Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:45 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: The great classes are the ones that require you to buy the book the teacher wrote himself. I would have loved the Textbook that the lecturer was writing while lecturing Calculus. He tested his sections as part of the lectures and

Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS

2010-01-19 Thread b_s-wilk
I thinK this is a good time for some creative thinking about energy. As we change how we get and manage portable energy many old assumptions will need to be reexamined. If our cars start to run on big battery packs we need to consider how those get charged... The Peugeot 888 by Oskar

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: The great misnomer. Megapixels is not the whole equation. Say there Marshall, I was like totally and sardonically joking about the megapixel thing. Manufacturers copped onto the megapixel thing

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote: Shutter lag is a problem with my Nikon Coolpix.  But I bought it in 2001, so I can't complain too much.  I've had much fun with it over the years. Shutter lag can be compensated for in many instances by switching to

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Robert Carroll
phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote: Shutter lag is a problem with my Nikon Coolpix. But I bought it in 2001, so I can't complain too much. I've had much fun with it over the years. Shutter lag can be compensated for in

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread tjpa
On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I'm not taking pictures of fast moving objects. I'm just trying to take a picture of unposed people at a wedding or some other party or gathering. By the time the shutter fires, good expressions have gone to bad ones, and heads have turned

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com wrote Small point-and-shoot cameras, those the size of a deck of cards, do not have the ability to focus manually nor do they have aperture-priority mode. You are, at a minimum, mostly correct. There are a number of

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Yes indeed. I once took a Nikon Coolpix POS on vacation. The shutter lag was so bad that not only did people's expressions change, but they had walked completely out of the room. I had frame after frame of nothing. Are you sure that

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Fred Holmes
But manual focus, etc., is a matter of using menus to get to the function, and then using some control to run the lens motor that focuses the lens, etc. Not a quick process if you are trying to take extemporaneous photographs. My ideal camera would focus and zoom using old-fashioned

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Fred Holmes
What are they called? How does one determine if a particular camera is one of them. Spec sheets seem to be short on such information. Fred Holmes At 07:20 PM 1/19/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: You are, at a minimum, mostly correct. There are a number of other cameras, those that are in

Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS

2010-01-19 Thread Art Clemons
The Peugeot 888 by Oskar Johansen in the 2009 Peugeot Design Contest is a small electric car that converts from small and high to larger and low depending on whether it's in the city or suburbs. It has solar panels on the roof to recharge the batteries. Batteries are getting smaller while PV

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread tjpa
On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: Small point-and-shoot cameras, those the size of a deck of cards, do not have the ability to focus manually nor do they have aperture- priority mode. New camera type that some are calling EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens)

Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS

2010-01-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 08:36 PM 1/19/2010, Art Clemons wrote: The truth is that we need some method of rapid charging said batteries on the go. Ten minutes charging for let's say 200 minutes of driving would be reasonable presently (not much longer than filling up with gasoline), but we as a nation don't have the

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread mike
Good article, looks like some good choices for cameras...but for the GF1 for example you are looking at almost a grand again. Not exactly a good choice against a 200-500 dollar point and shoot no matter the advantages. Hopefully the prices will drop. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:30 PM, tjpa

Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS

2010-01-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
We have many problems that re not going to go away right away. Part of the reasons is that we have built infrastructures that are quite costly, and took time to develop. Most of the off the grid power generation methods developed up to today are stand alone. 20+ years ago one of my members

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Fred Holmes
But a single time measurement doesn't properly describe shutter lag, since the lag time includes the time for the camera to perform autofocus and declare itself ready. That varies with light level, scene contrast, and other factors. The multiple-photo time presumably includes the time

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread MrMike6by9
What are they called? How does one determine if a particular camera is one of them. Spec sheets seem to be short on such information. That's the reason it's a good idea to browse sites like DPReview (www.dpreview.com) and Steve's Digicam (www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews). They do

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread b_s-wilk
One of the real problems with today's point and shoot cameras is shutter lag -- the time delay between pushing the button and taking the picture... That used to be really annoying but can be mostly avoided if the compact camera has a sport setting. That takes a series of photos quickly like

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: But manual focus, etc., is a matter of using menus to get to the function, and then using some control to run the lens motor that focuses the lens, etc.  Not a quick process if you are trying to take extemporaneous

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:57 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: However, most of the best sports photos happen when the photographer starts shooting when a foot and head get really close together [or other likely collision] resulting in a lucky surprise action shot. Few action

Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...

2010-01-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Good action photographers are like good pitchers and good hitters. They have great reflexes, they know how to position themselves, and they anticipate action. I spent some time in college doing some photography for the year book. (loved dark room work.) Stewart At 10:23 PM 1/19/2010,

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have three. My dads old Exakta, my old Pentax ME Super, and my newer Minolta. My Pentax needs some work and those folks are hard to find. My sons got my dads Canon Stewart At 10:36 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote: Perhaps this is a moment to state that professional photographers remember - and

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread t.piwowar
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:19 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: As you point out, plodding through menus or trying to remember where functions are to be found within menus is a pain in the ass and also quite slow. Small cameras typically have a lot of stuff in menus because the tiny body of the camera

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:19 PM 1/19/2010, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: While I haven't actually tried it, I presume that manual focus is like manual zoom -- overshoot, overshoot, overshoot, or if there is a speed control on the motor, approach the setting very slowly. Manual focus can be achieved through, as

Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS

2010-01-19 Thread t.piwowar
On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Art Clemons wrote: The truth is that we need some method of rapid charging said batteries on the go. Ten minutes charging for let's say 200 minutes of driving would be reasonable presently (not much longer than filling up with gasoline), but we as a nation

Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag

2010-01-19 Thread Tony B
Excellent link! It shows my Panasonic as having a .45 second shutter lag. This is the same camera I just posted *has no shutter lag*. Why the discrepancy? As the article states, it's measuring the delay between pressing the shutter button and the camera recording the picture. It is NOT measuring