopard. I spent considerably more time than half an hour testing HP drivers, bonjour, generic printers, etc. only to discover it wasn't going to work

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, mike wrote: It can be fairly said MS was late to the party to be sure, but... What is there to complain about except the lateness issue? I'm sure that when M$ slaps their logo on a Victrolla you will be praising it as a fantastic green machine that produces

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Mark A. Metz wrote: I guess my point is that if the intention of the listserv is to provide computer users a forum for asking questions, like the Computer Guys and Gal show, then novices exposed to heated platform discussions to the point of expletives might not

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I have three HP's and two Epsons with scanners on them (All in ones) and I much prefer the output I get from the Epsons than the HP's Epson scanners are probably the best made today. Alas, the market for scanners keeps shrinking.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

2009-08-07 Thread t.piwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: If you want to debate the Second Amendment, I suggest that there are more appropriate forums. By order of the Supreme: Misinterpretations of the second amendment are off topic. Auto safety is marginally on topic. Autos festooned with