TPiwowar
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home
t.piwowar
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player
in the mobile device market. Way too much competition coming
down the pike.
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen
for the competitors it is
On Aug 9, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
Now it looks like places have switched WRT the phone markets. In
the desktop/laptop markets, MS had most of the headaches. In the
phone markets, it now looks like Apple has that role (the hack from
BlackHat with SMS messages taking over
How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
It's not a theory that OS X is as susceptible to viruses and trojans as
windows, it's proven. It's only holdout MFBs that have a hard time with
truth.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:49 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Wayne
If you check the Wild List you will see that there are 100s of
active, circulating viruses that can attack Windows and we have to
add anti-virus software to watch for them.
Tom likes this metric because it says what he wants it to say. It has no
real meaning, but oo, is it scary sounding.
On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:01 PM, mike wrote:
How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
How often do I see anyone using WINCE?
You kind or reinforce my point.
I didn't expect you guys would go for a scientific test. You just
prattle on.
Just forget about that bothersome second part I listed...much easier if you
just cover your eyes and ears and drone to yourself.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:33 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:01 PM, mike wrote:
How often do you hear about viruses on winmo?
How often do
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
I maintain that within 5 years, the iPhone will be a bit player in the
mobile device market. Way too much competition coming down the pike.
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be
This is Tom saying 'no I can't, I'm just blowing it out my ass as usual'.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:57 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why
it is vastly inferior for me?
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the
reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks.
You birthers are all the same. M$ has published the specs. Do you
really think touching one is going to release some magical electro-
magnetic flux that will make me fall madly
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The
competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its
early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple
appears to be its own worst
Jeff Wright wrote:
With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for
the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The
competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its
early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple
appears to be
This discussion is pretty much pure speculation but:
The iPhone wasn't just first, it was about a generation and a half
ahead. Given Apple's history of innovation it's more likely that they
will innovate again than drop from popularity.
You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that came with
version 2 of the OS.
From:mike
More in reference to the iphone. Most of these references are in the middle
of reviews of phones such as the palm or the hero coming out in the US soon.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:10 AM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become,
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day
I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app.
And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that
On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Palm, Sony, IBM, Apple, Xerox, etc. Being first isn't first is no
guarantee
of being the last man standing. All of these companies were
innovative, all
had a dominant lock on their market and all were soon surpassed by
competitors with better
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote:
That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of
phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms
without really wanting one.
I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use
one.
Me too, but it is
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
You'll notice that first was in quotes in my post. Very few
companies are literally first, but they were the first with a
successful and popular implementation of their product.
In quotes splitting hairs.
I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry
bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic
stories for you to quote. Proving nothing.
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Often, all the time in fact. Right now. I'm lying right now.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote:
I haven't read anything about how aged the iPod has become, can
you point me to one of those blogs? On the other
It's nice to know you've already decided to not believe any reviews of the
product, makes it so you won't have to read any...not that you would, or
even touch the device once it is out. This makes life so easy on you I
imagine..no actual thought needed. Fits your MO.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Birther.
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On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's vastly inferior.
Birther.
Yes, apparently you are.
We ask birthers for their reasoning, and we get none, just statements of fact
with no supporting evidence. Precisely what you're doing right
TPiwowar wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote:
That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones.
I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really
wanting one.
I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one.
Me too,
Yes, but Apple wasn't first in either the music player or smart phone
markets. Both markets were considered to be fairly stable and
buttoned down until Apple came along and churned them up again.
Remember this review of the first iPod: No wireless. Less space than
a nomad. Lame.? Of course it
Any examples would be appreciated. Google didn't really help
me. I suppose I should try Bing, in light of recent stories that it
is slanting its searches to be anti-Apple, but I'd like to know
some examples of what it is that you are reading.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:58 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L
But consider the case Mike made for the Zune, a few posts back.
If it was cited in an advertisement, it would read something like:
Mike says: 'superior processor' . 'interface is at worst just fine'.
'what is there to complain about except lateness issue?' (Exact
quotes, and I tried to not
Gimme a day or two..I'm not trying to avoid it, I've just looked at probably
50 youtube video reviews of iphone/pre/htc touch/htc diamond and a few
others along with reading about 50 blogs and review sites from the little
known to engadget about all the previously listed phones. All I meant to
This sounds too much like the children's argument,
I know you are, but what am I?. Rather than waiting for the
No you are from Tom, and a No YOU are back from
you, I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead
of going around in circles like this, or let it drop.
Of course, that
An you have the temerity to accuse me of having a reality distortion
field? Your beloved M$ is moving in a clockwise direction in the
Southern Hemisphere, and in a counterclockwise direction in the
Northern Hemisphere.
Yes, I do, and it's at full power right now.
Name one instance where MS
These views were from the hardcore of the
gadget world, not pc mag or such mainstream review sites.
Oops. I'm sure you meant M$ lackeys, not PC Mag.
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I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead
of going around in circles like this, or let it drop.
