On Apr 4, 2010, at 7:51 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
If all too many of us do not feel as I indicated, then how come we,
the people, continue to allow ourselves to be ripped off, decade after
decade after decade?
Because most of us lead busy lives and we can't hang onto an issue
with the
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:49 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
We did find out something to improve the over the air signal--a cheap $29
DVD recorder with an amazing tuner from Big Lots. Better than the two
converter boxes we tried, plus DVD! With a cheap home-made antenna,
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:01 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Because most of us lead busy lives and we can't hang onto an issue with the
tenacity of a corporation. Corporations can hire people to lobby full time.
We have to go to work, take care of the kids, go shopping, do the laundry,
Katan
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Quoting Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net:
It mainly is based on expected usage.
They expect you to use it more so you pay more for it.
My church office uses
phartz...@gmail.com escribió:
It was a long and arduous search that I had to undertake in order to
find a digital TV that had a highly sensitive tuner. I rely upon
over-the-air TV, and there is virtually no information whatsoever from
any TV maker regarding tuner specifications. I really do
On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:17 PM, David D Odell wrote:
Why? It's not like they have to keep refilling the line more often.
Hey! Be careful. With Verizon cutting back on new construction Eric
will soon be depending on management thinking annual refills are
essential.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:05 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Steve, did you find out additional useful tuner specs?
Absolutely none. Zero. Nada. Zilch. There are none readily
available for the end user. A tuner is the unwanted stepchild of the
television industry, required to be in
connected
country on earth, having a slower rate that GB? Or Germany's rate as slower
than that of the US? Average is only the partial story...
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
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Date
On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or
so that have varying degrees of service. Most of them have VOIP
available.
But isn't your area somewhere in the middle of the Okefenokee Swamp? I
don't think Eric and
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:17 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or so
that have varying degrees of service. Most of them have VOIP available.
But isn't your area somewhere
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
Less competition more regulation!
Today's Morning Edition had a report on broadband regulation...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125554738
Amid all the brouhaha about neocons battling to get the government off
our
: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
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Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in
Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an
account
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
You bet we need more regulation. And more competition. The two do not oppose
one another. When the oligarchs have us by the throats the only way to get
competition is via regulation.
I guess you know that only about half of the
Not even close.
Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.
Stewart
At 09:17 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote:
On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or
so that have varying degrees of service. Most of
WOW!
That is so absurdly expensive. The US is failing us. Broadband
monopolies better be regulated soon, otherwise we're going to sink lower
and lower.
In many places you can get 1Mbps for 1 euro. Here it's insanely higher,
and not available many places, especially nowhere like here.
Quoting t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com:
The corporations invented the idea that bandwidth was a scarce resource
to be sold to the public drop by drop. They started to throttle
services like BitTorrent and block services like Skype. Suddenly the
the wide open cables lost their ability to move our data
On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:49 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
In many places you can get 1Mbps for 1 euro. Here it's insanely
higher, and not available many places, especially nowhere like here.
Just keep repeating the neocon mantra: we are the USA, the best of all
possible countries. Love it or leave it.
On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:44 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess you know that only about half of the public in the United
States, and perhaps even less than that, agrees with you.
Stop reading those Fox News push polls.
On Apr 4, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.
What's the difference?
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At 06:08 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:
On Apr 4, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.
What's the difference?
It mainly is based on expected usage.
They expect you to use it more so you pay more for it.
My church office uses a 1.5 mps connection. We are not a heavy user
and do not rely on a super high speed connection for our work.
Now if I were a business that required a high speed connection tog
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Apr 4, 2010, at 11:44 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess you know that only about half of the public in the United
States, and perhaps even less than that, agrees with you.
Stop reading those Fox News push polls.
If all too
I am flummoxed. First they promote the over the air digital TV signal and make
you go out and get converters so you don't hafta buy a new TV ...then you
find out you only get 2 channels where you live (I have a 30' tower with
uhf/vhf antenna 1h road south of Philadelphia ...no mountains here).
Quoting Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net:
It mainly is based on expected usage.
They expect you to use it more so you pay more for it.
My church office uses a 1.5 mps connection. We are not a heavy user
and do not rely on a super high speed connection for our work.
Now if I were
I am flummoxed. First they promote the over the air digital TV signal and make
you go out and get converters so you don't hafta buy a new TV ...then you
find out you only get 2 channels where you live (I have a 30' tower with
uhf/vhf antenna 1h road south of Philadelphia ...no mountains here).
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html
The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule
resulting in no
Less competition more regulation!
Stewart
At 09:48 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html
The real
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html
Interesting factoid: Unless I missed someone, South Korea is the fastest in the
world
South Korea is pretty high tech.
I think many of the LCD panels are made there.
Stewart
At 10:26 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its
population by the size of the country. However, it is highly
concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90
miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution.
On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
I think many of the LCD panels are made there.
But of course, it is LCD that make their broadband so fast. Why did I
not think of that? America needs more LSD right away!
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its
population by the size of the country. However, it is highly
concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90
miles of the US border. Also see this map
The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again.
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting
in no national broadband policy.
Absolutely.
My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border.
The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than
what is offered in the lower half of the province.
The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it
gets. Leave any of the population dense sites
, not FIOS.
Michael
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Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:32:14 PM
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On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:
Technically Canada has a low population density when
, April 3, 2010 1:32:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its
population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated.
Over three quarters of its
First you must live in a Rogers Cable served area.
Stewart
At 12:51 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable
Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed.
And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops
] Broadband Speeds Map
Absolutely.
My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border.
The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than what is
offered in the lower half of the province.
The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it gets.
Leave any
On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote:
The day must end in Y, Tom is blaming the neomicrosofticons again.
And the neomicrosofticons continue to insist that our slow connections
are just fine and that any news of better service in other countries
must be some statistical aberration. The
For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we
have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?
A variety of reasons. The real question is how you define broadband.
The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that
anything over 768 kBPS
On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading. The FCC says that
anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as broadband. Nothing in that says
anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar
too low).
So things in the USA are really
In municipalities we are well served by high speed Net access.
It is when you get on the fringes of these municipalities and into
the suburban areas that there is a stark difference.
There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or
so that have varying degrees of service.
So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would
indicate. You are not making us feel better.
Farthest thing from my mind (to not make you feel better).
I'm saying that the data used to create that map is insufficiently
granular, that's all. I wouldn't be privy to the
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable Systems in
Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. And there is an account
type that is one higher than that which tops out at 50. Mind you it doesn't;t
come cheap but there it is.
How much does Rogers Cable
Right now it cold be Canadian or US. They are almost on par.
Stewart
At 10:44 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable
Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed.
And there is an account type that is one higher than that
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