Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-27 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: OK after software they make the X-Box 360 which I think is still a money pit, their mice are good, key boards seemed ok, Zune hasn't set the world alight and they are out of the set top box market. What non- software does that

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
My question still stands if they are diversified out of software what the heck are they selling on the side? They are very diversified within software/media. They bought Great Plains for their accounting software division. They have the MSNBC TV network. They own an internet portal with a

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
El-cheapo is the reason M$ has any market-share. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Yes, but the middle ground appears to be named cheap. Consider the number of people with high levels of debt and then the shrinking number of jobs; personal computer buying appears to be at

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
The same people who complained that the iBooks were too small [and don't forget the eMate they hated] are lining up to buy the so-called netbooks that are an inch or two smaller, but with much worse specs. I suspect that most people who buy the netbooks get them because they're cheap, not

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-26 Thread mike
Another difference between mac users and seemingly others...or maybe it's just Tom. For most users it's not about ideaology, it's about what works. For some, like me, I love my ipod touch and have little to no use for a netbook. Others may have exactly what they want/need in that form factor.

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-26 Thread Jordan
mike wrote: For most users it's not about ideaology, it's about what works. You are describing Tom and Mac users in general * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-26 Thread mike
I await Tom's posting of Apple losing the lawsuit regarding patent infringement. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: mike wrote: For most users it's not about ideaology, it's about what works. You are describing Tom and Mac users in general

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-26 Thread Jeff Miles
This is one of the reasons I don't really get this netbook thing. I wouldn't want one. Of course I don't want an over priced phone either. I see the iphone as nothing more then an over priced toy. I love my Macs, but why would I buy one of those $600 things that you still need a monitor

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-26 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Apple of course is more diversified so it make profit from more sectors. AAPL more diversified? Did MSFT close down a large part of the company while I was not looking? This claim makes no sense at all. Someone who believes it

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I'm shocked. I thought it was in keeping with the pie in the sky we've been getting from you WFBs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-25 Thread b_s-wilk
iTouch/iPhone are fine machines, Tom, but they are emphatically NOT netbooks. Until you can show me someone typing a document at full speed into OpenOffice or an equivalent, I ain't buying that line for a second. My point is that a net book's keyboard is too small for serious typing. It is

[CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yes, but the middle ground appears to be named cheap. Consider the number of people with high levels of debt and then the shrinking number of jobs; personal computer buying appears to be at least 75% el-cheapo. And in the news... Microsoft profits sink 32 percent. Apple profits rise 15

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tony B
Perhaps this does need to be explained to you, though I doubt it. Apple's profit was not from computers; those sales actually fell. Translation: Not good news for you. MS's losses are indicative of the economy right now; very few companies reported profits. Translation: Not good news for you.

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yup they make more profit as they are a direct to market seller, and make profit on both the hardware and software. MS make profit only on software and only on PC's sold. Apple of course is more diversified so it make profit from more sectors. Good for them of course. Stewart At 11:30 AM

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats [Was: No netbook for you!

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Apple of course is more diversified so it make profit from more sectors. AAPL more diversified? Did MSFT close down a large part of the company while I was not looking? This claim makes no sense at all. Someone who believes it will believe anything. Or is this just another example of WFBs

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
Perhaps this does need to be explained to you, though I doubt it. Apple's profit was not from computers; those sales actually fell. Translation: Not good news for you. The iPhone iTouch are not computers? They run OS X. With all the current discussion of netbooks I'm surprised that you don't

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
The iPhone iTouch are not computers? They run OS X. With all the current discussion of netbooks I'm surprised that you don't recognize the ultimate net book. Or is being crappy a prerequisite for being a net book? No, but a keyboard sure is. And a screen big enough to read a word processing

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
iTouch/iPhone are fine machines, Tom, but they are emphatically NOT netbooks. Until you can show me someone typing a document at full speed into OpenOffice or an equivalent, I ain't buying that line for a second. My point is that a net book's keyboard is too small for serious typing. It is just

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
My point is that a net book's keyboard is too small for serious typing. It is just barely better than the iPhone/iTouch's version. Not better enough. You have a lot of real-life experience typing on netbooks? Or watching people who do? My son can type just as fast on his netbook as he can on a

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Tom Piwowar
To say that a reduced-size version of a real keyboard is barely better than a tiny touchscreen simulation of a keyboard is fantasy. I'll wait for Apple to do it right. http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/braintweet.html

Re: [CGUYS] APPL vs MSFT Stats

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Dunford
To say that a reduced-size version of a real keyboard is barely better than a tiny touchscreen simulation of a keyboard is fantasy. I'll wait for Apple to do it right. I'm shocked. Of course, in the meantime the rest of us are getting our work done with our crappy keyboard-based