Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
There are other aspects. How about news not reported on...or reported on in earnest for one president but not reported at all for another? Challenging ourselves is sometimes too hard. *shrug* To each his own. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
You brought it up. Don't if you don't want it discussed. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, mike wrote: The last few contests when linux, os x and windows were all on a level playing field, linux was the only one that took any 'work' to

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Tony B
Agree about the topic hijacking. Start a new thread people; it's as easy as changing the subject line. The problem with this ACID test is that it wasn't designed by the people that authored the #1 internet browser. If those people wrote the test, their browser would pass it with flying colors,

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I was mistaken when I called you catatonic, Mike. You are a moron. The Acid Test has absolutely nothing to do with security. You have lost all association with logic. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Why do you do this? READ the thread. Tom brought up security. You guys

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
No, that misses the point. That only allows the guilty to bury the evidence. The Acid test is only worth paying attention to because it is written a standards organization http://acid3.acidtests.org/, not by the authors of the software to be tested. The tests then measure standards defined by

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This is true of course.  But the NYT and WP...MSNBC in particular all represent a political viewpoint also. Not nearly to the same degree as in the case with the Washington Times. The NYT and the Washington Post quite often will

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
You are brilliant. Instead of double checking what I said, you call me names. In full is Tom's previous post in which you will notice if you are able to read, about MS and security. I have put it in bold and italics and added color to the important words, have someone read it to you noticing

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread mike
How serious are you? Are you trying to go pro or are you talking about just doing some home movies? I think either way a good solid choice would be a mac...but how serious you are matters as to how much money you will have to spend. There are windows alternatives, but out of the box I think a

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Good times, Steve. Sounds like with your reading list you are trying to build up a wall of BS from both sides. Although I don't think either one of those guys supports either political party here in the states. Interesting reading to be sure. I'm going light...Peter F. Hamilton for me. On

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread Tony B
Highly unlikely you need more than 4 gigs of ram to edit most video. What type of video is it? The desktop might work (again, what type of video?). Be sure to format the drives, or just replace them. You don't need special video cards to edit video. You may have to add a 1394 (firewire) card to

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread db
Very unlikely email browsing computers would be optimal for what you want. They are probably very inexpensive / minimal capabilities machines. Buy something appropriate from the Dell or Apple outlet and add your video cards etc.. I'm not the one to tell you the specs of that ... other to say

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:29 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Good times, Steve. Sounds like with your reading list you are trying to build up a wall of BS from both sides. Hey, that is only two on my list. I've got plenty of others from which to choose. Although I don't think either

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
If you care, study Beck a little more, the right does NOT like him and he doesn't support the republicans. The left likes to pretend he is right to play off on his wackoness as being mainstream right. He was going after bush the last few years of his admin and goes after obama. Equal

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread rleesimon
Did you just say tom is droppin' acid (again)? -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly Why do you do this? READ the thread. Tom brought up security. You guys are like broken records,

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Depends on the right you are talking about I guess. The in power republicans don't like Beck, he does have a following with the constitutionalists/smaller government types. The 'right' that follows Beck is not happy with the power players in the republican party, that's why I said that. As far

[CGUYS] the true power in washington

2009-12-03 Thread mike
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1916606,twilight-taping-arrest-movie-120209.articl Girl spent two nights in jail and could get 3 years for allegedly recording almost four minutes of a movie in a theater. I think we can all agree that if police bust an operation where 1000's of dvds are being

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Chris Dunford
-Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:14 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly I was mistaken when

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on the right you are talking about I guess.  The in power republicans don't like Beck, he does have a following with the constitutionalists/smaller government types.  The 'right' that follows Beck is not happy with the power

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread Steve at Verizon
Not any longer. GE sold majority interest to Comcast this week. See: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Comcast-to-buy-controlling-apf-1002116126.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=3asset=ccode= phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Now, is General Electric, the corporate giant and massive military/industrial complex

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Great...there was a headline on engadget saying 'hopefully comcast won't squash hulu like a bug' I have my doubts. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: Not any longer. GE sold majority interest to Comcast this week. See:

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Not any longer. GE sold majority interest to Comcast this week. Thanks for the info. I now recall having read of this as it was impending. However, GE or Comcast, my point remains the same. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:02 PM, mike wrote: I seem to remember a lot of us caring when enron was around the white house during bush, shouldn't we care when GE is doing the same? Did you see this in a vision (or more likely a hallucination)?

Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Great, this is how you started down your rat hole in the Acid room. No matter what I say I'm a liar even if I quote you exactly. I know better this time. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:02 PM, mike wrote: I seem to remember a lot of us caring

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: This is totally uncalled for. It was Tom who brought up security. Mike simply responded. Sigh, here we go again. I extracted an interesting quote from a link posted by Mike. Mike's link had nothing to do with ACID. I guess I should have

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:31 PM, mike wrote: I think either way a good solid choice would be a mac...but how serious you are matters as to how much money you will have to spend. When Mike and I agree, you know we must be right. Get a Mac Pro and use it as is. The smaller model, the Quad Core,

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
I should have never held that gun your head when you posted that excerpt..hey waitasecond...I never held a gun to your head! Maybe you should have posted an excerpt about IE loss of market share which could be tied to it's non standards compliance? I dunno, just a thought. The security thing

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Find out what she is doing first. Budget is a constraint to some, she don't need no mac pro if she's wanting to edit a home movie of her dog playing in the pool and an imac would do just fine. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 1:31 PM, mike wrote: I

[CGUYS] a twofer update

2009-12-03 Thread mike
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/03/mactracker_gets_apple_images/ Apple's App Store police have again exhibited a brush with common sense, and allowed another iPhone app to display previously forbidden images of Cupertino hardware. Check out the pics in the link...Apple wasn't going to allow

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Magic Mouse

2009-12-03 Thread b_s-wilk
Have you ever used a multi-touch device like the MacBook Pro/Air trackpad or iPhone/iTouch? They're wonderful. We survived without using 2- or 3-button mouse for years, and this is so much better. I could never use a PC mouse comfortably because they're so huge--hurts my hand. I don't like

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread b_s-wilk
Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com escribió: I need to build a machine that will enable me to edit video. I've been told I should have circa 16 gigs of RAM and two graphics cards. I also have an opportunity to pick up a desktop from a cyber cafe that's going out of business at a bargain

Re: [CGUYS] Hardware Reccomendations

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Agreed. The only reason you'd build this thing yourself is if you already knew what you were doing. This doesn't preclude getting/building a pc, but if editing video is what you want to do and not build a pc and test it etc etc...look at Betty's advice. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, b_s-wilk

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:31 AM, mike wrote: You are correct, he has been semi critical of apple at times, but not with the sheer and utter hatred he has with MS. He doesn't take cheap shots at Apple, make up claims, read WFB blogs that tell wild stories about apple and post them here as if

Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 7 Nov 2009 - Special issue (#2009-996)

2009-12-03 Thread mike
You see in others what exists in yourself and don't even know it. You search back a month to respond to this? In another thread you start a conversation and then blast me for responding. Dude..get a life. Remember, I'm the one that just offered advice in getting a mac. Computers are tools,