Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:25 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: USB, being a PC technology picked up by Apple during its dark days, is technically a mess. One can have no reasonable expectation about what can and can't be successfully powered. I carry a portable drive with me that works fine

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-23 Thread mike
USB was never intended to connect devices of such power, it's not in the spec. It's not the fault of the designers it's being used in areas it should not be used in. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:25 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:47 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: My first gen

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-23 Thread Tony B
Actually, Western Digital now sells a whole line of 2.5 external USB drives that don't even come with a power supply. No modern computer should have trouble running one of these from a USB port. Or at worst from a powered hub. Watch out though. A client sent in a couple of these for us to copy

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-23 Thread Fred Holmes
At 10:25 PM 9/22/2009, t.piwowar wrote: USB, being a PC technology picked up by Apple during its dark days, is technically a mess. One can have no reasonable expectation about what can and can't be successfully powered. I carry a portable drive with me that works fine with FireWire. To

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-23 Thread Fred Holmes
At 03:49 AM 9/23/2009, Tony B wrote: Watch out though. A client sent in a couple of these for us to copy video files to, and we found they came out of the box formatted to FAT32! I had to do a backup and file conversion when I eventually figured out why transfers were erroring out with a false

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-23 Thread Tony B
According to WD's website, their newer drives are coming with NTFS. Presumably just a reflection that they're no longer greatly concerned about Win9x systems. I don't really care if they put a filesystem on the drives or not. What bothered me was that there was no huge warning anywhere. Instead,

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread Fred Jones
Thanks to everyone that replied to my message. I decided to go ahead and buy a powered USB hub to see if it would work for what I had in mind. I bought a Belkin Lighted USB Hub and *it did work* without the power connected. I used the hub with three devices connected at the same time - a

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Fred Jones fredjone...@softhome.netwrote: Thanks to everyone that replied to my message. I decided to go ahead and buy a powered USB hub to see if it would work for what I had in mind. I bought a Belkin Lighted USB Hub and *it did work* without the power

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread MrMike6by9
Some of the Mac Books had USB ports that were more powered than others.  I don't remember which ports but if you have trouble with one port try one on the other side. My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on the left. The port on the left is close to the mag safe power

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread t.piwowar
On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:47 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on the left. The port on the left is close to the mag safe power plug but only the port on the right can power my USB hard drive that I use for backups and my iTunes collection. I use the

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-22 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That's a surprise I use a couple of external portable harddrives that only require one port. Oh yeah I am using a PC so maybe that is why. Stewart At 09:25 PM 9/22/2009, you wrote: On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:47 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: My first gen MBP has a free USB port on the right side and on

[CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Fred Jones
Hi Guys - I would appreciate some info. I was wondering if a USB hub that comes with an AC adapter would work without the adapter? I was wanting a NON-powered USB hub for use with a laptop, but I was thinking if the powered hub would work both ways then it would be better to buy a powered

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Typically the power adapter is to provide the electrical power some USB devices need to run. Some memory sticks need the power to operate but printers and other devices such as that do not. A Mouse might need power, especially if it is wired. You can buy laptop hubs for relatively cheap

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Tony B
I don't know, as I've always plugged mine in. USB ports really don't give much power on their own, laptop ports even less. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Fred Jones fredjone...@softhome.net wrote: Hi Guys - I would appreciate some info. I was wondering if a USB hub that comes with an AC

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Correction a mouse might need power especially if it is NOT wired! Stewart At 10:45 AM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Typically the power adapter is to provide the electrical power some USB devices need to run. Some memory sticks need the power to operate but printers and other devices such as that

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Fred, The way I understand is that it depends on the device. Some devices need extra power, for those you will need to plug the hub in. Others devices, like my printer, can be plugged into a non powered hub and work fine. I would say get a powered hub and only plug it in when you

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread Constance Warner
When I tried to make a USB hub with a power supply work WITHOUT the power supply--it wouldn't. Period. As we all know, computers are weird, devices are built to different factory specs, and almost anything is possible in the wonderful world of electronics. However, I would never buy a

Re: [CGUYS] USB hub question

2009-09-21 Thread John DeCarlo
Constance, I think you are violating list policy by actually answering the OP's question. That has been my experience, too. Perhaps because my powered USB hub has lights to indicate which ports are in use. Perhaps not. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: