On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:29 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
It's not simply labor and materials. There's RD, design,
production, salaries, benefits, advertising, marketing,
transportation, wholesale/retail, online/stores, support, feedback--
and profits. The real cost isn't just the physical phone, like
Who are you talking about?
On Nov 14, 2009 7:57 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:29 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: It's not simply labor and
materials. There's RD, d...
PC vendors don't do RD. Intel provides them with designs and M$ provides
the OS.
Verizon Doubles Early Termination Fee and More
Thursday November 12, @04:27PM
If you buy a smartphone through Verizon, be prepared for an increase in
the early termination fee. Verizon is doubling the phone-subsidy to
$350. What's more, Verizon also actively charges customers for
accidental
Verizon will not sell a smartphone without a Data package.
That is what led me away from Smartphones.
I did not use data packages with a smartphone.
I recently upgraded my phone plan to have unlimited data plan.
So no extra charges.
Very often this is explained (or is supposed to be) to the
b_s-wilk wrote:
Verizon Doubles Early Termination Fee and More
Thursday November 12, @04:27PM
If you buy a smartphone through Verizon, be prepared for an increase
in the early termination fee. Verizon is doubling the phone-subsidy to
$350. What's more, Verizon also actively charges customers
Does anyone know the real cost of these smart phones? I realize dev costs
are in the initial price, but when phones have been out for some time like
the iPhone, costs are extremely low. Consider also that a lot of these
phones come out in europe first so many times the money has already been
Retails on these go from $499 (low end) to $699 (middle high end) on
many of the ones I have seen.
Of course that is not the real cost of these things.
So when you pay $199 or even $99 on one of these babies you are not
paying retail pricing you are getting a subsidized phone.
Very often we
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:38 PM, mike wrote:
Does anyone know the real cost of these smart phones? I realize dev
costs
are in the initial price, but when phones have been out for some
time like
the iPhone, costs are extremely low.
Apple will sell you a phone without a contract so that tells
Retail is retail. Apples price is their retail. What does the
market bear and who buys an Iphone at retail?
The tear down sites tell you their estimate! It is very difficult to
get an actual cost basis as there are a lot of fungibles involved.
I just read an article that gave the cost
Everyone knows the retail price, I'm asking actual cost.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:38 PM, mike wrote:
Does anyone know the real cost of these smart phones? I realize dev costs
are in the initial price, but when phones have been out
My old phone had the hiccups and accidentally sent 40+ text messages to the first person in my phone book. After I called her to apologize, I called T-Mobile. They said it looked like a mistake and deleted charges for those messages. Would Verizon, ATT or Sprint give credit for a mistake?
This
LTE is only being built out by VZ from what I've read. 20-30 markets by
2010, ATT is a no go on LTE. I've heard rumors that Tmobile is further a
long then some believe and may be introducing killer prices and speed around
Q1 2010.
As far as cost goes, I don't think I've been clear. I know what
On Nov 13, 2009, at 1:33 PM, mike wrote:
Everyone knows the retail price, I'm asking actual cost.
Oh, there he goes again!
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LTE is only being built out by VZ from what I've read. 20-30 markets by
2010, ATT is a no go on LTE. I've heard rumors that Tmobile is further a
long then some believe and may be introducing killer prices and speed around
Q1 2010.
Verizon is not the only one. T-Mobile was first with LTE, with
I give up.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
It's not simply labor and materials. There's RD, design, production,
salaries, benefits, advertising, marketing, transportation,
wholesale/retail, online/stores, support, feedback--and profits. The real
cost isn't
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