Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-20 Thread mike
Action Show but I think the products > veered toward network scale. > > Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org > > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [CGUYS] Speaking of

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Meyer
t; Subject: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone > Alarm > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:51 PM > I've been looking around for a free firewall program > that will allow the > importation of blocklists...any

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-11 Thread Fred Holmes
Well, I did use Karen Kenworthy's whois utility which reported "No database entry for 208.69.32.13." Is there a generic way to check whois? I'll try http://www.whois.com. OK, I've done that. The only dialog I find, which is "well hidden", accepts domain names, but not IP addresses. OK, now

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-11 Thread Chris Dunford
> >When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, > it > >reported a different IP address than either of the two (primary and > >secondary) that we are supposed to use for OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 and > >208.67.220.220). Rather, it reported 208.69.32.13. Is there some > sor

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
>When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, it >reported a different IP address than either of the two (primary and >secondary) that we are supposed to use for OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 and >208.67.220.220). Rather, it reported 208.69.32.13. Is there some sort of >"a

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Richard P.
I've got ZA set to "ASK" before allowing Windows Updates to connect, but apparently with the ZA/KB951748 conflict, ZA just defaulted to blocking without bothering to ask. It did inform me that it had been blocked but I didn't know how to unblock it, seeing as it was already set to "ASK". FYI,

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Richard P.
I stand corrected. Yes, Doxpara reported back on a different IP address as well (*208.69.32.17*). I jumped to conclusions without checking. Thanks for the education. Richard P. When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, it reported a different IP address than eith

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
At this point I would just set the router to send every thing through opendns and be done with it. Comcast may get around to fixing it soonish but why wait on them? They seem to be several steps behind. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 PM, MrMike6by9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't know about

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Chris Dunford
> If you Google "Windows hosts file" you get lots of information. Dunno > if it really works. It does. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and m

Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:51 PM 7/9/2008, mike wrote: >I've been looking around for a free firewall program that will allow the >importation of blocklists...any suggestions appreciated, running vista >64bit. > >Mike I'm not sure about "importation," but blocklists are generally supported by 1) routers, 2) "parental

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Fred Holmes
When you ran the Doxpara test, what IP address did it report? For me, it reported a different IP address than either of the two (primary and secondary) that we are supposed to use for OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220). Rather, it reported 208.69.32.13. Is there some sort of "address

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-10 Thread Fred Holmes
You won't get a prompt unless you have things set to "ask" instead of "block". If you think "block" is always correct, make the setting so. But if there may be time when it's not appropriate, set it to "ask". Do some exploring of the settings available in Zone Alarm. Don't just accept the de

[CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread mike
I've been looking around for a free firewall program that will allow the importation of blocklists...any suggestions appreciated, running vista 64bit. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, priv

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread mike
http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/download_firewall.html I've got a friend using that, well liked. It got very positive reviews from pc mag and cnet...not sure if that matters to you. It's also got full vista 32/64 bit support. And it's free. Mike On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM, MrMike6

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread MrMike6by9
I didn't know about the issue but first suspected the MS security patch as the culprit since the MBP in the living room was still on line through same wireless router connection to Comcast after the XP box had been updated and restarted. I chose to roll back the patch and wait for a fix as I'm also

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
The only indication which pointed me in the direction of Zone Alarm were two warnings from ZA which displayed that it had blocked Windows Update, as well as Mozilla's Firefox. There was no place in ZA (that I know of), to confirm this and/or to unblock this move. I never got a prompt which aske

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
I also have Cox as my Internet provider, but use OpenDNS, which checks out as OK using Doxpara.com. Apparently, they've done their homework. Chalk up another one up for open source. Richard P. Larry wrote: But according to this article on the Washington Post's website, even applying the patch

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
This is good to know, thanks. My thinking is that the patch, while not complete, is better than no patch; as is the Windows firewall. Thanks also for the Kaminsky tip. Richard P. But according to this article on the Washington Post's website, even applying the patch won't, in and of itself, p

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Sacks
oit the DNS vulnerability." Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P. Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:17 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm That's precisely what I

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
That's precisely what I've done as my workaround. Richard P. While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some other, more complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. I don't normally su

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Richard P. > While that would work, it is advised that doing so would > leave a security hole. There are some other, more > complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If > this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. I don't normally suggest this(*), but why not just use the firewall that

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Fred Holmes
Can you explain in more detail what this means? I have nothing in the "Programs" dialog of the Zone Alarm firewall set to "block" (with a couple of exceptions). I have almost everything set to "ask." (And I have only a couple of things set to "allow.") So won't the Zone Alarm firewall ask wh

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Sacks
puter Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P. Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:53 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some other, more complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. Richard P. How about uninstalling the update, disabling automatic updates and then not

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Sacks
: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm My Internet provider suggested: * Calling Zone Alarm, which she also said would be impossible, given the amount of calls they were handling today * a system restore, which I declined until it becomes absolutely

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
Zone Alarm has issued this "fix" which is currently being hotly debated in the ZA forum: http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html Workaround to Sudden Loss of Internet Access Problem *Date Published* : 8 July 2008 *Date Last Revised* : 9 July 20

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
My Internet provider suggested: * Calling Zone Alarm, which she also said would be impossible, given the amount of calls they were handling today * a system restore, which I declined until it becomes absolutely necessary My short term solution was to uncheck Zone Alarm from runni

Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread db
Thanks for the warning. If you become aware of a fix, please let us know. Thanks. db Richard P. wrote: The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in

[CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-09 Thread Richard P.
The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. Richard P.