Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
One of the problems I see with the tech writers on the net, especially, is lack of disclosure/honesty. Some of these Bozos own stock or are otherwise blatant shills for the companies they write about. It has been a real problem since the tech press began writing and seems to have grown. I am

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Dunford
This is a problem with every news site.  Check NYT or LATIMES or any other news paper. Agreed. I see this all the time. Fox Nation is a serial headline-abuser. In their case it appears to be intentional. Nobody could be THAT bad at the summarizing an article's content in a few words,

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, please. He said it has the same legal status AS a religion (or a philosophy). He didn't say that it IS a religion (or a philosophy). Someone tell me this wasn't intentional. I saw a headline yesterday on an online

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
This has been going on for over 30 years. My brother was involved in an incident 30+ years ago where he and his friends got attacked. Newspaper headline next day, Gang fight erupts in south Shreveport. Stewart At 06:53 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Chris

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Steve at Verizon
While we are griping here, let me add the gripe of lack of or poor punctuation. A comma after Chimp would have fully clarified the headline. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, please. He said it has the same legal status

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread mike
Says more about global warming than Fox Nation. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: This is a problem with every news site. Check NYT or LATIMES or any other news paper. Agreed. I see this all the time. Fox Nation is a serial headline-abuser.

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread b_s-wilk
Oh, please. He said it has the same legal status AS a religion (or a philosophy). He didn't say that it IS a religion (or a philosophy). Someone tell me this wasn't intentional. We can expect Fox News and the New York Post to deliberately misrepresent issues in headlines. It's Murdoch's M.O.

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread tjpa
On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:06 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: As long as the readers don't care or demand quality, or pay for quality, it won't be there. Readers are voting with their feet by dropping paid sources with poor- quality for free sources with poor quality. The MBAs running newspapers today do

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The MBAs running newspapers today do not understand the value of their product and what they need to produce to make it worth paying for. So they cut the heart out of their newspapers and magazines and then blame the Internet for

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Tom, That seems overly broad. It only applies to some newspapers. As a long-term reader of newspapers, I cringe each time a good paper, such as the W Post or NY Times, loses an important feature or writer. Both papers seem to be run more from a journalistic perspective, than that of your evil

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
There is very little of modern music I like to listen too. It is all marketing from The music industry. My one son likes heavy metal (modern heavy) and I cant stand it. My other son listens to Michael Bublee (sic) My daughter likes to listen to Country (An area that is increasingly growing)

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread tjpa
On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Tom, That seems overly broad. It only applies to some newspapers. As a long-term reader of newspapers, I cringe each time a good paper, such as the W Post or NY Times, loses an important feature or writer. Both papers seem to be

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread tjpa
On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Clean up your act, get some real musical talent out and then see music sales jump. It's really that newfangled radio machine that is doing in the music business. They let you listen to music for free.

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 11 Nov 2009 to 12 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-1009)

2009-11-12 Thread MrMike6by9
Clean up your act, get some real musical talent out and then see music sales jump. It's really that newfangled radio machine that is doing in the music business. They let you listen to music for free. From the perspective of my musical taste, local radio doesn't play the stuff I like

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: It's really that newfangled radio machine that is doing in the music business. They let you listen to music for free. It is a lot more than that, Tom. For instance, discretionary spending. Video game and associated hardware sales

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread tjpa
On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:40 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: It is a lot more than that, Tom. For instance, discretionary spending. Good point. US consumer discretionary spending has been shrinking and their slice of the pie has been shrinking too as consumers are offered more appealing

Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?

2009-11-12 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Clean up your act, get some real musical talent out and then see music sales jump. It's really that newfangled radio machine that is doing in the music business. They let you listen to music for free.

Re: [CGUYS] ATT responds with our EDGE is good enough for you!

2009-11-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I love the island of misfit toys one. Stewart At 06:49 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote: Good point, instead of suing for telling the truth, ATT might want to build out their network a little. http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/

[CGUYS] ATT responds with our EDGE is good enough for you!

2009-11-12 Thread mike
Good point, instead of suing for telling the truth, ATT might want to build out their network a little. http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/12/atandt-responds-to-verizons-3g-ad-campaign-by-bragging-about-e/ Verizon certainly seems to be getting under ATT's

Re: [CGUYS] ATT responds with our EDGE is good enough for you!

2009-11-12 Thread tjpa
On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:49 PM, mike wrote: With both 3G and EDGE coverage, customers can access the Internet, send e-mail, surf the Web, stream music, download videos, send photos, text, talk and more. *The only difference – with some data applications, 3G is faster than EDGE.* Precisely.

Re: [CGUYS] ATT responds with our EDGE is good enough for you!

2009-11-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actual to read some of the reviews of ATTs network by Iphone users, they are fully aware of it, and are upset at ATT because of it. This seems to be one of the most oft cited negatives in reviews of the Iphone. Love the phone hate the network. Stewart At 07:28 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] ATT responds with our EDGE is good enough for you!

2009-11-12 Thread mike
Now to Tom, stating truth is underhanded. How often are you using your cell phone for net access, Tom? On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:49 PM, mike wrote: With both 3G and EDGE coverage, customers can access the Internet, send e-mail, surf the

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Meyer
Old topic, I know but I am cleaning out my folders. Basic and Fortran are very different animals from object oriented languages. Books on design patterns in those languages will really get you to understand why o-o is useful. C++ FAQ is a greatly educative and easier to read book. C# is pretty