I made a point. I asked for his reasons why Zune HD is vastly inferior. Three
times. A pretty reasonable request, I thought. He responds, Birther. WTF?
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
The basic theme that I got from it was, At the very worst it
matches iPod Touch, which you like, so what's your real beef?
When did Apple introduce the iPod Touch that you are comparing the as
yet unreleased Zune HD to?
Reviewers are
It's easy...yer a birther..a pinhead, a neocon drone. You lack any skills
of perception, you listen to rush, to hannity and oreilly. You aren't worth
commenting on, the question itself lacks merit because YOU do.
Nevermind he can't back up a thing he says and that's why the name calling
starts.
On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Name one instance where MS was first with something. I'll wait.
Does it have to be legal?
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All those damn HDTV vendors! LIARS! They sell their so called HDTV's with
NO content and NO way to play HD unless you freakin BUY a blu ray player or
purchase sat/cable HD. What liars!
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford
Want to talk about lairs?
Went to my cable providers website this week.
Saw an ad advertising 10mps cable Internet service for 39.95.
I called up their chat feature to see about getting this service for
39.95 and was told I could not have it at that price it would cost me
54.95 a month.
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To
display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also
sold separately).
There's an app for that.
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It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right
that I should've let Mike speak
Reviewers are already commenting that HD is false advertising. To
display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also
sold separately). So typically M$ to launch a new product with a lie.
Sort of like an HD video player. I've heard you need a TV for those too.
Still no list of
I wasn't giving a review of the unit when I said that. My point was that
the worst that could be said about it is, that it's just fine. My point
being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an
abortion. Anyone with an open mind and common sense could see the interface
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry bloggers and
writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic stories for you to
quote. Proving nothing.
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com:
It's nice to know
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered
Actually, most of the reviews I've read really
It is interesting that in your mind interface is at worst just fine
translates into matches iPod touch. To me though, it says that
the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great,
which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right
that I should've let Mike
On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:19 PM, mike wrote:
My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune
interface is an
abortion.
Except that Tom did not say that. Otherwise you are fine.
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Chris,
The original link (from Tom), starts by summing up and linking
to the CNET review. The CNET review also starts off with I'll admit
right off the bat that I've been a pretty big fan of the Zune.
I would say that the real question is Can the Zune HD catch up with
the iPod Touch
And his answer was no.
He freely admits it will never catch up to the Touch.
I think most everyone will agree Apple got a grand slam homer with
the touch. But that does not mean others are not playing ball and
doing well. Just not as well.
Stewart
At 07:27 AM 8/7/2009, you wrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
I think most everyone will agree Apple got a grand slam homer with
the touch. But that does not mean others are not playing ball and
doing well. Just not as well.
The Zune HD is targeted at WFBs who will gladly part with their
The Zune HD is targeted at WFBs who will gladly part with their money
to buy a vastly inferior product for the sole reason of it not being
an iPod.
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the reasons why it
is vastly inferior for me? Thanks.
It can be fairly said MS was late to the party to be sure, but come they
have and ready to roll. The zune's audio processor is considered to be
superior to the ipods, it's interface is at worst just fine. What is there
to complain about except the lateness issue?
There is talk on the blogs
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
Since you have never seen or touched one, can you list all the
reasons why it is vastly inferior for me? Thanks.
You birthers are all the same. M$ has published the specs. Do you
really think touching one is going to release some magical
On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:02 PM, mike wrote:
It can be fairly said MS was late to the party to be sure, but...
What is there
to complain about except the lateness issue?
I'm sure that when M$ slaps their logo on a Victrolla you will be
praising it as a fantastic green machine that produces
Zune HD Sounds Like a Winner - If it Had Been Announced in August 2007
http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilecontenttoday/hardware/
zune_hd_sounds_like_a_winner_if_it_had_been_announced_in_august_2007_123
532.asp
Captures M$ in a nutshell.
Zune HD Sounds Like a Winner - If it Had Been Announced in August 2007
http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilecontenttoday/hardware/
zune_hd_sounds_like_a_winner_if_it_had_been_announced_in_august_2007_123
532.asp
Captures M$ in a nutshell.
CNET disagrees.
Zune HD hands-on look, impressions,
Zune HD Sounds Like a Winner - If it Had Been Announced in August 2007
http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilecontenttoday/hardware/
zune_hd_sounds_like_a_winner_if_it_had_been_announced_in_august_2007_123
532.asp
An iPod snob waving his hanky and sniffing at the riff-raff.
Oh yeah, savage.
Speaking of, MS is apparently zune-ifying windows mobile. It can't be any
worse then the current os, I've seen a few vids online of the new OS, it
looks nice. Basically the home screen is like zune's and the internal
screens are larger so you can toss the damn stylus and use that one your
were
Zune HD Sounds Like a Winner - If it Had Been Announced in August 2007
http://www.mediabistro.com/mobilecontenttoday/hardware/
zune_hd_sounds_like_a_winner_if_it_had_been_announced_in_august_2007_123
532.asp
Captures M$ in a nutshell.
CNET disagrees.
Zune HD hands-on look,
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