Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-30 Thread Jeff Wright
Yes, that is what I am saying. Malware uses the existing rights of the user to do its deed. Running as an admin, gives malware admin rights to the machine and thus, no limitations. Running as a lower-permission user denies malware the rights it needs to install and propagate itself. Non-honorwa

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-29 Thread Stephen Meskin
Andy, Thanks for the reference but the article is about a test on Vista, not Windows XP SP2. Steve Andy Gallant wrote: fyi (ymmv) - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136205/article.html Stephen Meskin wrote: Does anyone have experience comparing these two? I have used Spybot for a couple o

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-29 Thread Stephen Meskin
Jeff, I'm sorry but I don't understand your message. Are you saying that not running as admin stops certain spyware? What is "non-honor" spyware? What stops "honor" software? Steve Jeff Wright wrote: Don't run as an admin, if you can. That stops 99% of non-honor system spyware attacks.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff Wright
Don't run as an admin, if you can. That stops 99% of non-honor system spyware attacks. > -Original Message- > Use both. Spyware filters work better with several being used. > Windows Defender seems to work and is pretty trouble free.

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Mike Sloane
My biggest complaint about MS Windows Defender is that it is a resource hog. Unless you have gobs of RAM, it is going to slow things down. I also use a variety of spyware filters, including one called "SuperAntispareware" that seems very good. I have not been infected in many, many years. Mi

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Use both. Spyware filters work better with several being used. Windows Defender seems to work and is pretty trouble free. I typically run Spybot Search and Destroy, Lavasoft's Ad aware, MS's Defender, Stopzilla and Eeye's Blink. They all catch different things and don't seem to interfere with e

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Andy Gallant
fyi (ymmv) - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136205/article.html Stephen Meskin wrote: Does anyone have experience comparing these two? I have used Spybot for a couple of years I also go thru a router and use Firefox, Thunderbird and AVG with Windows XP Firewall off and have had no problem

[CGUYS] Windows Defender vs SpyBot Search & Destroy

2007-08-28 Thread Stephen Meskin
Does anyone have experience comparing these two? I have used Spybot for a couple of years I also go thru a router and use Firefox, Thunderbird and AVG with Windows XP Firewall off and have had no problem yet. My wife heard that Defender was very good, she goes thru the same router, uses Firefo